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robbie_B
19/09/2010, 7:49 PM
News of the World

KEANO SHOULD KNOW ABOUT 'PUKE FOOTBALL'
I brought in vomit to prove I was really sick

WALTERS: Left Ipswich under a cloud

By Garry Doyle, 18/09/2010

JON WALTERS has every reason to be sick and tired of Roy Keane.

After a year in the Corkman's company, he went from being star pupil and Ipswich Town captain to club outcast.

Pigeon-holed as a troublemaker, when the opposite was the case, Walters' fall-out with Keane had shades of Saipan - only in reverse.

This time the hunted was the hunter. Keane, the accuser, reckoned his former Irish Under-21 international Walters was pulling a fast one in the hope of getting a move away from the club.

Instead, Walters was being a model pro, to the extent where he even took a picture of his VOMIT to prove he wasn't faking illness the night before a League Cup match at Exeter.

Walters said: "Roy annoyed me because he made me out to be a bad egg which is not what I am all about.

"What happened was this. At the start of pre-season, I was aware of interest from a couple of Premier League teams.

"So Roy pulled me into his office and said: 'How are you?' I said: 'My head's not the best but I'm okay.' We talked about things and I said if an offer is right for the club and yourself, I would like to take it.

"He was completely fine with me and said I could have a couple of weeks to think about it and if I still felt the same way then I could move on.

"But within two weeks, we spoke again. Nothing had changed. No realistic offers had come in. That was it. 'Fair enough,' I said. 'You know me. I am not going to be a bad egg around the place. I'll train, give everything and just get on with it. I am not the type of person who sulks.'

"And he agreed. So I carried on as normal, captained the side in the first game of the season against Middlesbrough and if there was any doubt I was messing about, you would have seen it during that match.

"But I gave 100 per cent. Then three days later, it all kicked off. We had Exeter away and all during the week everybody in my family had a vomiting bug. So I quarantined myself from the wife and kids to try and avoid it.

"But at 3am on the Tuesday morning I was throwing up. I even took a picture of my sick and sent it to the physio because I knew Roy wouldn't believe me, what with it being a cup tie, clubs being interested in me and all that sort of thing.

"So I got the physio and doctor to smell my breath the next morning just after I'd been sick again.

"The next day I trained, even though I'd been wiped out. Then I got a text on Thursday night saying 'have you seen the papers?'. Roy had a pop at me, basically saying certain players were throwing one in.

"A day later, he brought me into the office, said I was going to be playing but I didn't deserve to be captain because of my behaviour. Things got animated and he came out and told the papers my reaction was unbelievably overboard.

"But I still thought I would play even though I knew I wouldn't be captain."

Instead, he was dropped and then told his days at Ipswich were over.

Walters said: "Keane suggested I had my head turned by every Tom, Putz and Harry.

"But I hadn't moaned or told him I wanted to leave. I had trained well. It was disappointing it got made out that I had stamped my foot down when that simply wasn't the case."

If only Walters' issues with Irish managers started and ended with Keane.

Instead, he has a little history, having been the recipient of another piece of old-school behaviour from Don Givens, his former Irish Under-21 manager.

Having scored twice on his debut in a 2-0 away win in Switzerland, Walters never played for Ireland again, missing one game with injury, another with a tooth abscess and a third though mismanagement.

KEANE: Ipswich Town manager

Walters said: "It was the end of season. My team-mates were all away to Marbella on a booze-up to celebrate winning promotion.

"Rather than go there, I went to Lanzarote with my wife and was having a quiet one, going religiously to the gym every day.

"And then Don rang me. He must have got the international dialling tone because he asked where I was. I explained to him what I was doing and he said: 'It doesn't sound like you are committed to Ireland. I'm leaving you out.' I haven't heard from Ireland since."

Perhaps that will change under Giovanni Trapattoni, who has a habit of plucking guys from the fringes and making them regulars in his side.

Certainly, Walters doesn't want to hang around much longer. With his 27th birthday arriving this Tuesday, he realises he is no spring chicken and representing the land of his mother, Helen Brady, would be an honour on two levels.

"Mum passed away when I was 12," said Walters. "And when I played that time for the Under-21s, I couldn't stop thinking about her. Loads of family travelled to Switzerland to watch that game and after it, they were saying, 'you know Jonathan, your mum would be proud today'.

"So I'd love to do it again on a personal as much as a professional level. Since I was a kid, I've holidayed in the caravan park just outside Carlingford with all my cousins and now I'm going back there with my two daughters to keep the generation game going."

The next time he hopes to be back on Irish soil is next month when Ireland meet Russia.

And who knows? Perhaps a shaven head, passionate midfielder is just what Trap needs. If you can't have Roy Keane, why not go for the bloke who fell out with him?

rebelmusic
19/09/2010, 8:28 PM
Interesting alright, and typical Givens like....christ how that man has hurt us!! Taking a pic of your puke is a bit weird though to say the least...surely he'd get a doc out and get a sick note?

SkStu
19/09/2010, 9:18 PM
Keane is some mentaller in fairness. Ipswich should, by right, be his last managerial job since he has such a hard time managing.

Noelys Guitar
19/09/2010, 9:39 PM
Keane is some mentaller in fairness. Ipswich should, by right, be his last managerial job since he has such a hard time managing.

Second in the table with Ipswich so not doing too badly. And he tends to annoy a lot of people associated with football who deserved to be annoyed (and this is not a go at you StSku). I find some of his managerial decisions bizarre such as going public in his spats with players (Givens like). But I would not count him out as becoming a top manager yet.

rebelmusic
19/09/2010, 9:48 PM
Will have to wait and see how the season goes but if he keeps them going noone can deny he's a decent championship manager anyway. I just hate the "He'll never play for this club again while i'm manager" crap. He's done with a few players and it's just cringeworthy. He should settle that kind of stuff behind closed doors and keep his mouth shut.

SkStu
19/09/2010, 9:49 PM
Second in the table with Ipswich so not doing too badly. And he tends to annoy a lot of people associated with football who deserved to be annoyed (and this is not a go at you StSku). I find some of his managerial decisions bizarre such as going public in his spats with players (Givens like). But I would not count him out as becoming a top manager yet.

no, you're right, i do deserve to be annoyed...! He is just so alienating in terms of his teams/squads. He hasnt learnt how and when to stay quiet on divisive issues and that is a major fault which in my opinion will lead to him becoming unemployable..

Sullivinho
19/09/2010, 9:51 PM
Roy's an inflexible character to say the least. When your first reaction to hurling your guts up is to create photographic evidence for Keano...you'd best be getting directions to Stoke!


Interesting alright, and typical Givens like....christ how that man has hurt us!!

I for one, always have my story straight and affairs in order. You never know when Don will call and you damn well better be prepared.

rebelmusic
19/09/2010, 9:52 PM
I for one, always have my story straight and affairs in order. You never know when Don will call and you damn well better be prepared.

Hahahaha does make him sound quite nazi-ish alright.

dr_peepee
20/09/2010, 9:05 AM
Taking a pic of your puke is a bit weird though to say the least...surely he'd get a doc out and get a sick note?

Yeah!! He doth protest too much, methinks!!

dr_peepee
20/09/2010, 9:13 AM
Second in the table with Ipswich so not doing too badly. And he tends to annoy a lot of people associated with football who deserved to be annoyed (and this is not a go at you StSku). I find some of his managerial decisions bizarre such as going public in his spats with players (Givens like). But I would not count him out as becoming a top manager yet.

True.. He knows his football, but he's a strange fish. He's not a people person. I reckon that's why his scouting is so poor. I doubt he trusts people enough. He needs a good cop as his right hand man. Something like the way Redknapp had Jim Smith years ago..

geysir
20/09/2010, 10:31 AM
I wouldn't get too excited about a NOTW article. Quoted dialogue has a way of getting trimmed and moved around.

seanfhear
21/09/2010, 6:37 PM
I am going to go out on a limb here and say that Roy Keane is a header.;)

Sometimes headers can be useful though !. Not too sure about having them as football managers though !

AlaskaFox
02/10/2010, 3:13 PM
First league goal for Stoke today.

tricky_colour
02/10/2010, 4:10 PM
Kenwyne Jones's flick on was touched on by Matt Etherington and Walters raced clear to chip over Robinson for the opener.

tetsujin1979
06/10/2010, 9:37 AM
from today's Independent: http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/euro-2012-diary-2366380.html

Walters call on cards
ONE of the problem areas in the Ireland squad is the lack of striking cover for Robbie Keane and Kevin Doyle, and next month's friendly with Norway should give Stoke new boy Jonathan Walters a chance to audition for the role.
Marco Tardelli was at the Britannia Stadium on Saturday to watch Walters -- a recent purchase from Ipswich -- score the only goal in their Premier League win over Blackburn. Capped at U-21 level and 'B' level, Liverpool-born Walters is likely to make a positive impression on Trapattoni given his no-nonsense approach to the game.
Tardelli hinted that the 27-year-old can expect a call-up.


Can we get this thread added to the international player's thread sticky?

dr_peepee
06/10/2010, 9:58 AM
I'm bleeding dyin' to see this squad for the Norway Freindly!!!

geysir
06/10/2010, 10:07 AM
I wonder what did Tardelli do, that the reporter interpreted as a hint in the right direction of Walters?

tetsujin1979
06/10/2010, 10:08 AM
I'm bleeding dyin' to see this squad for the Norway Freindly!!!
potential call ups for it include


James McCarthy
Jonathan Walters
Ciaran Clark
Hogan Ephraim
Stephen Ward
Connor Sammon (although I seriously doubt it)


and the possible returns of Stephen Hunt and Anthony Stokes

Razors left peg
06/10/2010, 11:37 AM
potential call ups for it include


James McCarthy
Jonathan Walters
Ciaran Clark
Hogan Ephraim
Stephen Ward
Connor Sammon (although I seriously doubt it)


and the possible returns of Stephen Hunt and Anthony Stokes

lets hope so. Would be nice to see Duffy gettin called in for the get together too

SwanVsDalton
06/10/2010, 12:29 PM
potential call ups for it include


James McCarthy
Jonathan Walters
Ciaran Clark
Hogan Ephraim
Stephen Ward
Connor Sammon (although I seriously doubt it)


and the possible returns of Stephen Hunt and Anthony Stokes

:eek: Really? I know he scored against Celtic, but didn't hear he had suddenly transformed into a contender...

tetsujin1979
06/10/2010, 12:33 PM
:eek: Really? I know he scored against Celtic, but didn't hear he had suddenly transformed into a contender...
don't take that list as anything official, it's just my opinion. Sammon's on a good scoring run at the moment, and if Stokes deserves a place for scoring 4 times this season, why doesn't Sammon for scoring 6 (ok, 3 were against Airdrie), or even Adam Rooney for scoring 6?

SwanVsDalton
06/10/2010, 12:59 PM
Fair enough, I didn't know he'd scored six goals it's a good return. Though I'd imagine Sammon would still have to prove it at a higher level (in Scotland or elsewhere) before being in with a chance.

dr_peepee
06/10/2010, 1:06 PM
potential call ups for it include

[list]
James McCarthy (Andrews due to fitness??)
Jonathan Walters (Cillian Sheridan??)
Ciaran Clark (O'Dea?)
Hogan Ephraim (Keogh??)
Stephen Ward (Cunningham??)
Stephen Hunt (Treacy??)
Anthony Stokes (Shane Long??)

At who's expense is also interesting, bearing in mind Wilson and Coleman were added to the current squad?? I don't think he'll bring in Stokes or Ephram... With the exception of Hunt, any and none of the others highlighted in bold are likely knowing Trapp!!!

geysir
06/10/2010, 1:51 PM
Looks like Tet's list has gathered momentum and become more official.

TrapAPony
06/10/2010, 1:56 PM
Looks like Tet's list has gathered momentum and become more official.

...bar Sammon and Rooney.

AlaskaFox
06/10/2010, 2:36 PM
Fair enough, I didn't know he'd scored six goals it's a good return. Though I'd imagine Sammon would still have to prove it at a higher level (in Scotland or elsewhere) before being in with a chance.

He does play in the highest league in Scotland. Surely that's up there with playing for Cardiff or Reading up front.

SwanVsDalton
06/10/2010, 3:30 PM
He does play in the highest league in Scotland. Surely that's up there with playing for Cardiff or Reading up front.

The defences Cardiff and Reading come up against are far meaner than those in Scotland's Premier Division imo (with obvious exceptions).

Stuttgart88
06/10/2010, 3:39 PM
if Stokes deserves a place for scoring 4 times this season, why doesn't Sammon for scoring 6 (ok, 3 were against Airdrie), or even Adam Rooney for scoring 6?Because a subjective assessment might be that Stokes is a better player, and because Stokes is proven at SPL level over a prolonged period?

Razors left peg
06/10/2010, 3:43 PM
Well Cillian Sheridan got a call up without scoring regularly in any league so Sammon cant be ruled out

tetsujin1979
06/10/2010, 3:44 PM
Because a subjective assessment might be that Stokes is a better player, and because Stokes is proven at SPL level over a prolonged period?
think I'm going to have to edit the original post, I don't think Sammon or Rooney will be called up, just that they're form in recent weeks means they're possibilities

Stuttgart88
06/10/2010, 3:50 PM
gotcha

geysir
06/10/2010, 4:14 PM
possibilities, but not for the official list yet.

bwagner
06/10/2010, 4:48 PM
My wish list for the Norway game :O)

Walters
Wilson
Mc Carthy
Boyce
Maguire
Clark
Ephraim
Meyler
Coleman
Tracey
:O)

TrapAPony
06/10/2010, 4:52 PM
My wish list for the Norway game :O)

Walters
Wilson
Mc Carthy
Boyce
Maguire
Clark
Ephraim
Meyler
Coleman
Tracey
:O)

Agree with that for Norway. Would like to see O'Hara added in time for the Celtic Cup.....maybe even Naughton and Noble too.

Razors left peg
06/10/2010, 5:01 PM
My wish list for the Norway game :O)

Walters
Wilson
Mc Carthy
Boyce
Maguire
Clark
Ephraim
Meyler
Coleman
Tracey
:O)

Is Meyler now gonna be out for most of the season?

bwagner
06/10/2010, 5:02 PM
I think Naughton will join us if he is approached, I would like to see Simon Cox ( i know he is going through a bad patch but I have a good feeling about him )

rebelmusic
06/10/2010, 5:03 PM
Is Meyler now gonna be out for most of the season?

Talk was he'd be back in November. Fantasy football is saying expected back in October. So could possibly make the friendlies

Razors left peg
06/10/2010, 5:09 PM
fingers crossed

SwanVsDalton
06/10/2010, 7:04 PM
Would be nice for Naughton to declare but do we need him? Would he get in the squad? Can't see him usurping O'Shea, Foley, Kelly and Coleman. Unless he can operate on the left too.

Personally I'd like to see Walters, Ward, Wilson, McCarthy, Coleman and Clark with match-time for all if possible. Can't see Trap loading the decks with loads of new personnel though.

rebelmusic
06/10/2010, 7:31 PM
Based on previous friendlies i'd say the most he'll blood will be 3. I'm seeing Wilson, McCarthy and probably Coleman. He'll defo try a new striker too which could be stokes or walters. Would be interesting to see walters/stokes at the same time.

Charlie Darwin
06/10/2010, 8:38 PM
I wonder what did Tardelli do, that the reporter interpreted as a hint in the right direction of Walters?
He winked and turned his head a few times.

Connor Sammon is not going to be called up.

Sullivinho
06/10/2010, 9:14 PM
I wonder what did Tardelli do, that the reporter interpreted as a hint in the right direction of Walters?

From the Examiner: Marco Tardelli added that he'd been impressed by Jonathan Walter's match-winning performance for Stoke against Blackburn on saturday and that the in-form striker would likely feature in the squad for Ireland's friendly game against Norway next month."

No direct quote from Tardelli but he must have said something favorable.

Stuttgart88
07/10/2010, 6:59 AM
Examiner must have made it up. Trap and Tardelli don't even know he's Irish.

joema
07/10/2010, 1:31 PM
Just like they didn't know Paul Green was Irish?

Come on! You're a good poster. Thought you'd be smarter than that.

Charlie Darwin
07/10/2010, 1:35 PM
I think you may have fallen into the trap.

Supreme feet
07/10/2010, 1:37 PM
I think Stutts was being a tad sarcastic to be fair. It's a dig at all the over-the-top criticism on here of Trap's scouting.

elroy
07/10/2010, 2:11 PM
My wish list for the Norway game :O)

Walters
Wilson
Mc Carthy
Boyce
Maguire
Clark
Ephraim
Meyler
Coleman
Tracey
:O)

Dont think it would be wise to bring so many young lads all in at once. Always good to have the experienced lads around, even for preparation for friendly games.

I think McCarthy, Wilson, Coleman, Walters and Tracey all should be in, the rest I think are a bit off the mark just yet. Have we another friendly in February (oh no wait just realised the nations cup is on, better than any friendly). May be a decent way to blood in the younger lads.

joema
07/10/2010, 9:11 PM
Hook, line and sinker. :(

I'm normally much sharper than that. Haven't been on this forum in a while...that is my only "excuse"

rebelmusic
10/10/2010, 9:22 AM
Defo confirmed now

The 71-year-old confirmed he is looking at bringing in Stoke striker Jonathan Walters for next month's friendly against Norway in Dublin.
"They (Russia) had three, four, five strikers," continued Trapattoni. "We have Keane and Doyle. We look every Sunday for another striker. Maybe in November we will bring in Walters from Stoke."

ifk101
10/10/2010, 10:17 AM
Don't see the point of bringing Walters in. He's just another donkey journeyman that doesn't have the guile to play international football. Don't we have enough of them already?