Shane Duffy D Norwich b.1992

[the bear]

mccleans ears will be *****ed for news on coleman after this announcement

ha ha the censor got the better of me there

[johnnyc]

Great news. Big vote of confidence, especially as Wilson and Clark can both play at cb albeit in a somewhat makeshift capacity.

[Predator]

"Duffy took a big strop after this game [Italy friendly aged 16/17] by all accounts. Moped about the hotel and whinged until they got back to Belfast.

Better off without him"

Our friend Sam Gamble isn't content with being a poor journalist, so he's taken to creating outright lies over on OWC. Talk about defamation of character...
I'd love to hear his proof and these accounts that he was privy to.

There is always a reference to the millions of years they spent in their youth set up, as if they'd been nurtured from childhood. Duffy played 5 times for their U17s, 4 for their U19s and 3 times for their U21s as well as once for their B team, in the space of about 1 year an a half and all before the age of 18.

[Sullivinho]

Aye, better off without any lad who moped and whinged a bit when they were teenagers Sam. Who says you need eleven players to win a game anyway.

[Predator]

It's nothing but pure OWC propaganda, to use geysir's terminology, I strongly doubt the veracity of his claims. I suppose they have to do something to make themselves feel better about losing a highly rated player to the nasty FAI.

One guy even opines that every time he's seen Duffy, he's been "out of his depth".

[Predator]

Aye, better off without any lad who moped and whinged a bit when they were teenagers Sam. Who says you need eleven players to win a game anyway.It could be worse, he could be moping and whinging about "hate speech" on an internet forum. :)

[BonnieShels]

It's nothing but pure OWC propaganda, to use geysir's terminology, I strongly doubt the veracity of his claims. I suppose they have to do something to make themselves feel better about losing a highly rated player to the nasty FAI.

One guy even opines that every time he's seen Duffy, he's been "out of his depth".

Isn't the general rule to doubt the veracity of any claims made over on OWC?

[Predator]

Isn't the general rule to doubt the veracity of any claims made over on OWC?You are right. Contriving falsehoods is commonplace in that corner of the internet.

[Charlie Darwin]

Does anybody care if he did whinge after the Italy game? He was 17, Jesus. Teenagers aren't typically known for their stoicism in the face of disappointment.

[ifk101]

Our friend Sam Gamble isn't content with being a poor journalist, so he's taken to creating outright lies over on OWC. Talk about defamation of character...
I'd love to hear his proof and these accounts that he was privy to.

Mostly likely is true. After all weren't we all a bit stroppy that day, not just our Shane? We gave away a soft goal in Bulgaria after taking the lead. A lost opportunity and ultimately proved costly for our hopes of topping the group.

[Olé Olé]

Maybe Sam is trying to convey the notion that Duffy was so passionate about making his debut for his beloved Northern Ireland that he became irate and frustrated when the opportunity didn't present itself?

[Predator]

Interview on evertontv here: http://www.evertonfc.com/evertontv/home/6931

Talks about breaking into the team and his call up.

[tricky_colour]

ha ha the censor got the better of me there

did you say c0cked or pr1ck*ed?

Also why would McClean be wanting to hear news about Coleman?

[the bear]

the second one didnt even think of the censor

[Charlie Darwin]

Video of Duffy singing 'Build Me Up Buttercup' by the Foundations, courtesy of James McClean, at his first senior squad meet-up.


http://yfrog.com/0qs8pz

[tetsujin1979]

the crowd have to sing that if he comes on tomorrow!

[Predator]

That's a brilliant idea, ha! Apparently McClean sang Wild Rover. Shane "Buttercup" Duffy and James "The Wild Rover" McClean.

[Sullivinho]

Shane Duffy: singer, defender and gravity defier extraordinaire!

[DannyInvincible]

Shane Duffy interviewed by Dominic Kearney: http://www.derryjournal.com/sport/it-s-a-funny-old-game-shane-1-3831133

[Charlie Darwin]

My God, he spent an hour waiting for him and all got was three sentences?

[Predator]

Poor piece, really. Rambles on about topics that he hasn't got a clue about. Lots of "I think..." - he's uncertain of his facts and he's got Duffy's debut wrong (debut was against AEK Athens in Greece).
The piece is more about the author than it is about Shane Duffy. And this man is getting paid to write for the Journal?

[Charlie Darwin]

I doubt he got paid.

[Colbert Report]

Poor piece, really. Rambles on about topics that he hasn't got a clue about. Lots of "I think..." - he's uncertain of his facts and he's got Duffy's debut wrong (debut was against AEK Athens in Greece).
The piece is more about the author than it is about Shane Duffy. And this man is getting paid to write for the Journal?


Shane Duffy in action on his Everton home debut

[Predator]

Shane Duffy in action on his Everton home debut
Aware that the photo says that.

Dominic's text, however, says this: "Shane Duffy made his debut in the Everton first team against Bate Borisov in the Europa Cup a few seasons back."

No "home debut". He's got it wrong.

[Irwin3]

Aware that the photo says that.

Dominic's text, however, says this: "Shane Duffy made his debut in the Everton first team against Bate Borisov in the Europa Cup a few seasons back."

No "home debut". He's got it wrong.

It is his 'full debut' though since he started the game and played 90 mins. Agree that the sentence could do with this qualifier though.

[IsMiseSean]

Signed a new 3 year contract today.
https://twitter.com/ShaneDuffy34/status/245873732764188673

[DannyInvincible]

"'Duffy's a great lad and he's going to be a good centre-back' - Everton defender Phil Jagielka": http://www.goal.com/en-ie/news/3942/ireland/2012/09/19/3387398/duffys-a-great-lad-and-hes-going-to-be-a-good-centre-back#


Everton defender Phil Jagielka has praised his team-mate Shane Duffy after the 20-year-old tied up a three-year deal with the Toffees.

England international Jagielka said that the Republic of Ireland under-21 international was among the team's best players when he made his Premier League debut in January against Tottenham Hostpur and that the new contract will help to 'settle him down'.

"Duffy's a great lad and he's going to be a good centre-back," Jagielka told evertonfc.com. "He obviously went out on loan and did really well and then we got a few injuries at the back and a few people weren't sure whether he'd be able to step up and handle it.

"But, fair play to him, I think he was up there amongst our best players in most of the games he played in."

Duffy has made just one appearance for the Goodison Park club this season, coming on as a substitute during the side's 5-1 Capital One Cup victory over Leyton Orient and Jagielka believes that he can continue to learn from the other defenders in the squad.

"It's nice for him to get a new contract and I think it will settle him down again. And the longer he stays around the squad hopefully learns from the rest of the defenders and the rest of the team.

"Hopefully that will turn him into a better player," concluded Jagielka.

[Predator]

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2012/10/07/duffy-out-to-clip-canaries-wings

Interview on Everton's website. Talks about being on the fringes of the first team and such.

[gastric]

Burnley interested in taking Duffy on loan according to The Sun.

[DannyInvincible]

Duffy went on loan to Burnley last season for a 28-day period with the option of an extension. He played the full 90 minutes in one game but they didn't extend the loan. Hopefully, he'll see more first-team action this time around if the loan deal goes through.

[the bear]

Must of made some impression if they're coming back in for him. I though he looked good in his cameos for Everton last year.

[DannyInvincible]

Must of made some impression if they're coming back in for him.

That's what confuses me. Why didn't they hold on to him for longer than the initial 28-day period if he made a good impression? If he made a bad impression, why are they coming back for him?

[Predator]

That's what confuses me. Why didn't they hold on to him for longer than the initial 28-day period if he made a good impression? If he made a bad impression, why are they coming back for him?I don't think that 28-day spell was the most enjoyable for Duffy and I don't think Everton were happy about it either, since he could equally have sat on their bench for that time. Can't see it happening.

[the bear]

Weird one alright. He needs to start getting games under his belt at this stage of his career

[Predator]

Weird one alright. He needs to start getting games under his belt at this stage of his careerI suppose he does. But Moyes doesn't want to let him out on loan and said as much.
From September:
"We might look at sending Shane Duffy out on loan but we have to field a team in the new Under 21 league. It looks like everyone is taking that a little bit more seriously and we'd like to be as strong as we can be. "We'd like to see the players come on but Ross [Barkley], and maybe Shane, are in a different situation.
"My idea is to keep Shane here. He went out to Scunthorpe on loan last season and came back and played a couple of games - I thought it made a big difference.
"He had confidence and he understood playing on a Saturday was serious, meaning an awful lot to supporters and managers."


From that interview above, Duffy said:

"I played nearly every game in pre-season and I feel like I am getting better, getting more mature and I am enjoying football at the minute."

"The manager reminds me that there are not many 20-year-old centre backs playing in the Premier League and that I have got to be patient, which I am.

"I am just enjoying being at this club to be honest and it is a dream to even be near the first team. So I am just being patient, working hard every day in training and hopefully I will get in the team some day"

[the bear]

Heitinga started at CB last week and was hooked at half time. hopefully Duffy can start getting more game time. Very good club to be at. If Duffy and Coleman develop into regular strters in Everton back 4 it will bear very well for the future of the Irish defense

[seanfhear]

Heitinga started at CB last week and was hooked at half time. hopefully Duffy can start getting more game time. Very good club to be at. If Duffy and Coleman develop into regular strters in Everton back 4 it will bear very well for the future of the Irish defenseHeitinga always appears to me to be too small for a centre back especially fro the premier league.

[Charlie Darwin]

He's also a headcase. He's much more suited to the more cultured Lee Cattermole role.

[DannyInvincible]

Duffy is on the bench today for Everton at Reading.

[TrapAPony]

Finally brought on today albeit in the last minute

[DannyInvincible]

'Moyes: Duffy ready for Everton first team': http://www.goal.com/en-ie/news/3942/ireland/2013/01/21/3689129/moyes-duffy-ready-for-everton-first-team


Everton manager David Moyes has said that he would have 'no problems' about putting Shane Duffy in the first team.

The Toffees boss is currently in the transfer market in search of a centre back, but admitted that 21-year-old Republic of Ireland under-21 international Duffy was ready to step into the team when required.

Duffy, who signed a new contract in 2012, has had loan spells with Burnley and Scunthorpe United, and has made just two appearances for Everton this season.

"We've got young Shane Duffy who's doing well and we think he's ready to certainly go on loan but because of our numbers we can’t do it," Moyes told reporters ahead of his side's clash with Southampton.

"I'd have no problems putting him in the first team either. He's looking OK just now he really is."

Moyes also expressed the belief that it is difficult to play a young centre back in the modern game, considering the demands that are made and says that it is a position that requires experience.

"It's actually harder to play a young centre back than it is a young goalkeeper these days," he added. "Centre backs are really hard to put in and when you get the young ones in sometimes they're not quite ready."

"I think the requirements on them are different. They’re sometimes the ones who start the game; they have to be able to read the game depending on the way the opposition plays, whether it’s with one up and one off.

"It’s a position that nearly carries an ‘experience required’ tag with it," said the Everton coach.

[paul_oshea]

David Moyes says Duffy is not yet good enough for the first team.

[tricky_colour]

So we can assume he wont start tonight (which he won't) Coleman starts but not but no Gibson.

[tricky_colour]

I'd agree with Moyes though it like the foundation of the team in a way.

[geysir]

Moyes is saying that Duffy is good enough but not experienced enough, yet.

[tetsujin1979]

damned with faint praise there
he's good enough, but he's not good enough

[Charlie Darwin]

He's saying he's good enough but he doesn't have the experience of those ahead of him, experience he would gain by going on loan. So while he does have the talent, he isn't good enough yet to overhaul the likes of Jagielka and Distin. Which is fair enough.

[geysir]

That's what I said Charlie:)

And Moyes isn't going to let go out on loan to get the experience because they need him as back up, because ...... he's good enough.

[paul_oshea]

I was going to qualify it, but I don't think it matters, if you are good enough you play, because by being good enough you most likely have the experience to be good enough.

"He's saying he's good enough but ......he isn't good enough" :D

He isn't going to let him go on loan because they are threadbare, if he buys someone who is good enough then he will let him out on loan.

You don't have to decipher any hidden text or subtext geysir. Its pretty simple. But feel free to argue over the semantics as you see fit, as I know you will :D

David Moyes is saying that Duffy is not good enough for the first team.

[Charlie Darwin]

No. He's saying he's good enough for the first team, but Jagielka, Distin and Heitinga are even better.