View Full Version : Keane Walks Out On Sunderland
OwlsFan
04/12/2008, 10:48 AM
Do the lads on loan have any future there? How about Reid, Miller and Murphy who in truth was a Keane favourite.
Oh and David Connolly. I keep forgetting he still exists.
Well, other than Murphy, Millar and Reid who'd get a few minutes each, it obviously should help them since they can't do any worse.
True to form. Cant wait to see who he blames.
joeSoap
04/12/2008, 10:53 AM
he's gone alright (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_4587582,00.html)
Pauro 76
04/12/2008, 10:55 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/sunderland/7764671.stm
Looks like it happened. Should we be surrpised?
EAFC_rdfl
04/12/2008, 10:55 AM
gift (http://audiostore.todayfm.com/audio/breakfast/Gift_ifiwasntroy.mp3)
top notch stuff, 'alright there'
Drumcondra 69er
04/12/2008, 11:01 AM
Shown up as the spoofer he is. First hint of trouble and he sulks and then walks, sound familiar? The next Brian Robson.
as_i_say
04/12/2008, 11:03 AM
From a casual observer point I think the players had lost confidence in him. Didnt seem to matter whether you had a stormer one week, you could be dropped for weeks after and the cycle continues. Giving out about the players more than other managers and buying complete donkeys didnt help either. He's given out more player loans in the last few months than my local bank.
lopez
04/12/2008, 11:06 AM
Shown up as the spoofer he is. First hint of trouble and he sulks and then walks, sound familiar? The next Brian Robson.Can we have this thread operating without opening up old 'Civil War' wounds? ;)
First one to mention the 'S' word gets a one week ban. :D
elroy
04/12/2008, 11:07 AM
Shown up as the spoofer he is. First hint of trouble and he sulks and then walks, sound familiar? The next Brian Robson.
hardly a spoofer considering what he did in the two previous seasons. He has had trouble with Sunderland before now. Having said that his team selections in the last few weeks have been baffling, the team hasnt been settled in weeks. Although I doubt Sunderland will get a manager who will do much better than Keane has.
Closed Account
04/12/2008, 11:07 AM
First one to mention the 'S' word gets a one week ban. :D
Stephen Ireland.
sorry, i'll do something constructive during the ban.
drummerboy
04/12/2008, 11:08 AM
Bad, erratic manager who was an impulse buyer. Quinn has to take some of the blame for giving him too much money to squander. Reckon that the end of Roy as a manager until Trap finishes his contract and Keane will be dragged out again by his legions of devotees.
Reckon there may be a few Sunderland season tickets going for a song over the XMAS.
Drumcondra 69er
04/12/2008, 11:08 AM
Can we have this thread operating without opening up old 'Civil War' wounds? ;)
First one to mention the 'S' word gets a one week ban. :D
:D Fair enough! He is a spoofer though and has been found out.
OwlsFan
04/12/2008, 11:11 AM
gift (http://audiostore.todayfm.com/audio/breakfast/Gift_ifiwasntroy.mp3)
top notch stuff, 'alright there'
I love the Mick Mc piece in it - they do him so well.
Dr. Ogba
04/12/2008, 11:19 AM
i hear he's taking the Bulgaria job...
seanfhear
04/12/2008, 11:20 AM
At least if he has realised that he is not up to the job maybe Sunderland will have time to get their act together as save themselves from relegation.
Owen Coyle if its not a little too soon and if he could be tempted away from Burnley(might not be that hard unfortunately for Burnley)
Owen cut his teeth at lower league level in Scotland and ironically perhaps Sunderland was too big a job for Keane without previous experience.
jbyrne
04/12/2008, 11:22 AM
Shown up as the spoofer he is. First hint of trouble and he sulks and then walks, sound familiar? The next Brian Robson.
he was in trouble last season yet saw it through and they stayed up so your comment is nonsense. he took them over when thay were near the bottom of the championship and steered them to a very impressive league win and promotion. how many other sunderland managers have managed promotion and kept them up the following season?
elroy
04/12/2008, 11:25 AM
Owen Coyle if its not a little too soon and if he could be tempted away from Burnley(might not be that hard unfortunately for Burnley)
Owen cut his teeth at lower league level in Scotland and ironically perhaps Sunderland was too big a job for Keane without previous experience.
Not a bad shout actually. Im sure the likes of Allardyce, Curbishley will be favourite.
How about the Blackburn job, Ince is under alot of pressure there. Only down the road for Keano?!?
lionelhutz
04/12/2008, 11:28 AM
he was in trouble last season yet saw it through and they stayed up so your comment is nonsense. he took them over when thay were near the bottom of the championship and steered them to a very impressive league win and promotion. how many other sunderland managers have managed promotion and kept them up the following season?
How many other managers were given the amount of money to spend that he was?
geysir
04/12/2008, 11:28 AM
He indulged in a bit too much shopping therapy at Woolworths, afterwards complaining that the goods were faulty, also complained that there was no remote control in the package.
Meanwhile other managers who shopped at similar stores were able to repair any faults and embarrassed him. But Roy still persisted in complaining about the faulty goods.
He did provide a retirement home of sorts for our veteran players but then he would chuck them out in the middle of winter.
Do the lads on loan have any future there?.
The Irish fans? ;)
Drumcondra 69er
04/12/2008, 11:32 AM
he was in trouble last season yet saw it through and they stayed up so your comment is nonsense. he took them over when thay were near the bottom of the championship and steered them to a very impressive league win and promotion. how many other sunderland managers have managed promotion and kept them up the following season?
How many other Sunderland managers have had a budget comparable with the top clubs in Europe? £80m in 2 seasons and about £10 spent in the Championship. To even be troubled with relegation after spending £50m last year showed he wasn't up to it. Got lucky with Andy Reid hitting form after he bought him last season, would've gone down otherwise.
jbyrne
04/12/2008, 11:33 AM
How many other managers were given the amount of money to spend that he was?
he wasnt given that much in the first season. the amount he spent is all relative to the transfer market at the time. he did spend a lot and a lot of the signings were very dubious but no half decent player is even remotely interested in going there
seanfhear
04/12/2008, 11:39 AM
Not a bad shout actually. Im sure the likes of Allardyce, Curbishley will be favourite.
How about the Blackburn job, Ince is under alot of pressure there. Only down the road for Keano?!?
Hopefully it wont be Allardyce or Curbishley and of the young managers about Owen Coyle looks one of the brightest prospects(and I am not saying that just because he has played for Ireland)
Probably next season would be better for him(a little more experience)but if a big club makes an offer it has to be taken.That kind of a chance does not come around too often.
Hopefully the Sunderland board will have the courage to go for the upcoming manager.
smasher
04/12/2008, 11:40 AM
Keane is consistent. When the going gets tough he walks away. He will try to leave the impression that it was because he did'nt get funds that he resigned. Nothing could be further from the truth. He wasted millions after millions on players that no one else wanted. Quinn indulged him as did the money men. But even that bunch o' wallies realised they were wasting money recklessly.
People say that he brought Sunderland up from the bottom. OK , LETS LOOK AT THAT. When he arrived he was handed loads of money to get them up the table. Anybody who knew anything about the game could have done the job, given the amount of cash that was available .
Let,s get real here.
This guy walked when he could'nt face up to it in Saipan and now he's done it again.
End of story!
seanfhear
04/12/2008, 11:42 AM
How many other Sunderland managers have had a budget comparable with the top clubs in Europe? £80m in 2 seasons and about £10 spent in the Championship. To even be troubled with relegation after spending £50m last year showed he wasn't up to it. Got lucky with Andy Reid hitting form after he bought him last season, would've gone down otherwise.
Pretty accurate assesment of Keanes time at Sunderland.
The blinded Keano supporters have got to take the blinkers off on this one.
Roy could not walk on water afterall.
Having said that it is a pity to lose an Irish manager in the premiership.
Drumcondra 69er
04/12/2008, 11:43 AM
he wasnt given that much in the first season. the amount he spent is all relative to the transfer market at the time. he did spend a lot and a lot of the signings were very dubious but no half decent player is even remotely interested in going there
Incorect, Keane had a bigger budget then anyone bar Birmingham that season (who sold Heskey, Pennant and then Upson to generate it) and had a higher net spend then anyone in that league. He was also able to offer lower level Premier league wages to attract the likes of Connolly, Miller, Kavanagh etc back down to the Championship.
The excuses being trotted out by those still blinkered for his failure are embarrassing at this stage. Is Sunderland any less attractive as a destination for a player then Wigan for example? Or Hull for that matter?
how many other sunderland managers have managed promotion and kept them up the following season?
How many of them were given 70 million to keep them up.
Crosby87
04/12/2008, 11:44 AM
He is only 37? Thats amazing. He looks 47.
OwlsFan
04/12/2008, 11:44 AM
I thought this thread was about what this means for the Irish players at Sunderland. Otherwise it should be moved elsewhere since it is irrelevant to the Irish team thread. Oui ?
Maroon 7
04/12/2008, 11:45 AM
Wonder will he come back into management at all? It won't be easy to find as sweet a deal as he had at Sunderland and the finanacial backing he received there. Can't exactly see him going down the divisions to take over at Macclesfield or the like.
seanfhear
04/12/2008, 11:45 AM
The Irish fans? ;)
good one:D
holidaysong
04/12/2008, 11:52 AM
Been watching Sky Sports News for the last hour. Loads of emails coming in from angry Ireland and Sunderland 'fans' - one guy said this was the second time Keane had stabbed Irish fans in the back.. :o
Funny stuff.
Drumcondra 69er
04/12/2008, 11:53 AM
In response to the original question posed, he hasn't been playing many of the Irish lads regulalrly so it won't do them much harm. All depends who the new boss will be....
bennocelt
04/12/2008, 11:55 AM
I'm gutted - Cant believe he walked away from this - what a ****:mad:
As some one else said - 70 million
Look at Hull, look at Boro, look at Stoke, look at the job Kinnear is doing - so yeah he blew 70 million on rubbish players
(one up to the anti- roy brigade)
- maybe i was wrong about him after all:confused:
gustavo
04/12/2008, 11:57 AM
This guy spends 80 million plus, mostly on sub standard players, eg Chimbonda, Yorke,Harte, Chopra, Tainio, Malbranque, Cisse, Diouf , McShane, Stokes, O Donovan etc. I have more than likely forgotten the rest, there has been so much money wasted. Then you lot say give him a chance! How many of you will be following Sunderland after he either jumps ship(again) or he is pushed?
Get off the stage!
I'd hardly call Cisse and Malbranque substandard
OneRedArmy
04/12/2008, 11:58 AM
The burning question is where will all the noveau SundIreland fans go now?
smasher
04/12/2008, 11:58 AM
he was in trouble last season yet saw it through and they stayed up so your comment is nonsense. he took them over when thay were near the bottom of the championship and steered them to a very impressive league win and promotion. how many other sunderland managers have managed promotion and kept them up the following season?
How many Sunderland managers have got the cash he got?
He walked in Saipan and he's walked away again. Do you not detect a vein of consistency here?
Longfordian
04/12/2008, 11:59 AM
40 quid into the kitty for me, presuming he doesn't do a U-turn. All very necessary at this expensive time of year.
Claret Murph
04/12/2008, 12:00 PM
Very simple he wasn't up to the job , he spent £70 million or what since he was there .
LOSER .:)
Buzzer
04/12/2008, 12:04 PM
He indulged in a bit too much shopping therapy at Woolworths, afterwards complaining that the goods were faulty, also complained that there was no remote control in the package.
Meanwhile other managers who shopped at similar stores were able to repair any faults and embarrassed him. But Roy still persisted in complaining about the faulty goods.
He did provide a retirement home of sorts for our veteran players but then he would chuck them out in the middle of winter.
lost the plot...big time...putting players on t/lists 'cause they're late instead of calling them aside...buying chimbonda!!!! my god the man could 'cause friction in a silent order,not to mind a soccer club...5.5mil for chopra..loaned back to cardiff a year later...8.5 for "better then by brother" ferdinand....west ham were laughing all the way to bank..and a host of cork players who went out on loan as soon as they came in....christ he took cork out of a fair hole(where's the roy wonder from again??).
cancel the direct flights from cork...no more s/land jerseys at the cork matches.
think you will get those jerseys for about a fiver from tomorrow on.
wait you see the cork lads up in arms now about his departure....
like the hurlers"we may not always be right,but we are never wrong!!!!!"mindset
lionelhutz
04/12/2008, 12:07 PM
Incorect, Keane had a bigger budget then anyone bar Birmingham that season (who sold Heskey, Pennant and then Upson to generate it) and had a higher net spend then anyone in that league. He was also able to offer lower level Premier league wages to attract the likes of Connolly, Miller, Kavanagh etc back down to the Championship.
The excuses being trotted out by those still blinkered for his failure are embarrassing at this stage. Is Sunderland any less attractive as a destination for a player then Wigan for example? Or Hull for that matter?
Exactly. Would Cisse, Chimbonda, Malbranque, Ferdinand or Richardson even consider signing for the likes of Wigan, West Brom, Hull, Bolton, Stoke or Fulham? I don't think so. And 5 of those clubs are ahead of Sunderland in the table - some considerably ahead.
As well as that, I don't rate the 5 players above or tbh any of the players he signed this season. His transfer dealings have been awful and he hasn't been able to get any consistency of performance out of his players. Damning indictment for any manager.
Far from convinced that Keane will make a good manager. He seems to have a confrontational management style which rarely works.
Aside from getting Sunderland promoted he has not done anything else. He has not improved any players & his team do not play good football. From what I have seen seems to be a lot of long balls.
OwlsFan
04/12/2008, 12:11 PM
The burning question is where will all the noveau SundIreland fans go now?
Go back to supporting Man U ?
Billy-Green
04/12/2008, 12:13 PM
Got lucky with Andy Reid hitting form after he bought him last season, would've gone down otherwise.
Ye really lucky, imagine a manager buying a quality player to help them stay up and then the player actually playing to his abilty that the manager knew he had and keeping the team up :rolleyes: total luck
Razors left peg
04/12/2008, 12:17 PM
there a very few managers that are a total success in their first job ,he has made alot of mistakes at Sunderland but he has also shown in getting them promoted and keeping them up last year that he still has a big future in management. He will learn from this and be better for it in the future
Drumcondra 69er
04/12/2008, 12:25 PM
Whatever you say about him the feat he achieved of a giant u-turn in his first season was nothing short of incredible. He did this without any top class players or expensive signings, just making the most of what he had and brought the best out of the likes of Connolly, Whitehead and Murphy. Then made a shrewd signing in Carlos Edwards and totally transformed previous waster like Nosworthy. He only lost once in 23 games in the second half of that season and it was nothing but sensational management that got them promoted.
The problems began after that when Keane was given money to spend. I think his single biggest problem was that he didn't show enough faith in the players he had, replacing most of them as soon as possible. What was initially a positive feeling soon turned negative, and even worse the season after with the likes of Diouf, Chimbonda and Cisse being dragged in. They could have been the makings of a great side otherwise.
As posted above.
Incorect, Keane had a bigger budget then anyone bar Birmingham that season (who sold Heskey, Pennant and then Upson to generate it) and had a higher net spend then anyone in that league. He was also able to offer lower level Premier league wages to attract the likes of Connolly, Miller, Kavanagh etc back down to the Championship.
Hard to see what job he'd go to next.
Cork hurling manager ... sound like they'd be a good match for each other :p
Drumcondra 69er
04/12/2008, 12:32 PM
Ye really lucky, imagine a manager buying a quality player to help them stay up and then the player actually playing to his abilty that the manager knew he had and keeping the team up :rolleyes: total luck
:rolleyes:You think they'd have stayed up if Reid had been in his current form last season? After the amount of sh1t players he'd bought he was bound to get lucky once.....
Razors left peg
04/12/2008, 12:34 PM
nice to see it gives all the Roy Keane haters something to be happy about for a while anyway!!
Maybe Sunderland should give the job to a good manager like Mick McCarthy..... oh wait, how did he do with them again;)
SunderlandBohs
04/12/2008, 12:37 PM
he was in trouble last season yet saw it through and they stayed up so your comment is nonsense. he took them over when thay were near the bottom of the championship and steered them to a very impressive league win and promotion. how many other sunderland managers have managed promotion and kept them up the following season?
Peter Reid!
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