Originally Posted by pineapple stu
San Marino. When was the last time they didn't lose a qualifier?
Hearing someone say "well, at least we're guaranteed 6 points against San Marino" seems, on current form, presumptuous.
San Marino. When was the last time they didn't lose a qualifier?
Hearing someone say "well, at least we're guaranteed 6 points against San Marino" seems, on current form, presumptuous.
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Cyprus will destroy San Marino in their home stadium.Cyprus are about as strong as an Eircom league XI. An EL XI could give any team a decent game at home as Cyprus usually do. San Marino's best player plays in Serie C1 and they're the worst team in Europe. The rest of their players play in San Marino I think which I guess is probably equivalent to a decent Sunday league over here. A draw against them in San Marino would be a lot more embarassing than the 5-2 defeat to Cyprus.
Just to put their league into perspective.
The Champions of San Marino lost 7-1 on aggregate to APOEL of Cyprus this season in the 1st round of the UEFA cup. APOEL finished 3rd in the Cypriot league.
The previous Champions lost 8-0 on agg to NK Domzale of Slovenia.
The year before that they lost 9-1 to FK Zeljeznicar of Bosnia.
And before that they lost 9-0 to a Russian team.
Last edited by eirebhoy; 17/10/2006 at 11:53 PM.
I can't think of another international team that I would be as confident we would beat. Obviously anything could happen but I would have thought if we played the 100 times we would win 99. This isnt being disrespectful, it's being realistic.
San Marino V Leitrim would be a fairer match than SM V ROI.... see below:
San Marino:
Population (2006 est.): 29,251
Largest city: Serravalle: 8,700
Currency: Euro
Source: http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0107939.html
Leitrim:
Population (2006 Census): 28,837
Largest Town: Carrick-on-Shannon: 8,192 (includes rural area)
Currency: Euro
Source: http://www.cso.ie/census/documents/2...naryReport.pdf
Now I think than the National Team should be able to beat a Leitrim Select XI.... shouldn't we????
For the first time in our history we are now ranked below the north, see bbc:
N Ireland ranked above Republic
Lawrie Sanchez has guided Northern Ireland into the top 50
Northern Ireland have overtaken the Republic of Ireland in the Fifa rankings for the first time.
After beating Latvia in their most recent Euro 2008 qualifier, Northern Ireland have risen 13 places to 45 while the Republic slip to 49.
It is Northern Ireland's highest ranking since 1995 and the Republic's lowest for eight years.
Steve Staunton's Republic suffered a 5-2 defeat in Cyprus before holding the Czech Republic to a draw at home.
Under Sanchez, Northern Ireland have risen from 124th place in the rankings.
However, their progress did not stop the former Wimbledon midfielder considering his position in September after receiving criticism he felt his team did not deserve.
Sanchez recently stated that he would like to get Northern Ireland higher than the Republic during his time in charge.
Although the food in San Marino may be better than in Leitrim
Totally depressing them ranking.
I said we should beat them, and we should. I didn't say we will beat them.San Marino. When was the last time they didn't lose a qualifier?
Hearing someone say "well, at least we're guaranteed 6 points against San Marino" seems, on current form, presumptuous.
Stastically, a Lansdowne Road crowd XI should be as good as San Marino. I wouldn't see it as presumptuous that the best 11 players from the crowd would lose to the 11 players they're watching represent their country!!
Having seen Wales in recent years, I would have to agree. That said, their problem is inconsistency, often stemming from not having all their top players available, plus Toshack's policy of giving youth its head.
But considering how poor the ROI have been recently, the Welsh may be equally justified in thinking they could take 6 points.
Frankly, any of 0, 1, 2, 4 or 6 points could be the ROI's haul from the two Welsh games, with my money being on two points (and one or four dead-heating for the "podium places").
He might still get fired for a lack of ambition.
but nothing in comparison to the cuisine de cavan i'm sure
Code:World Cup 2006 Euro 2008 Team Played Points Played Points Avg Points 1 A Holland 12 32 4 10 2.625 2 A Sweden 10 24 4 12 2.571 3 A Germany 4 10 2.5 4 A Croatia 10 24 4 10 2.429 5 A Czech 12 27 4 10 2.313 6 A England 10 25 4 7 2.286 7 A Serbia 10 22 4 10 2.286 8 B Portugl 12 30 3 4 2.267 9 B Poland 10 24 4 7 2.214 10 B Italy 10 23 4 7 2.143 11 B Romania 12 25 3 7 2.133 12 B Turkey 12 23 3 9 2.133 13 B France 10 20 4 9 2.071 14 B Ukraine 12 25 3 6 2.066 15 C Greece 12 21 3 9 2.000 16 C Russia 12 23 4 8 1.937 17 C Denmark 12 22 3 7 1.933 18 C Norway 10 18 3 6 1.846 19 C Slovak. 12 23 4 6 1.813 20 C Switz. 10 18 1.800 21 C Israel 10 18 4 7 1.786 22 D Spain 10 20 3 3 1.770 23 D Bulgar. 10 15 4 8 1.649 24 D Ireland 10 17 5 7 1.600 25 D Finland 12 16 5 11 1.588 26 D Scotlnd 10 13 4 9 1.571 27 D Austria 10 15 1.500 28 D Bosnia 10 16 4 4 1.429 29 E Belgium 10 12 5 7 1.267 30 E Hungary 10 14 4 3 1.214 31 E Latvia 12 15 3 3 1.200 32 E Sloven. 10 12 3 3 1.154 33 E N.Irel 10 9 4 7 1.143 34 E Estonia 12 17 3 0 1.133 35 E Lithua. 10 10 3 4 1.077 36 F Belarus 10 10 4 4 1.000 37 F Maced. 12 9 5 7 0.941 38 F Albania 12 13 3 1 0.933 39 F Wales 10 8 3 3 0.846 40 F Georgia 12 10 4 3 0.813 41 F Cyprus 10 4 4 4 0.571 42 F Liecht. 12 8 3 0 0.533 43 Armenia 12 7 4 1 0.500 44 Iceland 10 4 4 3 0.500 45 Malta 10 3 3 3 0.462 46 Moldova 10 5 4 1 0.429 47 Andorra 12 5 4 0 0.313 48 Azerb. 10 3 4 1 0.286 49 Kazakh. 12 1 5 2 0.176 50 Faroes 10 1 4 0 0.071 51 Luxem. 12 0 3 0 0 52 San M. 10 0 4 0 0
Last edited by eirebhoy; 09/02/2007 at 12:31 PM.
Some more spin for Delaney to fire out
"Hey we might be managed by a man out of his depth ,
clueless tactically ,
lacking in belief,
ran incompetently
but when all is said and done ,WE ARE BETTER THAN SCOTLAND SO THERE!"
still in bloody pot D!
"If God had meant football to be played in the air, he'd have put grass in the sky." Brian Clough.
You'll NEVER beat the Irish.......you'll just draw with us instead!!!
So are Spain.
Sorry for not knowing this but do friendlys count towards seeding, considering the are 2 winable games in US in the summer. although maybe it would be a good thing if it didnt count as we'd get spanked on current form. Hopefully we'll have a new manager by then
This is the real thing, friendlies don't count.
I like the way we are written as Ireland.
Proper order, none of this ROI shíte.
Belgium are on a "bit" of a downer.
Who are we playing, Djibouti and Guam
SIGNATURESCOPE
Do they still call Ireland Eire on BBC and UTV???
Does anybody have the link to that upto date seedings page? It would be good to see know where we stand.
If this group is about damage control and we're looking at getting into the third seeds batch for the World Cup, then there appears to have been some good results last night i.e Belgium being hammered, Norway losing at home to Bosnia (although they must be a rival of ours, as they are fourth seeds also), Estonia losing to Russia and Denmark losing in Spain.
To be comfortable of nicking into the third seeds batch, we'll have to take 12 points of the Welsh and Slovaks, though I think 9 points should be enough.
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