...and off in the background the ghostly voice of Debbie Gibson could be heard singing "Only in My Dreams"Originally Posted by Bungle
...and off in the background the ghostly voice of Debbie Gibson could be heard singing "Only in My Dreams"
" I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"
Its changed a little since October with our wonderful wins against San Marino and Wales but hopefully the latest coefficients will be out soon.
National Team Ranking
Including all results up to Wednesday 11 October 2006
Rank Rank Country WC 2006 Qual EC 2008 Qual Total
2005 Pl Pt Ave Pl Pt Ave Pl Pt Ave
1 (7) Germany - - - 3 9 3.000 3 9 3.000
2 (1) Netherlands 12 32 2.667 4 10 2.500 16 42 2.625
3 (6) Sweden 10 24 2.400 4 12 3.000 14 36 2.571
4 (8) Croatia 10 24 2.400 3 7 2.333 13 31 2.385
5 (4) Czech Rep 12 27 2.250 4 10 2.500 16 37 2.313
6 (15) Serbia 10 22 2.200 4 10 2.500 14 32 2.286
7 (2) England 10 25 2.500 4 7 1.750 14 32 2.286
8 (3) Portugal 12 30 2.500 3 4 1.333 15 34 2.267
9 (11) Poland 10 24 2.400 4 7 1.750 14 31 2.214
10 (9) Italy 10 23 2.300 4 7 1.750 14 30 2.143
11 (10) Turkey 12 23 1.917 3 9 3.000 15 32 2.133
12 (13) Romania 12 25 2.083 3 7 2.333 15 32 2.133
13 (5) France 10 20 2.000 4 9 2.250 14 29 2.071
14 (21) Ukraine 12 25 2.083 3 6 2.000 15 31 2.067
15 (14) Greece 12 21 1.750 3 9 3.000 15 30 2.000
16 (17) Denmark 12 22 1.833 3 7 2.333 15 29 1.933
17 (27) Israel 10 18 1.800 3 7 2.333 13 25 1.923
18 (16) Russia 12 23 1.917 3 5 1.667 15 28 1.867
19 (19) Norway 10 18 1.800 3 6 2.000 13 24 1.846
20 (22) Slovakia 12 23 1.917 4 6 1.500 16 29 1.813
21 (18) Switzerland 10 18 1.800 - - - 10 18 1.800
22 (12) Spain 10 20 2.000 3 3 1.000 13 23 1.769
23 (20) Bulgaria 10 15 1.500 4 8 2.000 14 23 1.643
24 (28) Scotland 10 13 1.300 4 9 2.250 14 22 1.571
25 (32) Finland 12 16 1.333 4 8 2.000 16 24 1.500
26 (31) Austria 10 15 1.500 - - - 10 15 1.500
27 (23) Bosnia-Herz 10 16 1.600 4 4 1.000 14 20 1.429
28 (24) Rep Ireland 10 17 1.700 3 1 0.333 13 18 1.385
29 (25) Belgium 10 12 1.200 4 7 1.750 14 19 1.357
30 (30) Hungary 10 14 1.400 4 3 0.750 14 17 1.214
31 (26) Latvia 12 15 1.250 3 3 1.000 15 18 1.200
32 (29) Slovenia 10 12 1.200 3 3 1.000 13 15 1.154
33 (42) N Ireland 10 9 0.900 4 7 1.750 14 16 1.143
34 (33) Estonia 12 17 1.417 3 0 0.000 15 17 1.133
35 (35) Lithuania 10 10 1.000 3 4 1.333 13 14 1.077
36 (39) Macedonia 12 9 0.750 4 7 1.750 16 16 1.000
37 (40) Belarus 10 10 1.000 4 4 1.000 14 14 1.000
38 (36) Albania 12 13 1.083 3 1 0.333 15 14 0.933
39 (34) Wales 10 8 0.800 3 3 1.000 13 11 0.846
40 (38) Georgia 12 10 0.833 4 3 0.750 16 13 0.813
41 (43) Cyprus 10 4 0.400 3 3 1.000 13 7 0.538
42 (41) Armenia 12 7 0.583 3 1 0.333 15 8 0.533
43 (45) Liechtenstein 12 8 0.667 3 0 0.000 15 8 0.533
44 (37) Iceland 10 4 0.400 4 3 0.750 14 7 0.500
45 (48) Malta 10 3 0.300 3 3 1.000 13 6 0.462
46 (44) Moldova 10 5 0.500 4 1 0.250 14 6 0.429
47 (47) Andorra 12 5 0.417 4 0 0.000 16 5 0.313
48 (46) Azerbaijan 10 3 0.300 4 1 0.250 14 4 0.286
49 (50) Kazakhstan 12 1 0.083 4 2 0.500 16 3 0.188
50 (49) Faroe Isles 10 1 0.100 4 0 0.000 14 1 0.071
51 (51) San Marino 10 0 0.000 2 0 0.000 12 0 0.000
52 (52) Luxembourg 12 0 0.000 3 0 0.000 15 0 0.000
53 (--) Montenegro - - - - - -
I'd usually leave it until after Wednesday's matches but I'm bored.
Code:World Cup 2006 Euro 2008 Team Played Points Played Points Avg Points 1 A Germany 5 13 2.600 2 A Sweden 10 24 4 12 2.571 3 A Holland 12 32 5 11 2.529 4 A Croatia 10 24 5 13 2.467 5 A Portugl 12 30 5 10 2.352 6 A Poland 10 24 6 13 2.313 7 A England 10 25 5 8 2.200 8 B Turkey 12 23 4 12 2.188 9 B Czech 12 27 5 10 2.176 10 B Italy 10 23 4 7 2.143 11 B Serbia 10 22 5 10 2.133 12 B France 10 20 5 12 2.133 13 B Ukraine 12 25 4 9 2.125 14 B Romania 12 25 4 8 2.063 15 C Russia 12 23 5 11 2.000 16 C Slovak. 12 23 5 9 1.882 17 C Greece 12 21 4 9 1.875 18 C Spain 10 20 4 6 1.857 19 C Denmark 12 22 4 7 1.813 20 C Switz. 10 18 1.800 21 C Israel 10 18 5 8 1.733 22 D Norway 10 18 4 6 1.714 23 D Ireland 10 17 6 10 1.688 24 D Scotlnd 10 13 5 12 1.667 25 D Bulgar. 10 15 4 8 1.643 26 D Finland 12 16 5 11 1.588 27 D Bosnia 10 16 5 7 1.533 28 D Austria 10 15 1.500 29 E N.Irel 10 9 5 10 1.267 30 E Hungary 10 14 4 3 1.214 31 E Latvia 12 15 3 3 1.200 32 E Belgium 10 12 6 7 1.188 33 E Sloven. 10 12 4 4 1.143 34 E Belarus 10 10 5 7 1.133 35 E Estonia 12 17 4 0 1.063 36 F Lithua. 10 10 4 4 1.000 37 F Maced. 12 9 5 7 0.941 38 F Albania 12 13 4 2 0.938 39 F Wales 10 8 4 3 0.786 40 F Georgia 12 10 5 3 0.765 41 F Cyprus 10 4 5 4 0.533 42 F Liecht. 12 8 4 0 0.500 43 Armenia 12 7 4 1 0.500 44 Iceland 10 4 4 3 0.500 45 Malta 10 3 4 4 0.500 46 Moldova 10 5 5 2 0.467 47 Kazakh. 12 1 6 5 0.333 48 Andorra 12 5 4 0 0.313 49 Azerb. 10 3 5 1 0.267 50 Faroes 10 1 5 0 0.067 51 Luxem. 12 0 4 0 0 52 San M. 10 0 4 0 0
If we finished the campaign in Group D, I'm not going to have too much confidence for the world cup campaign. Look at some of the teams ahead of us
Its goin to make things really difficult
How about this possible group
Germany,Italy,Spain,IRELAND,N.Ireland,Cyprus,San Marino.
Shows how far we have dropped.
yeah, the fact i looked at the 2 last seeds and realised that there wasn't even guaranteed 6 points off each anymore
If we win on Wednesday and Norway lose in Turkey we would move into the 3rd pot at least for the moment. I think we'd be lucky to maintain a 4th seeding spot after this campaign.
the thing is if we take 10 points off all our games against Slovakia and Wales (I know optimism is reigning supreme here and beat cyprus then we may nick into third seeds fairly comfortably. This would put us ahead of Slovakia, while teams like Ukraine, Denmark, Israel, Norway and Russia are in very difficult groups and will drop alot of points. Hopefully the Scots will get pummelled in their remaining games because they're going to be a real rival for third seeds.
Christ, i remember the good old days, when we used to talk about going to World Cups... now we are looking at 3rd place qualifying seedings as our cup winning trophy moment!
"A silent mouth is sweet to hear"
True but if we can make it into the third batch of seeds and get a favourable group then maybe we can think about qualification.........in fact start saving now because we always qualify for the most expensive places....Fifa's decision to rotate world cups is really Blatter's gift to Irish football!!!
With the talent of the young lads and a decent manager and a good draw i.e Poland and Sweden as first two seeds then I'd be very hopeful. here's hoping!!
We've gone above Norway and back where we started.
Code:World Cup 2006 Euro 2008 Team Played Points Played Points Avg Points 1 A Germany 5 13 2.6 2 A Holland 12 32 6 14 2.556 3 A Croatia 10 24 5 13 2.467 4 A Sweden 10 24 5 12 2.400 5 A Poland 10 24 7 16 2.353 6 A Portugl 12 30 6 11 2.278 7 A England 10 25 6 11 2.250 8 B Czech 12 27 6 13 2.222 9 B Italy 10 23 5 10 2.200 10 B Ukraine 12 25 5 12 2.176 11 B France 10 20 5 12 2.133 12 B Romania 12 25 5 11 2.118 13 B Turkey 12 23 5 13 2.118 14 B Serbia 10 22 6 11 2.063 15 C Russia 12 23 5 11 2.000 16 C Greece 12 21 5 12 1.941 17 C Spain 10 20 5 9 1.933 18 C Denmark 12 22 4 7 1.813 19 C Israel 10 18 6 11 1.813 20 C Switz. 10 18 1.800 21 C Slovak. 12 23 6 9 1.778 22 D Ireland 10 17 7 13 1.765 23 D Norway 10 18 5 7 1.667 24 D Bulgar. 10 15 5 9 1.600 25 D Scotlnd 10 13 6 12 1.563 26 D Bosnia 10 16 5 7 1.533 27 D Finland 12 16 6 11 1.500 28 D Austria 10 15 1.500 29 E N.Irel 10 9 6 13 1.375 30 E Hungary 10 14 5 6 1.333 31 E Belgium 10 12 6 7 1.188 32 E Belarus 10 10 5 7 1.133 33 E Latvia 12 15 4 3 1.125 34 E Sloven. 10 12 5 4 1.067 35 E Estonia 12 17 5 0 1.000 36 F Albania 12 13 5 3 0.941 37 F Lithua. 10 10 5 4 0.933 38 F Wales 10 8 5 6 0.933 39 F Maced. 12 9 6 7 0.889 40 F Georgia 12 10 6 6 0.888 41 F Liecht. 12 8 5 3 0.647 42 F Cyprus 10 4 6 4 0.500 43 Armenia 12 7 5 1 0.471 44 Iceland 10 4 5 3 0.467 45 Malta 10 3 5 4 0.467 46 Moldova 10 5 6 2 0.438 47 Azerb. 10 3 6 4 0.438 48 Kazakh. 12 1 6 5 0.333 49 Andorra 12 5 5 0 0.294 50 Faroes 10 1 6 0 0.063 51 Luxem. 12 0 5 0 0 52 San M. 10 0 5 0 0
This meaningful thread always seems to drop out of the radar. Is it worth it to have it as stickie instead of lets say the t-shirt protest which has had it's day?
(until we lose again of course)
I love this thread! Brings out the geek in all of us.
Until we start qualifying for major tournaments then this is the highlight of our international side - edging closer to pot C!!!
"If God had meant football to be played in the air, he'd have put grass in the sky." Brian Clough.
You'll NEVER beat the Irish.......you'll just draw with us instead!!!
eb, can you put the date of each update in the post? is that table after the slovakia game?
thks
You mean some sort of mechanism which notes at what time each post was made?
Like what we already have?
Apologies if thsi has been answered before. This list is based on the assumption there will be 7 groups for the next qualifying campaing. IS there any official word on this. (I assume Europe have 13 auto qualifiers next time and no hosts).
good call cavan fan , i think it has been announced will have a look on fifa site
Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
I slept, and dreamed that life was Beauty;
I woke, and found that life was Duty.
32 teams, 31 slots up for grabs
South Africa qualify automatically as the host nation, so the rest of the world will be competing for the remaining 31 places in the final phase. As has been the case at past tournaments, the majority of teams will come from Europe, which has 13 slots.
African teams have an interesting three years ahead of them, since this will be their first FIFA World Cup on home soil and in front of their own partisan fans. Each of Africa's participating nations will therefore be doubly keen to secure one of the five berths available.
South America have been allocated four places, with a further slot available via a play-off with a team from the North, Central American and Caribbean Zone, who themselves have three guaranteed places.
Asia will be represented by four teams at the tournament, with a fifth berth also available via a play-off with the winners of the Oceania Zone.
Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
I slept, and dreamed that life was Beauty;
I woke, and found that life was Duty.
no mention of how many groups cavan fan
looks like it will be another best qualifier and play offs saga again
Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
I slept, and dreamed that life was Beauty;
I woke, and found that life was Duty.
Ah yes, I failed to notice the bleeding obvious. sorry!Like what we already have?
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