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    Sounds like somebody in Dumbarton was playing with their voodoo doll.

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    Daniel Devine (PNE), has been named in the NI under 19 squad for their international friendly against Spain next week.

    Maybe he ran into Don Givens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fly View Post
    Daniel Devine (PNE), has been named in the NI under 19 squad for their international friendly against Spain next week.

    Maybe he ran into Don Givens?
    Could it be that he was named in the squad, despite making his decision to change? Has been named in any ROI squads?

    Interestingly, a poll on the Belfast Telegraph is currently in favour of allowing people from the north to play for the Republic, leading some posters around the world wide web to label it as a 'fix!'.

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sp...-14708795.html
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    Daniel Devine was one of 30 players to be called into the Irish U-19 training camp last month :

    http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=c...r-19&Itemid=12
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    Yeah, but he was named in the NI U19 squad today: http://www.irishfa.com/the-ifa/news/...take-on-spain/

    I was wondering if he had been included in any ROI match squads. Beaglehole could possibly have named him in the squad, despite him saying he wanted to play for ROI, like Worthington did with Duffy. Maybe there was a breakdown in communication or a mistake. For example, there are two Chris Currans in that NI U19 squad...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Predator View Post
    Interestingly, a poll on the Belfast Telegraph is currently in favour of allowing people from the north to play for the Republic, leading some posters around the world wide web to label it as a 'fix!'.

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sp...-14708795.html
    It could well be a 'fix'.............that's if the other poll the Belfast Telegraph just completed is anything to go by.

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-14721135.html

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    Those polls are quite amusing, though probably flawed.
    Some of their responses, highlight the paranoia mentioned above. And just shows the delusional state of certain people on the island!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    Those polls are quite amusing, though probably flawed.
    Some of their responses, highlight the paranoia mentioned above. And just shows the delusional state of certain people on the island!
    They started a thread about the poll on Are We A Country. Didn't like they way it was 60/40 in favour yesterday so decided to mess with the figures by using multiple votes. tutt! tutt!

    Even explained that if you clear your cookies each time, you can vote as many times as you like.

    Very insecure those lads !

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    Those polls are quite amusing, though probably flawed.
    Some of their responses, highlight the paranoia mentioned above. And just shows the delusional state of certain people on the island!
    Flawed? Much more than that. All you do is clear your cookies and vote again!

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    Mr.P.
    As I'm sure yer familiar with elections in the North, multiple voting there is not exactly a new phenomenon.....
    But doesn't stop the 'results' being a reason to smile. Especially, as CDG says, the losers did the best to fix it in their favour! Which just shows the weakness of their 'argument'.

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    Ronnie O'Brien: Time Magazine Man of the Century

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    That OWC couldn't hit a barn door from 5m.
    Can't even win a rigged vote on their own doorstep.

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    the issue of replacing God Save The Queen was debated on Off The Ball last night with of the Kenny Donaldson, UUP spokesman on the community and voluntary sector, it's on the playback service at http://media.newstalk.ie/
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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    That OWC couldn't hit a barn door from 5m.
    Can't even win a rigged vote on their own doorstep.
    That's one interpretation, I suppose; another might be that when it comes to rigging these things, OWC members are not so adept or practiced as their opponents. Or even that with around 1,000 (?) reasonably active posters from a total membership of a few thousand, OWC's "circulation" is drastically lower than that of the Belfast Telegraph.

    Either way, that (Tony O'Reilly-controlled) Bellylaugh poll has about as much credibility as eg this Poll by your National Broadcaster:
    http://www.rte.ie/tv/irelandsgreatest/

    I mean to say, Ronan Keating and Stephen Gately?

    What the Hell is wrong with the other Members of the Band?

    As both a musical genius and a thespian of Olivier proportions, Keith Duffy is a veritable Renaissance Man, yet he doesn't get a mention!

    I am reminded of the phrase by James Joyce, where he characterised Ireland as being like "The old Sow that eats its own Farrow" - not that that nonentity deserves to be in such a Poll...
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    the issue of replacing God Save The Queen was debated on Off The Ball last night with of the Kenny Donaldson, UUP spokesman on the community and voluntary sector, it's on the playback service at http://media.newstalk.ie/
    Thanks for the alert, but is it available yet? I've checked through the OTB playback schedule and the most recent edition I can find is 18th March. Maybe I'm missing something?

    Anyhow, for anyone interested, OWC ran two Polls on the topic of replacing GSTQ as the NI footballing anthem last year and with a healthy response of about 700-odd voters in each, returned a clear 2:1 majority in favour of change.

    This exercise is being repeated at the moment, and with 326 votes cast so far, the response is 236 (= 76.4%) to 77 (=23.6%) in favour of............













    ...replacing GSTQ.

    Therefore if this indicates anything about the mindset of your average OWC member, it is that by a 3:1 majority (and rising?), we must all be implacable, Loyalist Bigots (or "small-minded refusniks", as one poster on here so charmingly phrased it)
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    a bit more accurate guidance to the Newstalk OTB program.
    http://media.newstalk.ie/listenback/

    off the ball - monday - part 3
    from 30mins on to 40 mins approx
    Interview with Kenny Donaldson, a cheerful chap who states in the interview that he is a practicing Unionist
    He says that the atmosphere at WP has radically changed from what it was some years ago.

    Did he also say "Phil the Coulter" ?
    a sort of a Percy French slip of the tongue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EalingGreen View Post
    Thanks for the alert, but is it available yet? I've checked through the OTB playback schedule and the most recent edition I can find is 18th March. Maybe I'm missing something?

    Anyhow, for anyone interested, OWC ran two Polls on the topic of replacing GSTQ as the NI footballing anthem last year and with a healthy response of about 700-odd voters in each, returned a clear 2:1 majority in favour of change.

    This exercise is being repeated at the moment, and with 326 votes cast so far, the response is 236 (= 76.4%) to 77 (=23.6%) in favour of............













    ...replacing GSTQ.

    Therefore if this indicates anything about the mindset of your average OWC member, it is that by a 3:1 majority (and rising?), we must all be implacable, Loyalist Bigots (or "small-minded refusniks", as one poster on here so charmingly phrased it)
    Interesting. Might be time to set up a poll for what you'd replace it with?

    Teenage Kicks? How cool an anthem would that be!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Predator View Post
    Ah, I suppose it's to be expected. I'm 'on thin ice' now though; I've been accused of lying and uttering 'half-truths' and some posters suspect I work for the FAI and I'm scouring the forum looking for players who would be susceptible to 'poaching' because I started the thread on Shane Duffy on here - oh the powers of deduction (paranoia?).
    Imo you're being highly disingenuous with that interpretation of your experience on OWC, Predator.

    For when, following a period of "lurking", you first started posting on the Board (around the France play-off), you received little or no adverse comment. However, when you took exception to some (only some, btw) of the response to the Duffy defection, your attitude visibly hardened.

    Now that's fair enough, except that a hardening of attitude in response to what you consider to be unreasonable remarks is one thing. It is quite another when you descend to petty, even risible, argument* to try to bolster your case.

    When you did that, you should not be surprised if people began to consider you a troll.

    P.S. You may not be aware of it, but one of the posters with whom you have had the strongest run-ins is actually a fellow Donegal man. However, unlike you, he supports a local club team (Harps), not one from another county (country?) at all...


    * - For those who don't know, Predator strongly defended the motives, manner and timing of Duffy's switch, which is fair enough. Except that when presented with clearly contradictory and damning evidence of Duffy/his Da saying one thing, whilst simultaneously doing something quite different, rather than withdrawing gracefully, Predator tried to rely on the "defence" that the guy posting on OWC as "Duffs" was not in fact who he claimed to be (Duffy's Da). Pathetic, really...

    Quote Originally Posted by Predator View Post
    Some posters even suggested that non-Northern Ireland fans should not be allowed to use the forum in light of posts from Danny Invincible, AdiosAndytown? and myself. Sure, why don't the admins at foot.ie refuse entry to EalingGreen, Gather round and Not Brazil etc. since they're not Republic of Ireland supporters? Oh wait, that's right, because it's silly.
    You said it, Predator, "some" posters. In my experience (admittedly limited to a bare handful of MB's), every such forum has its share of "silly" posters, including this one.

    Indeed, I have had exactly the same reaction here i.e. "what are you even doing on this Board?" etc. Imo, the proper reaction is to stand your ground and make your point (ideally without resorting to the sort of weak or "silly" argument you employ, when backed into a corner)

    Quote Originally Posted by Predator View Post

    You are dead right too. It is annoying when they complain about this perceived 'defacto sectarian poaching policy'* and then argue that cases such as Norwood's or whatever are different and excusable. On top of that, their fans are outright denying that a player would ever approach the FAI to declare for them, making it out like the FAI are acting shady and kidnapping Catholic children in the North and brainwashing them into wanting to play for the Republic.

    *I'd love to know how they come to this conclusion.
    Speaking of "silly", why can you not see that the likes of eg Norwood and Gibson are different in one crucial aspect, namely that Norwood has grandparents born within the jurisdiction of the Association he wishes to represent, whilst Gibson does not. The correct comparison with Norwood should be the likes of James McCarthy, or your beloved Shane Duffy, both of whom comply with the (ancestral/residential) eligibility requirements imposed on every other single footballer on the planet who wishes to represent an Association within whose jurisdiction he was not born.

    As for the de facto sectarian nature of the FAI's recruitment policy, as every new case of defection emerges, the incontrovertible fact that they are exclusively from the Nationalist/Catholic community, combined with the equally incontrovertible evidence of the FAI being prepared to make the first approach, points ever more directly to the point that they are only offering opportunities to one community in NI.

    Which, considering the FAI's deceit over "not making the first approach", makes sense i.e. if they were to approach promising youngsters from the Unionist/Protestant community, they would risk being turned down flat, and their activities being exposed for all to see.

    Still, we're the bigots in all this...
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    Quote Originally Posted by EalingGreen View Post
    Thanks for the alert, but is it available yet? I've checked through the OTB playback schedule and the most recent edition I can find is 18th March. Maybe I'm missing something?
    It's definitely there, I was listening to it myself this morning. I listened to it a few times to get his name and position correct
    Kenny states right at the start that this is his personal opinion and not that of the UUP

    Click "Listen Back"
    Scroll down to Off The Ball, and select it
    Click Monday 22nd
    It's in Part 3, about 30 minutes in
    Quote Originally Posted by EalingGreen View Post
    Anyhow, for anyone interested, OWC ran two Polls on the topic of replacing GSTQ as the NI footballing anthem last year and with a healthy response of about 700-odd voters in each, returned a clear 2:1 majority in favour of change.

    This exercise is being repeated at the moment, and with 326 votes cast so far, the response is 236 (= 76.4%) to 77 (=23.6%) in favour of............

    ...replacing GSTQ.

    Therefore if this indicates anything about the mindset of your average OWC member, it is that by a 3:1 majority (and rising?), we must all be implacable, Loyalist Bigots (or "small-minded refusniks", as one poster on here so charmingly phrased it)
    Might be a different result if they followed Kenny's suggestion!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    It's definitely there, I was listening to it myself this morning. I listened to it a few times to get his name and position correct
    Kenny states right at the start that this is his personal opinion and not that of the UUP

    Click "Listen Back"
    Scroll down to Off The Ball, and select it
    Click Monday 22nd
    It's in Part 3, about 30 minutes in
    You are not delusional Tets
    I have already given the link for Listen Back

    The problem for some might be where to find 'listen back' on the newstalk site as there is no obvious link.
    The 'listen back' link can be found at the bottom of the home page under 'Most Popular'
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