Pick your Ireland team with Liverpool's new 352 formation

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  1. gally said:

    Pick your Ireland team with Liverpool's new 352 formation

    Given
    Josh Dunne Clark
    Coleman Hunt as wing backs
    Foley Gibson Duff
    Long Doyle

    This was the formation with which Liverpool beat Chelsea today, do formations really matter, or is it just the players that win or lose matches, my first observation is that maybe our left back problem would be alleviated.

    Your opinions please....
     
  2. Stuttgart88 said:
    I've always liked 3-5-2, but also love a back 4 with attacking fullbacks.
     
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    Charlie Darwin said:
    I think formations do matter but I'd be wary of 3-5-2. It seems like the sort of formation managers pick when they have 3 quality centre-halves and don't want to drop any of them rather than it actually being the best use of all 11 players. I think England tried it under Hoddle with mixed success and then Steve McLaren tried it and saw his side minced by Croatia.

    I think we possibly do have the players to make it work but Trap is never going to waver from his beloved 4-4-2.
     
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    Colbert Report said:
    -----------------------------Given
    ---------------------O'Shea-Dunne-Clark
    -----Coleman-------------------------------------Kilbane(shoot me)
    -----------------Andrews-Gibson-Whelan-----------------------------
    --------------------Keane-Doyle-------------------------------------

    Tough to leave Duff on the bench but he can't cut it as a left back as evidenced when Newcastle played him there for an entire half season.
     
  5. Stuttgart88 said:
    I like the look of that alright.
     
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    TrapAPony said:
    Given
    O'Shea Dunne Clark
    Coleman Cunningham
    McCarthy Meyler Duff
    Keane Doyle
    Last edited by TrapAPony; 06/02/2011 at 10:09 PM.
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  7. Noelys Guitar said:
    Well first off I'd "drop" Trap and Tardelli and bring in Kenny and Clarke...
    Given
    O'Shea, Dunne, Clark
    Coleman, Whelan
    McCarthy, Doyle, Duff
    Keane, Long

    Doyle and Keane are both excellent at dropping back and bringing other players into play. For me Doyle would just shade that position in between McCarthy and Duff.
    Last edited by Noelys Guitar; 06/02/2011 at 11:28 PM.
     
  8. Drumcondra 69er said:
    Just because Sky have pushed the full backs into midfield for their poxy 'walk towards the camera' shots at the start of the game doesn't change that formation from 5-3-2 for me......
     
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    Scooby Doo said:
    ------------------------Given---------------------

    ----Coleman----------- Dunne---------------Clarke

    ---McGeady------O'Shea-----Meyler/another-----Duff

    ---------------------McCarthy--------------------

    -----------------Keane------Doyle---------------


    Maybe a bit defensively suspect on the right but serves me well in FIFA!
    Last edited by Scooby Doo; 07/02/2011 at 12:03 AM.
     
  10. MacLondon said:
    Given
    O'Shea, Dunne, St. Ledger
    Coleman --------------- Duff
    Lawrence, Andrews, Whelan
    Keane, Long

    No place for Doyle, Ireland's (lower scoring) version of David N'gog.
    I'd describe Liverpool's formation in both games this week as 5-4-1 though.
     
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    tetsujin1979 said:
    I'd go with
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    		Given
    	O'Shea	Dunne	Clarke
    Coleman				Hunt
    	Whelan	Fahey	McCarthy
    	    Keane   Doyle
    Feel almost dirty dropping Duff, but like others have said I don't think the defensive side of his game is up to playing wing back.
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    cufc champions said:
    Westwood
    Clarke Dunne O Shea
    Duff/ Hunt Fahey Wilson McCarthy Mcgeady
    Long Doyle

    I was calling for this change over a month ago it may actually suit us, only rhing is we may get caught down the sides to counter act this Marc Wilson as the holding player would have to work his nuts off to cover left and right so the centre backs do not get pulled out of position
     
  13. Junior said:
    I really liked the 3-5-2 formation when Celtic played it under MON. Our problem is our wide players are essentially attackers. Hunt and Lawrence probably being more disciplined/able to do the defensive duties but they do not have the ability of say Duff and McGeady in an attacking sense.

    Celtic had the right players at the time to make this work. Agathe, McNamara, Thompson (perhaps less so) were equally able in attack and defense.

    Coleman looks to have the qualities to suit the right sided spot but obviously his defensive side needs work on as has been commented on elsewhere.

    Nice to read the comments on here but we wont be changing from a 4-4-2 anytime soon.
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    shakermaker1982 said:
    We can't even find two decent central midfielders how would we find 3?!!!
    "If God had meant football to be played in the air, he'd have put grass in the sky." Brian Clough.

    You'll NEVER beat the Irish.......you'll just draw with us instead!!!
     
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    TrapAPony said:
    Quote Originally Posted by shakermaker1982 View Post
    We can't even find two decent central midfielders how would we find 3?!!!
    McCarthy, Wilson & Meyler?
    Last edited by TrapAPony; 08/02/2011 at 12:46 PM.
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    shakermaker1982 said:
    Quote Originally Posted by TrapAPony View Post
    McCarthy, Wilson & Meyler?
    Injured, not trusted to play and injured.
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    You'll NEVER beat the Irish.......you'll just draw with us instead!!!
     
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    Charlie Darwin said:
    You'd really need 5 or 6 good midfielders to account for injuries. Look at Germany, for instance.
     
  18. cufc champions's Avatar

    cufc champions said:
    Quote Originally Posted by TrapAPony View Post
    McCarthy, Wilson & Meyler?
    Ciaran Clarke can hold if needed. Liam Lawerence Fahey Gibson even Hunt could step in and do a job. We are probably better off suited than Liverpool at play this system that being said Trapatoni will not change anytime soon and we are going to stuck with Paul Green holding with Glenn Whelan