Passports are of no consequence in the context of what I stated...you really need to read up on the respective Citizenship laws of the Republic Of Ireland and the United Kingdom Of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, as they pertain to people on this island.Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Just read it again.
And was being 'tongue-in-cheek', FFS. You lot are paranoid about everything.
As said before, have family born in Doire & Beal-feirste and just have Irish passports. They're not interested in a British one or denouncing something they've never had. Not that anyone has ever asked them!
If you want a Brit.one, bully for you or whoever. Maybe 'thank' them for their past colonial antics, will you?
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Do you mean Roy Millar, Director Of Coaching at the IFA?No idea, Perhaps the current IFA director of coaching, Roy Millar scared them away from the sport after they committed treason against 'loyal ulster'
http://www.irishfa.com/the-ifa/news/...ing-conference
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
I presume this the same boy who accused young lads from the North who represented Ireland of ''neglecting their country''.Do you mean Roy Millar, Director Of Coaching at the IFA?
http://www.irishfa.com/the-ifa/news/...ing-conference
Well you can't have a passport unless you're a citizen and really not interested in tedious attempts at point-scoring. So maybe you just need to accept there's more flexibility in practice.
After they'd represented Northern Ireland?
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Where have I denied that?
How do you think Northern Irish nationalists qualify to play for Northern Ireland?
I'll give you a clue - they don't need to have Irish Passports.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
I thought you knew about the FIFA rules on eligibility?
I presume the England u17 player Oliver Norwood is very welcome in the North's set-up.
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They don't need British passports either do they? I thought the requirements were changed?Where have I denied that?
How do you think Northern Irish nationalists qualify to play for Northern Ireland?
I'll give you a clue - they don't need to have Irish Passports.
Was the whole eligibilty thing not based on who is what?
Do YOU not need to accept that "there's more flexibility in progess"?
Last edited by Not Brazil; 12/12/2009 at 1:01 AM.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
That's correct - you don't need a passport to be a Citizen of either or both of the United Kingdom of Great Britiain and Northern Ireland and the Republic Of Ireland.
Last edited by Not Brazil; 12/12/2009 at 1:04 AM.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Well, as you keep saying it's up to them. Sceptical though about how many nationalists would have a British passport, voluntarily.
Perhaps, er, as a 'flag of convenience', to suit the IFA. And theirconstituency.
I have. See above. Now who's confused.Was the whole eligibilty thing not based on who is what?
Do YOU not need to accept that "there's more flexibility in progess"?
Yeah, I'm aware, but I was basically saying how I commended their all-Ireland basis. I suppose I just shrug off the fact clubs are strongly linked with their local parishes. I'm not religious and it never bothered me, but I can see how it obviously alienates itself from other communities by doing so.
Who says he doesn't pick the strongest team available? If so, he'd be a bit daft, surely?
Can't speak for them, but I'd agree you conceded an unlucky goal to a poor refereeing error. That doesn't fully explain why you lost the tie overall; in the second leg you needed to either a) win by scoring at least two goals, or b) rely on the lottery of penalties. And obviously you couldn't manage a) over either 90 or 120 minutes.And even the most begrudging Orange bigot might admit we 'enjoyed' no luck v.the French!!!
Make up your mind, if they're worthless don't quote them. I'm no fan of the official rankings, but over the last decade they broadly reflect reality: the South have been better than NI, but still pretty mediocre.Perhaps a better measure of international 'success' would be average FIFA(For all those C*nts are worth)'s World 'Rankings' over the last decade?
I'm not at all paranoid; I also have spoken to relatives who lived through the Blitz; the raid on Dublin can't credibly be explained as mistaking it for Belfast, Liverpool or anywhere else. It's got nothing to do with the Dev machine. The Germans targetted Belfast mainly as a major industrial centre and port, but also because British governments in the 1930s had scaled down its defences, thinking German bombers wouldn't have the range to get there. (Which also explains why Shorts' aircraft factory moved from Rochester on Medway in 1938).A no.of relations alive at the time, told me it was accounted popularly and subsequently, as being 'in error' due to being a foggy night. And bombed Beal-feirste (and Dublin) and error. Before you get all paranoid, some of them were no fans of the 'Dev' propaganda machine....
Er, they're both British and Northern Irish.But they must be as British, as some of the locals with that surname??
No point; we wouldn't; not interested. Can't you read?Just think how you might have benefited from an AI team then!
Adams is a common surname among Scottish Presbyterians. Of course Gerry's ancestors may have changed from another, similar-sounding Gaelic name.And what's the relevance of the 'Adams' mention??
Sorry to be dim, but isn't a passport a basic requirement of playing international football? Regardless of FIFA diktat, but so they can travel to away games, like. I assume some NI players have only RoI passports and that this isn't a problem?Well, as you keep saying it's up to them. Sceptical though about how many nationalists would have a British passport, voluntarily. Perhaps, er, as a 'flag of convenience', to suit the IFA. And their constituency
Yes, it is up to them.Well, as you keep saying it's up to them. Sceptical though about how many nationalists would have a British passport, voluntarily.
Perhaps, er, as a 'flag of convenience', to suit the IFA. And their
The amount of Northern Irish Nationalists who hold a Britsh passport voluntarily is absolutely irrelevant in the context of their British Citizenship.
Northern Irish nationalists do not have to have a British passport to play for Northern Ireland - the fact that they are British Citizens is all that is required, in accordance with FIFA Statutes.
Furthermore, the IFA lobbied FIFA in order that our nationalist players didn't have to have a British passport to evidence their eligibilty to FIFA.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Ha ha, just as well.
Or that'd be a third or so of your players potentially be upset before they even started.
Lucky they're not as self-righteous as some of their fans though.
You keep claiming to be 'Irish', so surely
Except I was talking about being unlucky;Not about whether you sounded credible in the field of mathematics!Can't speak for them, but I'd agree you conceded an unlucky goal to a poor refereeing error. That doesn't fully explain why you lost the tie overall; in the second leg you needed to either a) win by scoring at least two goals, or b) rely on the lottery of penalties. And obviously you couldn't manage a) over either 90 or 120 minutes.
Merely suggesting that they may be the best 'credible' measure?? And what have S.America got to do with N.E.Ulster??Make up your mind, if they're worthless don't quote them. I'm no fan of the official rankings, but over the last decade they broadly reflect reality: the South have been better than NI, but still pretty mediocre.
Wasn't asking if you were paranoid, but that's how it was reported broadly in Ireland at the time. Perhaps someone with grand-parents in the Pale then can confirm this?I'm not at all paranoid; I also have spoken to relatives who lived through the Blitz; the raid on Dublin can't credibly be explained as mistaking it for Belfast, Liverpool or anywhere else. It's got nothing to do with the Dev machine. The Germans targetted Belfast mainly as a major industrial centre and port, but also because British governments in the 1930s had scaled down its defences, thinking German bombers wouldn't have the range to get there. (Which also explains why Shorts' aircraft factory moved from Rochester on Medway in 1938).
Aye with a Welsh surname!Er, they're both British and Northern Irish.
Except weren't asking if you were! Just that it was a possibility.No point; we wouldn't; not interested. Can't you read?
Paranoia is alive & well?
Except that we kept being told it isn't. With the exception of away games outside the EU!Sorry to be dim, but isn't a passport a basic requirement of playing international football? Regardless of FIFA diktat, but so they can travel to away games, like. I assume some NI players have only RoI passports and that this isn't a problem?
I'm 100% Irish; apart from the inevitable injuries and so on, the only significant vagary I'm aware of is that one of your most gifted players isn't interested, for whatever reasons of his own.
You were definitely unlucky to concede a goal (which didn't in itself increase the number of goals you needed to score on the night). It's arguable whether you were unlucky in the tournament as a whole, or even the tie as a whole.Except I was talking about being unlucky;Not about whether you sounded credible in the field of mathematics!
Pretty much every measure suggests you've been better than us over the decade as a whole. In the five tournaments, you've outpointed us in four.Merely suggesting that they may be the best 'credible' measure??
The alternative that I mentioned was also widely reported; the mistaken identity theory has been widely discredited since.that's how it was reported broadly in Ireland at the time
So what? Your current side includes players with French, Scottish and English surnames.Aye with a Welsh surname!
A British or Irish passport holder living in Britain needs it to leave the country for any foreign country (EU or otherwise) bar the RoI. Doesn't the same apply leaving the RoI for any country other than Britain?Except that we kept being told it isn't. With the exception of away games outside the EU!
Is the 'Nonsense'/WD spool on 'Repeat' ??
Aye, it seems to be- you've posted the same repetitive nonsense 140 times on this thread alone.
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