just to clarify something, some posts have stated that Wednesday was Miller's first competitive start
According to soccerscene.ie - http://www.soccerscene.ie/sssenior/p...starts=1&id=28 - the 2-2 draw VS Wales at the end of the last qualification series was actually his first competitive start
Originally Posted by BigfeetBigsocks
Its a shame Liam didn't turn into the player he looked like he was going to be when he burst into the Celtic side... I think it started with a bad decision to Join Man United...he was young and improving he was getting regular football and also european experience with Celtic was never going to break into Man Utd Squad and command starting place.. All that brashness and confidence he was getting playing with Celtic every week was diminished by Alex and Man Utd... It must be very hard to get back to your best when you have been sitting on sideline or playing reserve games for couple of years... As i said shame was looking to be a great player, still agood player but more of a squad man now rather than top biller
Ppfft.
He played 26 matches whilst at Celtic over 4 years. He had half a season where he was in the team. A goal against Lyon does not a good footballer make. He's been dining out on could have beens ever since.
He had a great 15 minutes at the start of the second half the other night, but was atrocious apart from that.
Did Liam Miller run over your dog or something, Silk? Because if he didn't your vendetta against him is inexplicable.
He had a mixed game on Wednesday, though general perception I've heard is that people were generally impressed with him. He can pick some passes that Whelan, Andrews and Rowlands could only dream of, he's also more likely to make mistakes than them too so it's a mixed bag.
Overall I felt he justified his squad selection this week and I don't think any reasonable person could deny that.Murf, its not a vendetta against the guy. Its an effort to open peoples eyes to the fact he is not up to international standard. I have already said how much I hoped he would develop into a world beater. He hasn't and he won't so its time to leave him in Edinburgh where he belongs, where he is probably very happy. Your comment that he can make more passes but will also make more mistakes suggests your understanding of football is not what you think it is. Making lots of mistakes is something that is accepted at underage and reserve level, not at first class international level where one mistake can cost you a game which in turn could be the difference between qualifying for a WC or EC. He is 28 now, mistakes should not be regular occourences, he makes way too many. This is why Trap prefers players like Whelan and Andrews, they may not be very exciting but they are safe. Even calling up Rowlands backs that up, it seems to me that he felt he had no other choice but to select Miller, I wonder had McCann not been injured would he have been given a chance. There is almost always an unexpected call up to squads for major competitions so your belief that Garvan or McCarthy should not have been called up is also a little strange. The fact is Miller should be no where near the world cup, if there is an alternative such as McCarthy or Garvan. Even Andy Reid. Hopefully Steven Reid will be fit so we won't have to worry about Miller for SA.We're not building for the future, we're building for next month. Miller has been in the squad all along and right or wrong to begin with he's the correct option to be playing at this moment in the time since he has international experience and is familiar with trap's system. If you want to stand by and claim that in our final warmup for the most important game in 7 years that we should be handing debuts to 18 and 21 year old wigan and ipswich reserves, then fair enough. Don't complain when the people who know what their talking about have a chuckle at your expense.
Help something bit me!!!
Really happy for Liam Miller! This is for the guys that were sitting beside me at the last game who spent the entire game shouting abuse at Liam Miller...
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Hibernian's Liam Miller has been named as the Clydesdale Bank Premier League player of the month for October.
The Irish midfielder arrived at Easter Road in mid-September, having been released by English side QPR.
"I'm enjoying myself day in and day out which I hadn't done for a year," Miller told the SPL website.
"As long as I am happy here, I don't see why I shouldn't stay. I can definitely see myself being here for the long term."
In a successful month in which Hibernian were unbeaten in the league, Miller was on target for the first time as his team moved into second place by beating Aberdeen 2-0.
And after an unsettled period, where he played for five clubs in as many years, the Republic of Ireland international says he is fitting in well with his new Hibs team-mates.
"I have found it really welcoming here and I felt straight away I'd made the right decision," said Miller.
"We have a really good bunch of lads and a lot of characters in the team.
"We are getting the right results on the pitch and we are training really hard and it's paying off. "
Hibernian and the SPL are Liam Miller's level.
Fair play to the lad on winning player of the month, but imo he still is nowhere near good enough for International football and i would prefer if he was not in the squad.
boooooooooooooooooo!!! go away with your negativity
Thats not negativity, its the truth. Fair play to the guy for winning an award, but he is not international class anymore.
Help something bit me!!!
You would have to say it probably has a lot more to do with the standard of football in the SPL rather than a Liam Miller renaissance!
I watched the Hearts-Hibs game to see how Miller and Stokes were doing, and the commentators were going on and on about Miller, and how lucky Hibs were to have signed a player of his quality.
I know they don't post here anyway!
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I watched the Edinburgh derby Saturday morning and Miller was very good. It may not be a particularly high standard but he was very workman like and good on the ball. I'm glad he is doing well anyway and long may it continue. I also felt he was Ireland's stand out player against Montenegro, especially in the first half. He seems to get a lot of soft frees given against him for some reason.
Last edited by DeLorean; 09/11/2009 at 1:52 PM.
Im sure he will be fantastic in edinbburgh....hope the guy has a great career in edinburgh, but edinburgh is as far as his career will go imo.
IMO he wont be having a great career at INTL level cos he is so far below INTL level, its shocking.
At the montengro game , i saw miller play some nice passes and had a spell for about 20 mins where he was good which was followed by a period where he looked lost in our midfield as the game past him by.For the remainder of the game he was shocking.
His career in england was a failure imo simply cos the standard was to high for him
Years Team Apps† (Gls)†
2000–2004 Celtic 26 (2)
2001 → AGF Aarhus (loan) 18 (0)
2004–2006 Manchester United 9 (0)
2005–2006 → Leeds United (loan) 28 (1)
2006–2009 Sunderland 57 (3)
2009 Queens Park Rangers 13 (0)
(Stats courtesy of good old wiki)
but thats just my opinion - i have nothing against the fella , this is not an anti liam miller forum as some have been suggesting, i (and others) just believe we have much better options in millers position and they should be given the chance for Ireland ahead of miller.
Last edited by back of the net; 09/11/2009 at 1:46 PM.
Whats very apparent from that is that he's never got a good run of games anywhere. He had one excellent season with celtic and arsed off to Man United where he never cut it, was always in and out of the Sunderland side thanks to Roy's ridiculous rotation policy and hopped around between Leeds and QPR in between.
He needs to settle in a side and get some consistent experience. The talent is there, we've all seen it in streaks but even at his age he has a lot of learning to do.
I'm just happy he's found a club and seems to be getting on well there. That's all.
well i wont disagree with u on that Delorean, the best of luck to the lad
Sat out training in Malahide today, muscle strain....
IF he pulls out of the squad, who will Trap call up?? (as opposed to who should he, as i think we have more or less a 100% consenus on that)
God only knows, but I reckon miller will be fine..
It is actually a good question, who is next in line if one of the center midfielders pull out... for the life of me I cant work it out since its wouldnt be Andy Reid I would think
Its really not that complicated!!!
It could well be S Reid..
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