Beecher Networks - Web Development, Hosting & Domains
Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast
Results 21 to 40 of 69

Thread: Squad for Cyprus?

  1. #21
    First Team Jicked's Avatar
    Joined
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    1,186
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    27
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    184
    Thanked in
    89 Posts
    Like I said, I don't think it's a great choice by any means. Still though, if it came down to it I'd rather a Miller without match fitness play instead of a debutant who's never been involved before. Either way, its unlikely that he'll be needed, thankfully.
    My guess is that Miller has a club lined up, will sign in the next couple of weeks, and then go back to being 5th choice CM and not in the squad (once S Reid returns). Obviously if he doesn't find a club then it's a different story and we'll need a new 5th choice as back-up.

  2. #22
    First Team
    Joined
    Jun 2005
    Posts
    2,467
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    118
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    190
    Thanked in
    131 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Jicked View Post
    Like I said, I don't think it's a great choice by any means. Still though, if it came down to it I'd rather a Miller without match fitness play instead of a debutant who's never been involved before. Either way, its unlikely that he'll be needed, thankfully.
    My guess is that Miller has a club lined up, will sign in the next couple of weeks, and then go back to being 5th choice CM and not in the squad (once S Reid returns). Obviously if he doesn't find a club then it's a different story and we'll need a new 5th choice as back-up.
    The question of who to throw on against Cyprus - Miller or a debutant is not the issue I have the most problems with it's that Miller will still be in the squad for the friendly against South Africa a perfect opportunity to try some new midfielders and look for solutions to solve undoubtedly our weakest position.

  3. #23
    First Team Jicked's Avatar
    Joined
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    1,186
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    27
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    184
    Thanked in
    89 Posts
    Well I'd rather the squad was built around the Cyprus game that could all but guarantee a play-off place for the first time in eight years.

  4. #24
    Reserves Denis The Red's Avatar
    Joined
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Limerick
    Posts
    263
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts
    Clinton Morrison should be considered, always gave a hundred per cent and is more experienced than say Folan. He's also in great form.
    Have to agree with youngirish:

    Quote Originally Posted by youngirish View Post
    He's listening to the likes of Brady and Givens too much I believe, 2 clueless mongs.
    I don't think Trap is doing his homework as far as picking the right players for the right job and is getting bad advice.
    I wouldn't be one to disrupt a settle squad so late into the campaign but to persist with Miller is a mystery.
    Esse Quam Videri

  5. #25
    First Team Jicked's Avatar
    Joined
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    1,186
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    27
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    184
    Thanked in
    89 Posts
    Folan was superb for us in Italy, has just got even more game time with Robbie under his belt, and has started the last two games in the Premier League.
    Morisson scored 10 league goals playing up front all season for Coventry.
    But since he scored a brace on the telly on opening day you think he'd be a better option Another thing worth considering, imagine what it would do to confidence/squad morale if you were to drop Folan for someone like Morisson. Then in the new year when Morisson has stopped scoring dropping him for Jon Macken who got a goal in a televised FA Cup 3rd round game.

    You could argue that you should put Morisson in for Best (though personally I'd much rather Best in the squad), but then people would be whinging about Trap not developing new players. No?

  6. #26
    Seasoned Pro Crosby87's Avatar
    Joined
    Aug 2008
    Location
    New York City
    Posts
    3,767
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    307
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    595
    Thanked in
    417 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Jicked View Post
    Folan was superb for us in Italy,
    I agree that he has to be picked but superb? Come on. He was OK.
    No Somos muchos pero estamos locos.

  7. #27
    Seasoned Pro irishfan86's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts
    2,638
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    590
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    354
    Thanked in
    253 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Crosby87 View Post
    I agree that he has to be picked but superb? Come on. He was OK.
    He won every ball in the air and absolutely bullied Italy's centre-halfs. His hold up play was excellent as well, and helped us hold possession in the final third.

    Before he came on, we never looked like threatening, and if you're going to point at one player who changed the game in our favour that night in Bari, it was big Caleb.

  8. #28
    First Team MeathDrog's Avatar
    Joined
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    1,331
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    435
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    173
    Thanked in
    100 Posts
    I have a bad feeling that the pendulum is going to turn against Trappatoni after the Cyprus game.
    You've got no fans.

  9. #29
    First Team Jicked's Avatar
    Joined
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    1,186
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    27
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    184
    Thanked in
    89 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by MeathDrog View Post
    I have a bad feeling that the pendulum is going to turn against Trappatoni after the Cyprus game.
    I've a good feeling we'll go to Cyprus, scrap out a dour 1-0 or 2-1 win and have people bemoan that result, style of football and the fact Shane Lowry made his first team debut for Aston Villa recently and what the hell is Trap doing not building around him, he's probably brilliant.
    Meanwhile we'll be three points closer to the play-offs.

  10. #30
    First Team MeathDrog's Avatar
    Joined
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    1,331
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    435
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    173
    Thanked in
    100 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Jicked View Post
    I've a good feeling we'll go to Cyprus, scrap out a dour 1-0 or 2-1 win and have people bemoan that result, style of football and the fact Shane Lowry made his first team debut for Aston Villa recently and what the hell is Trap doing not building around him, he's probably brilliant.
    Meanwhile we'll be three points closer to the play-offs.
    I'm not so sure. I'd love to be though. The Australia game was a massive shock to me. I know it was a meaningless friendly and all that, but that doesn't mean that basics have to go ot the window.


    3 points against Cyprus is a must. However we do it. I just feel that Trap isn't helping himself with his squad selections.
    You've got no fans.

  11. #31
    First Team Jicked's Avatar
    Joined
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    1,186
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    27
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    184
    Thanked in
    89 Posts
    We're too defensive and boring, yet Miller should be dropped for flamboyant players like Lee Carsley.
    Trap never takes a risk on young players, yet Morisson should be in ahead of Best.
    We need more experience, get Stephen Carr in for Foley.
    Whoever's not in the squad is the answer, St Ledger out, O'Dea in.
    etc. etc. etc.

    When listening to Irish fans talk about squad selection I'm always reminded of the immortal words of Roger Myers Jr: "So, you want a realistic, down-to-earth show... that's completely off-the-wall and swarming with magic robots?

  12. #32
    First Team Jicked's Avatar
    Joined
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    1,186
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    27
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    184
    Thanked in
    89 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by MeathDrog View Post
    I'm not so sure. I'd love to be though. The Australia game was a massive shock to me. I know it was a meaningless friendly and all that, but that doesn't mean that basics have to go ot the window.


    3 points against Cyprus is a must. However we do it. I just feel that Trap isn't helping himself with his squad selections.
    I think the Australian friendly was a little closer to Staunton's Sweden friendly then the friendly against Netherlands.

    Our whole style of play at the moment is not going to suit a friendly like that where half fit players don't really have any reason to bust a gut in midfield like they would, and have done, in places like Sofia, Bari and Podgorica.

  13. #33
    Coach tetsujin1979's Avatar
    Joined
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Dublin, originally from Limerick
    Posts
    23,254
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,127
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    5,292
    Thanked in
    3,501 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Jicked View Post
    I think the Australian friendly was a little closer to Staunton's Sweden friendly then the friendly against Netherlands.
    How exactly? We beat Sweden and got played off the field by the Netherlands
    All goals, yellow and red cards tweeted in real time on mastodon, BlueSky and facebook

  14. #34
    First Team Jicked's Avatar
    Joined
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    1,186
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    27
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    184
    Thanked in
    89 Posts
    From the point of view of Sweden being completely unrepresentative of where that team was, whilst the Netherlands game was a little more like what would have happened if we had to play Netherlands in a competitive game/an ominous glimpse of what would ultimately happen under Staunton.

  15. #35
    First Team L37Ultra's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Limerick
    Posts
    2,044
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    2
    Thanked in
    2 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Crosby87 View Post
    I agree that he has to be picked but superb? Come on. He was OK.
    Come on he was more than okay in fairness. He changed the game when he came on resulting on.
    For all the latest League of Ireland news visit www.extratime.ie

  16. #36
    First Team MeathDrog's Avatar
    Joined
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    1,331
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    435
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    173
    Thanked in
    100 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Jicked View Post
    I think the Australian friendly was a little closer to Staunton's Sweden friendly then the friendly against Netherlands.

    Our whole style of play at the moment is not going to suit a friendly like that where half fit players don't really have any reason to bust a gut in midfield like they would, and have done, in places like Sofia, Bari and Podgorica.
    True, but it is important to remember that we are actually in a very poor group, proably the easiest one we've ever been in. I would expect us to be challenging for 1st, no matter who the manager is (Ok, maybe with the exception of Stan). Trappatoni's reign seems conveniently timed.
    You've got no fans.

  17. #37
    Youth Team
    Joined
    May 2008
    Posts
    141
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    3
    Thanked in
    2 Posts
    anyone else think we should be looking for a replacement for kilbane he has been brutal in the last 3games and no one can deny that..nolans natural position is centre back and has been played on the right for club?? so technically we have no decent replacement for lb other than o shea..i know all the people on this site love him but kilbane is a liability at this stage and has shown as much in his recent games so we should seriously look into dropping him as every team is going to target him

  18. #38
    Seasoned Pro irishfan86's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts
    2,638
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    590
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    354
    Thanked in
    253 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Wexford Delboy View Post
    anyone else think we should be looking for a replacement for kilbane he has been brutal in the last 3games and no one can deny that..nolans natural position is centre back and has been played on the right for club?? so technically we have no decent replacement for lb other than o shea..i know all the people on this site love him but kilbane is a liability at this stage and has shown as much in his recent games so we should seriously look into dropping him as every team is going to target him
    Nolan was the starting left-full for Preston during the second-half of last season, so while he is right-footed (as John O'Shea is), he does have experience in that position.

    I think Ward at Wolves is the logical choice to try out at some stage, and the South Africa friendly would have been an ideal time to test him out.

  19. #39
    Formerly: vega007 Colbert Report's Avatar
    Joined
    Jan 2007
    Location
    California, USA
    Posts
    2,958
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,183
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    216
    Thanked in
    167 Posts
    We simply don't have a left back available. Kilbane is a better option than O'Shea because we don't have anyone to cover for O'Shea at right back with McShane out for three months.

  20. #40
    Seasoned Pro irishfan86's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts
    2,638
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    590
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    354
    Thanked in
    253 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Colbert Report View Post
    We simply don't have a left back available. Kilbane is a better option than O'Shea because we don't have anyone to cover for O'Shea at right back with McShane out for three months.
    Ward is a left-back for Wolves, and could be an option.

    At right-full we do have options worth considering (all of which are superior players to McShane at right-full in any event): Nolan, Kelly, Wilson, Foley (possibly will miss Cyprus through injury), Carr (retired, but if he felt he had another shot to get into a World Cup Squad I think he'd answer the call), Delap (plays midfield for Stoke but played a good chunk of his career at right-full).

Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Squad for Cyprus
    By Wheels in forum Ireland
    Replies: 63
    Last Post: 10/10/2008, 1:10 PM
  2. Squad for Cyprus game announced.
    By Qwerty in forum Ireland
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 07/10/2008, 10:51 PM
  3. Squad for Cyprus & Switzerland
    By pete in forum Ireland
    Replies: 44
    Last Post: 29/09/2005, 4:36 PM
  4. THE Squad for Cyprus and Switzerland Thread
    By Fr. Murphy in forum Ireland
    Replies: 37
    Last Post: 26/08/2004, 9:00 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •