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  • CSAD
    Banned
    • Sep 2020
    • 1016

    #2461
    Originally posted by sadloserkid
    I'm not a Rovers fan.

    What did having a go in Europe do for the other clubs this year? How are they doing in the group stage?

    They are in the group stages. This is unusual for an Irish club. Every other club in the league has achieved less than them in Europe this year and would love to be in their position.

    You're like a dog with a bone. It's fascinating.

    Couldn?t get there because they had a tougher route to qualification? Look who Rovers actually had to beat to get to the conference league, the fact they make it out to be some achievement just sums up their lack of ambition.

    It?s not unusual, Dundalk did afew years ago remember?

    What is unusual is for an Irish team as bad as this Rovers side be in Europe, they really are an embarrassment to the league. The losses I wouldn?t be worried by if they at least tried to be competitive but they really just aren?t bothered. It would be less bad if they were playing decent sides but the 3 sides they are playing really aren?t very good, of course Rovers make any side look good in Europe with how terrible they are but in actuality they really arent.

    Every other team in Europe from Ireland had much tougher fixtures in Europe and yes they would love to be in Europe and would show far more respect than Rovers would have.

    Because every single argument you make always is just a deflection, so much so that I need to repeat it and hope it reaches into you?re brain some how unless you just don?t have a functioning one?

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    • ger121
      Seasoned Pro
      • Sep 2003
      • 3973

      #2462
      CSAD Man, go smoke a joint or have a beer or whatever it is you like to do to chill but you seriously got to relax. It?s just a football forum full of ageing dudes, who still get their kicks from talking balls on a football platform, like it is still the noughties. It really is not worth getting that worked up over.

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      • CSAD
        Banned
        • Sep 2020
        • 1016

        #2463
        Originally posted by ger121
        CSAD Man, go smoke a joint or have a beer or whatever it is you like to do to chill but you seriously got to relax. It?s just a football forum full of ageing dudes, who still get their kicks from talking balls on a football platform, like it is still the noughties. It really is not worth getting that worked up over.
        I can tell it?s aging dudes based on the lack of understanding of basic information.

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        • Nah Nah Nah Nah
          Seasoned Pro
          • Jul 2008
          • 3092

          #2464
          Originally posted by ger121
          What about Keena? Yes he is in contract but that has not stopped Sligo selling in the past for the right fee. You need a finisher and he has done very well this season in the league. Only 23 and 18 goals across all competitions. Is he worth splashing the cash vs the potential rewards from Europe?
          During our game a couple of weeks ago all the Shams players were encouraging him to move to the dark side. I do think he would be very good there. Release clause is only for English clubs.

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          • Shinkicker
            Reserves
            • Feb 2022
            • 747

            #2465
            I'd rather go with the UEFA's description of Rovers this week as "the undisputed giants of the Irish game."

            I agree, Yes they are the undisputed Giants of the Irish game but remember.
            In Ireland Rovers are a big fish in a small pond and in Europe they are a very small fish in a big pond. It will be like this for Irish clubs for another 2-3 years at least. We just don't have the quality but it is getting better year on year. I always wish all Irish clubs well when they play in Europe and look forward to when we can really compete.

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            • Real ale Madrid
              The Cheeto God
              • Oct 2002
              • 4102

              #2466
              Admin note : I know the speed of moderation doesn't keep up with some of the nonsense but please don't stoop to level of some posters in retaliation. Use the report function please.

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              • Shinkicker
                Reserves
                • Feb 2022
                • 747

                #2467
                Originally posted by CSAD
                And there you go again deflecting from the point of the discussion, I?ll try repeating to make sure that little brain of your?s is working properly?Winning in the league with this squad is NOT and achievement, it?s to be expected. Winning against Hibernians and Shkupi is NOT an achievement it?s to be expected. The only reason you make it out to be an achievement is because you set the bar so low that it?s considered an achievement.

                This would be accurate if Dundalk during their 2 seasons in Europe also were as bad but they were far better against far better opposition. You don?t need quality, the teams you are playing against aren?t very good, this Rovers team is just incapable of competing against anyone who is in any way half decent. It?s easy against teams like Shkupi and Hibernians.

                Is it getting better, this Rovers team is by far the worst Irish team ever to compete in Europe.

                You will never be competing when Bradley as the manager, you?ll compete against teams you should be beating and get beat by any side that is similar or a higher level. This side with Bradley is so laughably bad coaching wise that any half decent or average side will take them apart.
                I think you have missed something. I didn't deflect from anything. I replied to a previous post. The first paragraph was from that post. My post said Rovers are a big fish in a small pond while in Europe they are a very small fish in a big pond. You just ranted it using different words and jargon.
                Rovers have certainly not done well in Europe in fact it was abysmal but I do still believe in 2-3 years an Irish team will break through and do well in Europe and I'm not saying winning a trophy I'm clearly saying doing well scoring goals and winning matches in the group stages.
                As for my small brain, we'll even I know you should be standing in the corner wearing a pointed hat.

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                • CSAD
                  Banned
                  • Sep 2020
                  • 1016

                  #2468
                  Originally posted by Shinkicker
                  I think you have missed something. I didn't deflect from anything. I replied to a previous post. The first paragraph was from that post. My post said Rovers are a big fish in a small pond while in Europe they are a very small fish in a big pond. You just ranted it using different words and jargon.
                  Rovers have certainly not done well in Europe in fact it was abysmal but I do still believe in 2-3 years an Irish team will break through and do well in Europe and I'm not saying winning a trophy I'm clearly saying doing well scoring goals and winning matches in the group stages.
                  As for my small brain, we'll even I know you should be standing in the corner wearing a pointed hat.
                  I repeatedly say the issues are little to do with the league?

                  What do you pose as a defense - continue to use the league as a defense.

                  You?re one and only defense in Europe was immediately debunked by the fact Dundalk have 2 times been able to compete at an even higher level. When was the last time Rovers beat anyone of significance in a game that actually matter? Dundalk beat BATE,Maccabi, Sheriff etc?what result does Bradley have that?s even remotely comparable to this? Let me guess?beating Shkupi, Wowowowow stop the phone?.


                  And Dundalk were a small fish in an even bigger pond yet we?re never as utterly hopeless as this Rovers side is.

                  They?ve been beyond abysmal, embarrassment/disgrace would be a better word to use. True and that side won?t be a Stephen Bradley managed Rovers side, either they?ll finally get common sense and sack him or another team breaks through. And that was all achieved already by Dundalk if you remember, scored in 5 out of 6 games in the EL last year and managed RO compete against AZ ,Maccabi & Zenit in 2016. That?s the bench mark.

                  You don?t seem understand basic English from my posts that even a JC student would know which makes me question you?re brain size or knowledge in general.

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                  • A N Mouse
                    Reserves
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 877

                    #2469
                    Originally posted by CSAD
                    2011 numb nuts.
                    Aw, you got me bang to rights using your tactics, I mean talking through me hoop authoritatively. But congratulations, you read the post, replied, with a fact no less and it was even pertinent.

                    Now hypothetical speaking would 2011 rovers or 2016 Dundalk have been as expansive and brilliant 🙄 in Europe if they had to play all their group games before the end of the league season? Or would pragmatism have become fashionable?




                    2011, was that the year of that Norwegian documentary about your kind? That was a good show, I think I put it in the recommended watch thread at the time. Maybe it was 2010...

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                    • CSAD
                      Banned
                      • Sep 2020
                      • 1016

                      #2470
                      Originally posted by A N Mouse
                      Aw, you got me bang to rights using your tactics, I mean talking through me hoop authoritatively. But congratulations, you read the post, replied, with a fact no less and it was even pertinent.

                      Now hypothetical speaking would 2011 rovers or 2016 Dundalk have been as expansive and brilliant 🙄 in Europe if they had to play all their group games before the end of the league season? Or would pragmatism have become fashionable?




                      2011, was that the year of that Norwegian documentary about your kind? That was a good show, I think I put it in the recommended watch thread at the time. Maybe it was 2010...
                      No tactics just using Wikipedia, which maybe you being an old timer maybe haven?t heard of.

                      Yes they would have because they actually had a good manager.

                      What are you even talking about anymore, wise up for once on this forum.

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                      • CSAD
                        Banned
                        • Sep 2020
                        • 1016

                        #2471
                        Originally posted by Real ale Madrid
                        Admin note : I know the speed of moderation doesn't keep up with some of the nonsense but please don't stoop to level of some posters in retaliation. Use the report function please.
                        How come you weren?t as quick to act when someone called me a R-tard on here?

                        Is that just an acceptable word to use in you?re world, or are you just selective on who you police on here?

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                        • Shinkicker
                          Reserves
                          • Feb 2022
                          • 747

                          #2472
                          Originally posted by CSAD
                          I repeatedly say the issues are little to do with the league?

                          What do you pose as a defense - continue to use the league as a defense.

                          You?re one and only defense in Europe was immediately debunked by the fact Dundalk have 2 times been able to compete at an even higher level. When was the last time Rovers beat anyone of significance in a game that actually matter? Dundalk beat BATE,Maccabi, Sheriff etc?what result does Bradley have that?s even remotely comparable to this? Let me guess?beating Shkupi, Wowowowow stop the phone?.


                          And Dundalk were a small fish in an even bigger pond yet we?re never as utterly hopeless as this Rovers side is.

                          They?ve been beyond abysmal, embarrassment/disgrace would be a better word to use. True and that side won?t be a Stephen Bradley managed Rovers side, either they?ll finally get common sense and sack him or another team breaks through. And that was all achieved already by Dundalk if you remember, scored in 5 out of 6 games in the EL last year and managed RO compete against AZ ,Maccabi & Zenit in 2016. That?s the bench mark.

                          You don?t seem understand basic English from my posts that even a JC student would know which makes me question you?re brain size or knowledge in general.
                          I never said or implied it would be Rovers who make the breakthrough in Europe. You seem to have a loathing hatred for Rovers so now I hope they do. It'll sicken your ar*e. From your tone and you belief you are a higher authority to everyone I would assume you operate on this forum under two names??

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                          • CSAD
                            Banned
                            • Sep 2020
                            • 1016

                            #2473
                            Originally posted by Shinkicker
                            I never said or implied it would be Rovers who make the breakthrough in Europe. You seem to have a loathing hatred for Rovers so now I hope they do. It'll sicken your ar*e. From your tone and you belief you are a higher authority to everyone I would assume you operate on this forum under two names??
                            Oh Rovers definitely won?t be, Nope I have a loathe hatred for teams that accept mediocrity and have no ambition. And I wouldn?t hope if I was you, you?re going to be disappointed and arse will be fine.

                            Nope wrong and not for the first time.

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                            • Real ale Madrid
                              The Cheeto God
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 4102

                              #2474
                              Originally posted by CSAD
                              How come you weren?t as quick to act when someone called me a R-tard on here?

                              Is that just an acceptable word to use in you?re world, or are you just selective on who you police on here?
                              As I said if you have an issue, report and it will be dealt with. I don't read every single post.

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                              • CorribsideSteve
                                Reserves
                                • Jul 2017
                                • 976

                                #2475
                                The frustration from some posters over Shamrock Rover's conference league campaign so far is somewhat justified. There's a feeling that they are just going out for a run around, knowing they'l get beaten, and it's handy money anyway. That's not going to capture the imagination of the wider public. To that, SRFC fans would rightly say "So what. Winning the league gets us back there". But if they are as toothless and hapless in next years EL/ECL group stages, should they get there, being just happy to take the cheque and lose, it will hardly be a surprise if people aren't praising them from the rooftops for their anaemic displays. Now, it's possibly been forgotten and glossed over,even, that SRFC actually do have a point in the group so far, and it represents their first-earned point in a group stage competition. So that IS progress. But Dundalk EL 2016 were 10 times more fun to watch, and they really tried, whereas I feel SRFC have not tried, not really. Maybe that is apples and oranges by comparison but they shoud have had more ambition this year than "Ah well, sure we were going to lose anyway." as happened away to Molde. Also, it's distasteful that some posters are accusing each other of being egregious embeciles, and it would be nice to be fair and frank on here without personal jibes being involved.
                                Last edited by CorribsideSteve; 15/10/2022, 12:37 PM.

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