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  • liamoo11
    Seasoned Pro
    • Oct 2010
    • 3115

    #3241
    Originally posted by SkStu
    The win probably gives Carsley his pick of jobs next, even if he was blessed with an exceptional crop of youngsters. I’d say nearly guaranteed a shot if Southgate was to leave plus he’ll have a host of decent clubs interested in him if he wants to step into club management. I don’t think the Ireland senior role would be high on his list now.
    I wonder. He didn't go wrapping himself in the union Jack or kissing the crest afterwards . Hopefully if he doesn't take our job he gets a good championship job and builds a good career

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    • JR89
      First Team
      • Sep 2021
      • 2406

      #3242
      Originally posted by tommy_c12000
      Would be nice to offer Carsley the job now, it’s a nice juncture, may not be available when Kenny inevitably leaves at the end of the 2024 qualifying campaign. I doubt if it will happen
      More chance of him being the next England manager rather than Ireland manager.

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      • pineapple stu
        Biased against YOUR club
        • Aug 2002
        • 40783

        #3243
        The Mail reporting he's in line for a new contract as 21s boss while we're also interested.

        Read into that bit of football gossip what you will of course

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        • lofty9
          First Team
          • Jul 2005
          • 1210

          #3244
          Originally posted by JR89
          More chance of him being the next England manager rather than Ireland manager.

          This. The FA will use the same succession plan as they did with Southgate. With the tools at his exposure he's not stupid enough to end his career by taking on the Ireland job.
          As Irishmen we dilute our sense of nation by depending on the English to bring us our balls

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          • pixiehead
            Reserves
            • Apr 2005
            • 966

            #3245
            Originally posted by lofty9
            This. The FA will use the same succession plan as they did with Southgate. With the tools at his exposure he's not stupid enough to end his career by taking on the Ireland job.
            I doubt they'd want Carsley to take over as caretaker followed by a permanent appointment after Southgate or his successor get caught up in a scandal.

            They've offered Carsley a contract extension. It wouldn't be a bad move to take the offer with a premier league get out clause,surely there'll be a job available before Christmas.
            😊

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            • zero
              First Team
              • May 2002
              • 1061

              #3246
              Originally posted by pixiehead
              I doubt they'd want Carsley to take over as caretaker followed by a permanent appointment after Southgate or his successor get caught up in a scandal.

              They've offered Carsley a contract extension. It wouldn't be a bad move to take the offer with a premier league get out clause,surely there'll be a job available before Christmas.
              can't see a prem side going for him - the risk is just too high at that level. a mid table / struggling championship side is likely his best bet.

              unless he prefers the idea of the Ireland job, which he may. both are completely different proposition to working with a squad with numerous elite players at the u21 level.

              i dont think they conceded a goal all tournament though which is impressive. we should be keeping a lot more clean sheets than we do given the players at our disposal.

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              • SkStu
                Capped Player
                • Feb 2007
                • 14863

                #3247
                Carsley set for talks with the FA about his future.

                Lee Carsley is set for talks with the Football Association about his future after leading England Under-21s to European Championship success.


                Manager Carsley was appointed in July 2021 and is believed to be undecided about whether to carry on in the role.

                Carsley is on a rolling one-year contract and is understood to have been approached by clubs during his tenure as under-21s manager.
                I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.

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                • tommy_c12000
                  First Team
                  • May 2008
                  • 2100

                  #3248
                  Carsley has been very methodical so far in his career, progressing slowly with carefully selecting jobs, not getting out of his depth too soon, natural step up is senior international football which will have a better quality of life vs his other probable option championship club management. He has always prioritized his family and that extra time will be important to him, so I would not think it’s beyond the bounds of possibility. The main problem I see is the FAI being unable to make a prompt bold decision with their current committee / red tape set up. I guess there were some benefits of the “good old days..”
                  Last edited by tommy_c12000; 09/07/2023, 11:09 PM.

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                  • liamoo11
                    Seasoned Pro
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 3115

                    #3249
                    With it looking like Vera Paew is not going to get a new contract despite qualifying for the first World Cup and performing I felt well against 2 very strong nations stephen Kenny can consider himself fortunate the expectations of him are not as great as of Vera

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                    • seanfhear
                      Banned
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 5452

                      #3250
                      Originally posted by liamoo11
                      With it looking like Vera Paew is not going to get a new contract despite qualifying for the first World Cup and performing I felt well against 2 very strong nations stephen Kenny can consider himself fortunate the expectations of him are not as great as of Vera
                      You'd wonder which way the FAI is veering alright ? !

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                      • EalingGreen
                        Seasoned Pro
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 3719

                        #3251
                        Originally posted by seanfhear
                        You'd wonder which way the FAI is veering alright ? !
                        Unless they're thinking of replacing Kenny with Vera?

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                        • Colbert Report
                          Formerly: vega007
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 2989

                          #3252
                          Originally posted by liamoo11
                          With it looking like Vera Paew is not going to get a new contract despite qualifying for the first World Cup and performing I felt well against 2 very strong nations stephen Kenny can consider himself fortunate the expectations of him are not as great as of Vera
                          We were beaten twice and are likely to lose to Nigeria. As I said in this thread before the tournament, the FAI should have had the guts to sack the manager when the details of her bullying scandal came out.

                          Stephen Kenny is not a bully, he's a really nice guy. He has a terrible group of players to pick from, and I feel badly for him. If he had a Roy Keane or a Damien Duff, things may have gone differently for him. What frustrates me is that he insists on playing the game "the right way" when we don't have the players to do that right now. What frustrates me even more is how he's been afforded such a long leash due to the fact that League of Ireland supporters seem so fanatical in their support of him. He can do no wrong in their eyes, yet he's doing so much damage.

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                          • Eirambler
                            International Prospect
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 5046

                            #3253
                            If Pauw goes after qualifying for the World Cup then there can be no more rope for Kenny. Doesn't matter how nice a guy he's supposed to be, all he's doing is proving the theory that nice guys come last.

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                            • third policeman
                              First Team
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 1208

                              #3254
                              Originally posted by Colbert Report
                              We were beaten twice and are likely to lose to Nigeria. As I said in this thread before the tournament, the FAI should have had the guts to sack the manager when the details of her bullying scandal came out.

                              Stephen Kenny is not a bully, he's a really nice guy. He has a terrible group of players to pick from, and I feel badly for him. If he had a Roy Keane or a Damien Duff, things may have gone differently for him. What frustrates me is that he insists on playing the game "the right way" when we don't have the players to do that right now. What frustrates me even more is how he's been afforded such a long leash due to the fact that League of Ireland supporters seem so fanatical in their support of him. He can do no wrong in their eyes, yet he's doing so much damage.
                              ‘Terrible group of players’ - Was reading about PL interest in Smallbone, and it’s possible he could actually field a team of PL players next season. This isn’t the greatest ever Irish squad, but is it as bad as some pundits and Kenny supported like to suggest?

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                              • pineapple stu
                                Biased against YOUR club
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 40783

                                #3255
                                I think it's as bad as we've ever had but not as bad as results are showing

                                What's the team of Premier players?

                                Kelleher
                                Doherty... Collins... O'Shea...Egan...Coleman
                                Cullen...Smallbone (if he gets a transfer)... Hendrick
                                Ferguson...Ogbene...Obafemi

                                Most of them will be in relegation battles if they get gametime at all. It's a small step in the right direction but we've a lot of improving to do yet
                                Last edited by pineapple stu; 30/07/2023, 5:10 PM.

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