Martin O'Neill and Roy Keane

[osarusan]

If the rumours are true, I'm genuinely surprised that an EPL team would be looking to hire him.

He certainly has experience, but over the past few years, I don't think he has much to show he would do a good job at that level.

I would not be bothered if he did leave, as I don't think he is a manager that changes style, and the style he plays with us is not one that gets us good enough results at home.

[jbyrne]

I would not be bothered if he did leave, as I don't think he is a manager that changes style, and the style he plays with us is not one that gets us good enough results at home.

but certainly a style that gets us big results away from home, a euro 16 qualification and the wc play offs from being 4th seeds in the group.
the wins against italy, germany, wales away, Austria away in his two campaigns so far cant just be dismissed

[osarusan]

but certainly a style that gets us big results away from home, a euro 16 qualification and the wc play offs from being 4th seeds in the group.
the wins against italy, germany, wales away, Austria away in his two campaigns so far cant just be dismissed

I didn't dismiss them, I specified that the problem is at home. We are actually set up very well away to the top teams.

We are very good at playing deep and frustrating attacking opposition. But pretty much every other style of play is a problem.

[NeverFeltBetter]

For the best I feel. His final game leaves a terrible black mark, but O'Neill's tenure was a success. That being said, we have a habit of holding onto managers one campaign too many, and I have a feeling Euro 2020 qualifying would have been that for these two.

As for Stoke, get the impression they want a steady pair of hands to avoid relegation. O'Neill and Keane will provide that.

[seanfhear]

Has O’Neill been as good a manager when he has not had John Robertson as his main Coach / Tactician .

A assistant of that quality is not easy to find .

[seanfhear]

You’d think Michael O’ Neill would be a better choice for Stoke ....Younger and Hungrier . He has done an outstanding job for Northern Ireland .

[Gather round]

Michael's entire managerial record is in either part-time club football or as a part-time international manager. I predict he'll never manage in the EPL or even ECL

[seanfhear]

Michael's entire managerial record is in either part-time club football or as a part-time international manager. I predict he'll never manage in the EPL or even ECL

Obviously you want to keep him but running down his achievements as Northern Ireland manager is a bit dodgy .

He basically achieved a miracle with Northern Ireland . He would certainly be well worth a go with a decent Championship side and perhaps with a lot of clubs in the bottom half of the premiership .

Some of the managers on the merry go round have had a lot less recent success than Michael O’ Neill .

Arguably Martin O Neill should have done better than Michael with what some would consider a somewhat ( in my opinion not much better ) better Republic Squad .

[Stuttgart88]

For the best I feel. His final game leaves a terrible black mark, but O'Neill's tenure was a success. That being said, we have a habit of holding onto managers one campaign too many, and I have a feeling Euro 2020 qualifying would have been that for these two.

As for Stoke, get the impression they want a steady pair of hands to avoid relegation. O'Neill and Keane will provide that.

I just saw something very similar on Twitter! You I presume? Or a copycat?

[NeverFeltBetter]

Ha, I'm afraid not, haven't been on Twitter in some time. A case of "Great minds..."

[Olé Olé]

It's being reported that Coates and Scholes are actually in Barcelona meeting Quique Sanchez Flores. Apparently they have offered him the job and 4m compensation to Espanyol.

Surely O'Neill's position is untenable if he's flirted with Stoke, ignoring the verbal agreement.

[Diggs246]

It's being reported that Coates and Scholes are actually in Barcelona meeting Quique Sanchez Flores. Apparently they have offered him the job and 4m compensation to Espanyol.

Surely O'Neill's position is untenable if he's flirted with Stoke, ignoring the verbal agreement.

I personally wanted Martin O'Neill to stay, but if I was a decision maker in the FAI, I would move to appoint a new manager. We cant have a guy who doesn't want to be there.

[osarusan]

Surely O'Neill's position is untenable if he's flirted with Stoke, ignoring the verbal agreement.

I don't really see why. It would all depend on who we could get to replace him I suppose.

If we're not able to attract a good manager to replace him, then I'd imagine a blind eye would be turned to his flirting with Stoke.

[OwlsFan]

Don't forget, as well, that we made it to the last 8 of the Euros in 1964.

The dominating narrative in Irish football for the past 30 years is is that we couldn't do anything until Jack came along and got us to play results oriented football. But it doesn't wash with reality.

It is a fact that we didn't qualify for anything until Jack came along. I don't think anyone said that "we didn't do anything" as I was in attendance at some great victories, not least 3-0 over the Soviet Union, 4-0 over Turkey and 3-2 over France but they all counted for nothing in the end. That is the reality no matter how much revisionist history some people might like to proffer. We had some great players but we never gained the holy grail of qualification.

As regards 1964, we beat Iceland in a qualifying round and Austria in the first qualifying round and lost to Spain (who has only squeaked past Northern Ireland in an earlier round) by a cricket score in the 2nd qualifying round. We didn't make the Finals. It also wasn't easy to qualify for Euro 88. Only one team qualified out of a group of 5 and we were the third or fourth seed. We also earned our right to play in Italia 90 with a 1-0 home win over Spain.

Martin O'Neill has presided over some of the greatest results in Irish football history (Germany away and home, Austria away, Wales away, Italy at the Euros) and secured one qualification. It's a great legacy results wise. We will have to agree to differ over the style of play which to me is immaterial even if Kingdom thinks it might affect people trying to coach kids. The international team is not about setting an example. It's about results, qualification and generating revenue for the FAI who in theory then put that money back in to the grassroots (coaches, kids etc).

Anyway, I still doubt if he will be leaving. Quique Sanchez Flores (all three of him) is the current odds on favourite.

[Kingdom]

It is a fact that we didn't qualify for anything until Jack came along. I don't think anyone said that "we didn't do anything" as I was in attendance at some great victories, not least 3-0 over the Soviet Union, 4-0 over Turkey and 3-2 over France but they all counted for nothing in the end.

........immediately discounts.......

Martin O'Neill has presided over some of the greatest results in Irish football history Austria away, Wales away It's a great legacy results wise.

.....this.

And as I said on another social media platform to give the man his absolute credit, he's probably achieved the best collection of results of any previous Irish manager. Unfortunately, the performances have been seriously bipolar.