Martin O'Neill and Roy Keane

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  • irishfan86
    Seasoned Pro
    • Sep 2004
    • 2680

    #1876
    If he goes it will be mixed feelings. The final match was a real letdown and I didn’t agree with all of his decisions. But if we’re being honest he didn’t have a great group of players to select from and the absences of Coleman & McCarthy for important matches in this campaign are in my view a larger reason for our failure to qualify than his tactics or team selections. If our aim is to qualify for Euro 2020 I would be confident that O’Neill is our best chance to do that. I think Roy adds some value to the setup but would have reservations of him being the main man given his temperament & unpredictability.
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    • OwlsFan
      Capped Player
      • Feb 2005
      • 10535

      #1877
      FAI confident that he'll be staying https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2017...-everton-link/
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      • DeLorean
        Capped Player
        • Jun 2008
        • 10894

        #1878
        A bit harsh on Pulis perhaps but something we can easily relate to - http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/s...re-463522.html

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        • DannyInvincible
          Capped Player
          • Sep 2006
          • 11521

          #1879
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          • DannyInvincible
            Capped Player
            • Sep 2006
            • 11521

            #1880
            Sam Allerdyce has signed an 18-month deal with Everton, so O'Neill won't be going there anyway: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42186164
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            • IsMiseSean
              First Team
              • Jul 2004
              • 1799

              #1881
              Never taught there was anything in the Everton link. I can't see any PL club wanting O'Neill.

              Chris Coleman's stock is/was probably higher than O'Neill's and he ended up at Sunderland.

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              • tetsujin1979
                Coach
                • Nov 2003
                • 23730

                #1882
                Originally posted by IsMiseSean
                Never taught there was anything in the Everton link. I can't see any PL club wanting O'Neill.

                Chris Coleman's stock is/was probably higher than O'Neill's and he ended up at Sunderland.
                Maybe after the Euros, but Coleman only got one point from two games against O'Neill in the qualifiers
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                • Charlie Darwin
                  Banned. Children Banned. Grandchildren Banned. 3 Months.
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 18576

                  #1883
                  Originally posted by IsMiseSean
                  Never taught there was anything in the Everton link.
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                  • zero
                    First Team
                    • May 2002
                    • 1061

                    #1884
                    o'neill linked with stoke.

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                    • DeLorean
                      Capped Player
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 10894

                      #1885
                      Gary Rowett, one of the main contenders, is expected to sign a new contract at Derby today to end that speculation.

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                      • Olé Olé
                        International Prospect
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 5475

                        #1886
                        Rowett has a great chance of a) promotion with Derby or b) getting a PL job in the summer. Stoke are probably at too much of a downward trajectory for a young manager to be taking a career risk like that.

                        However, they might present the perfect opportunity for someone like O'Neill to get back into club management if there's a few pound to spend given that they're 3 points from going from 20th to 12th (if none of the sides above them won a point).

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                        • Kingdom
                          International Prospect
                          • Sep 2004
                          • 5386

                          #1887
                          The only thing about the ONeill link that I would find dubious, is that Stoke specifically went away from that style of football by getting rid of Pulis.
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                          • Diggs246
                            Seasoned Pro
                            • Oct 2016
                            • 2709

                            #1888
                            I know we are all hurt after Denmark, but im I alone in thinking that O'Neill would have a really great chance if getting us to the Euros. Why risk someone who hasnt worked with our squad before.

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                            • DeLorean
                              Capped Player
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 10894

                              #1889
                              Especially when the 'someone' list is so underwhelming.

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                              • geysir
                                Capped Player
                                • Apr 2005
                                • 15392

                                #1890
                                Originally posted by Diggs246
                                I know we are all hurt after Denmark, but im I alone in thinking that O'Neill would have a really great chance if getting us to the Euros. Why risk someone who hasnt worked with our squad before.
                                I'd say there's a good bit of space at the bar in that 'O'Neill for Euro 2020' club. Despite the magnanimous 24/55 places on offer, our chances would greatly depend on the draw more than O'Neill's guile. I think it can be stated with confidence that Roy hasn't a scooby doo.
                                On O'Neill's side, it's fair to point out that he's had to work with the weakest team in decades (imo), with some players who struggled in their prime to hold a first team spot under Trap or well past their prime and Trap's was just a decent average team. I'm not one of those who revises opinions over O'Neill's good and sometimes excellent games and pass those fortunes down to luck or haphazard events, just to round off some agenda that he's a total relic. But there is an obvious lack of consistency in performance and results under O'Neill and with tactical deficits, so much so that risking another manager appointment has its lure.

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