Martin O'Neill and Roy Keane

[BonnieShels]

RTÉ reporting, that The Torygraph are reporting that Monkeano have been offered the job(s). I hope (t)he(y) take(s) it tbh. It's been a sham of a week.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018...ke-job-report/

and the source...


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/...neill-new/amp/

[Park_Lane]

RTÉ reporting, that The Torygraph are reporting that Monkeano have been offered the job(s). I hope (t)he(y) take(s) it tbh. It's been a sham of a week.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018...ke-job-report/

and the source...


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/...neill-new/amp/

Careful what you wish for. FAI(lure) are not going to pay compo for a new manager so we will be left with the prospect of Noel King caretaker manager until after summer

[BonnieShels]

I honestly don't mind that tbh.

I just think that the way this has played out has left a sour taste in the mouth. Bit like Mick after 2002. It's a case of "Know when to go".

[elroy]

Strange decision by MON and RK to attend that dinner given what’s going on and that it had been announced they wouldn’t be there. Presumably they were trying to indicate commitment to ROI which now looks very weak with Flores turning down offer.

General consensus in media now seems to be they have to go. Eyes turned. Oddly I think most fans are probably indifferent which reflects mood post Denmark shambles. Post Austria away one year earlier, majority of fans were very happy with set up. Hard to know best step now, a lot depends on who replacement would be. If MON stays, this and the DK games will loom largely over next campaign.

[Olé Olé]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/...mpression=true

Telegraph reporting MON has turned down Stoke...

[pineapple stu]

Careful what you wish for. FAI(lure) are not going to pay compo for a new manager so we will be left with the prospect of Noel King caretaker manager until after summer

I actually thought Noel King did alright last time (reasonably ok performance in Germany, all things considered, and a solid win over Kazakhstan)

But I think there's an overhaul of the squad required at the moment, and that requires getting a manager in place sooner rather than later, be that O'Neill or someone else.

[DannyInvincible]

I think it would have been best if he'd just gone. To enter serious negotiations for another job after his supposed commitment to the new contract was publicly confirmed by the FAI a few months back is farcical really. It suggests his interest in the job is half-hearted, which obviously isn't ideal. Moods have been low since Denmark - and I would have been happy to see someone else brought in after that anyway - but this episode will have done nothing to inspire some badly-needed confidence in O'Neill or positivity in general. It all feels a bit shabby.

[samhaydenjr]

Looks like he's staying: https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018...e-city-report/

[osarusan]

Am I the only one who doesn't see his near-departure as a serious issue?

So he was interested in a different job, but decided to stay...so what? Is there any suggestion that he (and Keane) will be any less focused on the Ireland job from now on?
I would imagine he was looking at potentially suitable club jobs as they became available throughout his tenure as Ireland manager anyway, I'd say most managers do.

[Diggs246]

Am I the only one who doesn't see his near-departure as a serious issue?

So he was interested in a different job, but decided to stay...so what? Is there any suggestion that he (and Keane) will be any less focused on the Ireland job from now on?
I would imagine he was looking at potentially suitable club jobs as they became available throughout his tenure as Ireland manager anyway, I'd say most managers do.

If someone doesnt want to be in a job and are actively looking around for s new job, that person tends to have their eye off the ball

[osarusan]

I don't really agree. I think it's possible for O'Neill to be just as 'on the ball' as he has been (and the extent of how on the ball he has been is open to debate, but for a different thread really).

I also don't think that his interest in the Stoke job necessarily means he doesn't want to be in this one.

[Olé Olé]

If someone doesnt want to be in a job and are actively looking around for s new job, that person tends to have their eye off the ball

Was he though? Was he actively looking around? I'm suspicious also but do you know what would be lovely? If Martin stopped playing silly beggars with the media (Friday at the awards, Tony O'Donoghue whenever possible) and clarified exactly what took place over the past week.

[geysir]

Nope, the one that qualified for the Euros winning nine games in a row, beating Russia, Montenegro and Sweden (4-1) away from home. Does that sound like a typical (or even successful) Irish qualification campaign?

After that promising qualification campaign for Euro 2016 they backslid with gusto. They performed very poorly at the Euro Finals and by the time we met them they were already 4th pot material, an overall standard which they didn't rise above in our group. We had a tougher Euro 2016 qual group than they had and we had performed better than them at the Euros.

[seanfhear]

If someone doesnt want to be in a job and are actively looking around for s new job, that person tends to have their eye off the ball

Particularly not what you want in a Football job .

[jbyrne]

If someone doesnt want to be in a job and are actively looking around for s new job, that person tends to have their eye off the ball

what evidence is there that mo'n went looking for the stoke, or any other, job?

what evidence is there that he doesnt want to be in the irish job?