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  • geysir
    Capped Player
    • Apr 2005
    • 15392

    #1771
    Some are getting hung up on the 2 nationality thing.
    To FIFA, the proposal seemed regular enough as we all look the same to them,
    2 teams in Ireland? - no big deal who play for what team.

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    • Predator
      First Team
      • Apr 2009
      • 1656

      #1772
      Originally posted by The Fly
      You stated that at present the IFA/NI can 'only select players on the basis of one nationality - British.' That's not the case, they select players who are dual nationals.
      It is the case and you have said so yourself. Dual nationals or not, only one of those nationalities entitles a player to play for the IFA.

      Originally posted by The Fly
      It would have been lunacy for the IFA to have agreed to such a proposal, for reasons I have already outlined. Had such a scenario come about, they would have sealed their own fate.
      It was lunacy to attempt to argue their case at the CAS in the way that they did, but that didn't stop them!
      End Apartheid Now! One Team in Ireland!

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      • geysir
        Capped Player
        • Apr 2005
        • 15392

        #1773
        Originally posted by The Fly
        You stated that at present the IFA/NI can 'only select players on the basis of one nationality - British.' That's not the case, they select players who are dual nationals.
        You are confused, Predator has gifted you some clarity - I hope you accept

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        • The Fly
          Seasoned Pro
          • Sep 2008
          • 2500

          #1774
          Originally posted by Predator
          It is the case and you have said so yourself. Dual nationals or not, only one of those nationalities entitles a player to play for the IFA.
          Correct, but the player is still a dual national.

          It was lunacy to attempt to argue their case at the CAS in the way that they did, but that didn't stop them!
          Indeed it was.

          But.....despite such an inept performance, and evidence of further incompetence and chicanery over those now infamous Dunloy proposals, I would stop short of pronouncing them completely brain dead.
          Last edited by The Fly; 01/10/2010, 6:11 PM.

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          • sean r
            Youth Team
            • Jun 2003
            • 133

            #1775
            maik taylor can play for northern ireland despite being born in germany. any one born out side of great britian with british parents can play for any of the 4 home countries. matt lessier and grame lasaux also used that rule as the channel islands are not part of the uk.

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            • Predator
              First Team
              • Apr 2009
              • 1656

              #1776
              Fly, I think you're spending too much time on OWC; you're picking up some bad habits from them.
              End Apartheid Now! One Team in Ireland!

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              • Charlie Darwin
                Banned. Children Banned. Grandchildren Banned. 3 Months.
                • Jan 2010
                • 18576

                #1777
                Originally posted by sean r
                maik taylor can play for northern ireland despite being born in germany. any one born out side of great britian with british parents can play for any of the 4 home countries. matt lessier and grame lasaux also used that rule as the channel islands are not part of the uk.
                That loophole has been closed. Maik Taylor would no longer be eligible for Northern Irelad and Le Saux/Le Tissier would only be eligible for England as the Channel Islands' associations are members of the English FA.

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                • The Fly
                  Seasoned Pro
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 2500

                  #1778
                  Originally posted by Predator
                  Fly, I think you're spending too much time on OWC; you're picking up some bad habits from them.
                  Never!! Never!! Never!!
                  Last edited by The Fly; 02/10/2010, 12:04 AM.

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                  • geysir
                    Capped Player
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 15392

                    #1779
                    UK passport holders are governed by the terms outlined in eligibility article 16.
                    That article is taken from the UK agreement of the 4 UK federations.

                    Le Tissier and Le Saux would qualify for England based on residency alone.

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                    • Charlie Darwin
                      Banned. Children Banned. Grandchildren Banned. 3 Months.
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 18576

                      #1780
                      But the Channel Islands aren't members of FIFA so they'd be subsumed into England.

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                      • The Fly
                        Seasoned Pro
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 2500

                        #1781
                        Originally posted by geysir
                        You are confused, Predator has gifted you some clarity - I hope you accept
                        T'was just a simple crossing of wires.
                        Last edited by The Fly; 01/10/2010, 7:14 PM.

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                        • geysir
                          Capped Player
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 15392

                          #1782
                          Originally posted by Charlie Darwin
                          But the Channel Islands aren't members of FIFA so they'd be subsumed into England.
                          Doesn't matter what federation the Channel Islands are connected to, as nationality is the key eligibility criteria.
                          The Channel Islands could be inside the French FA but it doesn't mean the players can play for France.

                          A Channel Islander is British and can chose which of the UK federation he wants, as long as he fulfills residency or some blood connection.

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                          • SkStu
                            Capped Player
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 14863

                            #1783
                            so, are we done here?
                            I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.

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                            • Charlie Darwin
                              Banned. Children Banned. Grandchildren Banned. 3 Months.
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 18576

                              #1784
                              Originally posted by geysir
                              Doesn't matter what federation the Channel Islands are connected to, as nationality is the key eligibility criteria.
                              The Channel Islands could be inside the French FA but it doesn't mean the players can play for France.

                              A Channel Islander is British and can chose which of the UK federation he wants, as long as he fulfills residency or some blood connection.
                              I bet you're wrong.

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                              • boovidge
                                First Team
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 1253

                                #1785
                                he's right, channel islanders can play for any of the home nations.



                                As a Channel Islander, he was eligible for any of the Home Nations teams. Electing to play for England, he earned eight caps over three years, but failed to score at international level.

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