Player eligibility row

[geysir]

Some are getting hung up on the 2 nationality thing.
To FIFA, the proposal seemed regular enough as we all look the same to them,
2 teams in Ireland? - no big deal who play for what team.

[Predator]

You stated that at present the IFA/NI can 'only select players on the basis of one nationality - British.' That's not the case, they select players who are dual nationals.

It is the case and you have said so yourself. Dual nationals or not, only one of those nationalities entitles a player to play for the IFA.

It would have been lunacy for the IFA to have agreed to such a proposal, for reasons I have already outlined. Had such a scenario come about, they would have sealed their own fate.

It was lunacy to attempt to argue their case at the CAS in the way that they did, but that didn't stop them!

[geysir]

You stated that at present the IFA/NI can 'only select players on the basis of one nationality - British.' That's not the case, they select players who are dual nationals.

You are confused, Predator has gifted you some clarity - I hope you accept

[The Fly]

It is the case and you have said so yourself. Dual nationals or not, only one of those nationalities entitles a player to play for the IFA.

Correct, but the player is still a dual national.

It was lunacy to attempt to argue their case at the CAS in the way that they did, but that didn't stop them!

Indeed it was.

But.....despite such an inept performance, and evidence of further incompetence and chicanery over those now infamous Dunloy proposals, I would stop short of pronouncing them completely brain dead.

[sean r]

maik taylor can play for northern ireland despite being born in germany. any one born out side of great britian with british parents can play for any of the 4 home countries. matt lessier and grame lasaux also used that rule as the channel islands are not part of the uk.

[Predator]

Fly, I think you're spending too much time on OWC; you're picking up some bad habits from them.

[Charlie Darwin]

maik taylor can play for northern ireland despite being born in germany. any one born out side of great britian with british parents can play for any of the 4 home countries. matt lessier and grame lasaux also used that rule as the channel islands are not part of the uk.

That loophole has been closed. Maik Taylor would no longer be eligible for Northern Irelad and Le Saux/Le Tissier would only be eligible for England as the Channel Islands' associations are members of the English FA.

[The Fly]

Fly, I think you're spending too much time on OWC; you're picking up some bad habits from them.

Never!! Never!! Never!!

[geysir]

UK passport holders are governed by the terms outlined in eligibility article 16.
That article is taken from the UK agreement of the 4 UK federations.

Le Tissier and Le Saux would qualify for England based on residency alone.

[Charlie Darwin]

But the Channel Islands aren't members of FIFA so they'd be subsumed into England.

[The Fly]

You are confused, Predator has gifted you some clarity - I hope you accept

T'was just a simple crossing of wires.

[geysir]

But the Channel Islands aren't members of FIFA so they'd be subsumed into England.

Doesn't matter what federation the Channel Islands are connected to, as nationality is the key eligibility criteria.
The Channel Islands could be inside the French FA but it doesn't mean the players can play for France.

A Channel Islander is British and can chose which of the UK federation he wants, as long as he fulfills residency or some blood connection.

[SkStu]

so, are we done here?

[Charlie Darwin]

Doesn't matter what federation the Channel Islands are connected to, as nationality is the key eligibility criteria.
The Channel Islands could be inside the French FA but it doesn't mean the players can play for France.

A Channel Islander is British and can chose which of the UK federation he wants, as long as he fulfills residency or some blood connection.

I bet you're wrong.

[boovidge]

he's right, channel islanders can play for any of the home nations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Le_Tissier#International_career

As a Channel Islander, he was eligible for any of the Home Nations teams. Electing to play for England, he earned eight caps over three years, but failed to score at international level.