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  • boovidge
    First Team
    • Jan 2008
    • 1253

    #1816
    It clearly is tasteless because of its child molestation "double entendre". I'm not offended or even bothered about it though.

    Back on topic (channel islands). Ireland "B" international Daryl Clare was born in Jersey according to wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daryl_Clare

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    • Lionel Ritchie
      Seasoned Pro
      • Nov 2003
      • 4329

      #1817
      Originally posted by Gather round
      As I've pointed out on this and similar threads, the reaction to the FAI picking Northern players (by both IFA and fans) looks hysterical, even vindictive. That said, the banner's just a gag, neither racist nor particularly tasteless. You're overreacting- and little point getting too upset, I reckon this may become the norm.
      I'd scarcely say I'm over-reacting. I just said it was in poor taste and I stand by that. I'd not bother getting too offended by it or anything -as you point out it's not racist (though I never alluded it was), it's a gag ...a kiddy-fiddler gag, and a 20' x 2' kiddy fiddler gag at that. I'd suggest raising yeer standard but I'd be affeared ye might just get another well dodgy banner done up. ;-)
      " I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"

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      • Dodge
        Now with extra sauce!
        • Jun 2001
        • 23528

        #1818
        Originally posted by Gather round
        Trevor Wood- from Jersey, one cap for NI in 1995.
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        • Gather round
          First Team
          • Apr 2006
          • 2045

          #1819
          Originally posted by Lionel Ritchie
          as you point out it's not racist (though I never alluded it was), it's a gag ...a kiddy-fiddler gag, and a 20' x 2' kiddy fiddler gag at that. I'd suggest raising yeer standard but I'd be affeared ye might just get another well dodgy banner done up. ;-)
          I believe the IFA said it was racist. But what do you expect from them, eh?

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          • youngirish
            First Team
            • Jun 2005
            • 2467

            #1820
            Originally posted by Gather round
            I believe the IFA said it was racist. But what do you expect from them, eh?
            I actually find it quite funny. Don't see anything in it that's even remotely offensive.

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            • Lionel Ritchie
              Seasoned Pro
              • Nov 2003
              • 4329

              #1821
              Originally posted by Gather round
              Of course, but as its purpose is mainly to get on TV and irritate RoI fans, it doesn't really matter whether it shows home or away.
              There's some evidence it's not reaching its target demographic -unless my reaction is to be considered a result.

              Originally posted by Charlie Darwin
              haha that's pretty good actually

              Hand of Prod was funnier though.
              Originally posted by youngirish
              I actually find it quite funny. Don't see anything in it that's even remotely offensive.
              Originally posted by Gather round
              I believe the IFA said it was racist. But what do you expect from them, eh?
              Really? Them IFA lads do come up with some bewildering rationale from time to time they really do.
              " I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"

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              • Gather round
                First Team
                • Apr 2006
                • 2045

                #1822
                Originally posted by Lionel Ritchie
                There's some evidence it's not reaching its target demographic -unless my reaction is to be considered a result
                Some people on the thread are irritated , some aren't. The IFA are, therefore it's a story in the local media. Which, in its small way, is a 'result'. They have certainly over-reacted even if you haven't, just the latest in a long line of misjudgements and admin inefficiency (for anyone still awake, they still haven't replied to my letter from the weekend of the CAS judgement asking them to justify going to law and how they planned to resolve the issue in future).
                Last edited by Gather round; 04/10/2010, 2:31 PM.

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                • geysir
                  Capped Player
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 15392

                  #1823
                  ??
                  The issue has been resolved and CAS have confirmed it.

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                  • Gather round
                    First Team
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 2045

                    #1824
                    Originally posted by geysir
                    ??
                    The issue has been resolved and CAS have confirmed it
                    The issue of the IFA's dealings with the FAI generally, and specifically what they do next time the FAI select a player with numerous NI U-21 or U-19 caps. I mean, if they simply intend to do nothing, they could have told us that back in August.

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                    • geysir
                      Capped Player
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 15392

                      #1825
                      It's the player who choses to offer himself for selection to the FAI.
                      What do you want the IFA to do, make a futile assertion of their ownership (croppies lie down)?
                      interfere with the kid's decision?

                      The FAI are not going to step back from the basic right of Irish people to play for what they regard as their representative team.
                      Nor did they ever renege on that right

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                      • Gather round
                        First Team
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 2045

                        #1826
                        Originally posted by geysir
                        It's the player who choses to offer himself for selection to the FAI. What do you want the IFA to do, make a futile assertion of their ownership (croppies lie down)? interfere with the kid's decision?

                        The FAI are not going to step back from the basic right of Irish people to play for what they regard as their representative team. Nor did they ever renege on that right
                        I want the IFA to keep gently pressing the FAI not to pick any players who've already played for NI teams as an adult. As I think you know.

                        What's with the Croppies Lie Down thing? Is it folkies night in the Akureyri Irish bar?

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                        • geysir
                          Capped Player
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 15392

                          #1827
                          Does everything have to be spelled out for you?
                          Croppy lie down - It's a reference to ownership 'our kids'

                          I thought you were wondering/expecting on how the IFA "planned to resolve the issue in future"
                          The issue has been resolved.
                          Re a separate issue on how do the IFA respond from here on in -
                          you offer "I want the IFA to keep gently pressing the FAI not to pick any players who've already played for NI teams as an adult"
                          Considering that the IFA have been raising hissy fits for years and the FAI have stood firm - I doubt gentle pressing will make any impression.
                          The IFA do not even understand the question.

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                          • Charlie Darwin
                            Banned. Children Banned. Grandchildren Banned. 3 Months.
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 18576

                            #1828
                            Why would anybody voluntarily decide not to pick players who've represented other countries at U19/21 level? The rule was specifically brought in to help small nations like ours.

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                            • Gather round
                              First Team
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 2045

                              #1829
                              Don't be like that, G. I know what Croppies lies down means- the worst sort of cliched, self-pitying mopery. It's obviously irrelevant to anything I've said, so why bring it up?

                              I'm less negative than you about the possibility of a small compromise in the IFA's favor. Which is all it is- doesn't stop anyone from playing for the team of their choice.

                              Sure, the IFA are pretty hapless at present. I'm confident that will change for the better soon.

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                              • Gather round
                                First Team
                                • Apr 2006
                                • 2045

                                #1830
                                Originally posted by Charlie Darwin
                                Why would anybody voluntarily decide not to pick players who've represented other countries at U19/21 level? The rule was specifically brought in to help small nations like ours.
                                Not so. It was brought in to ensure votes from Francophone countries in West Africa (many of which, like Algeria, are only small in the sense of being less good at football than the European country where most of their emigrants go).

                                I've answered this repeatedly above. It's broadly worth the FAI's while to have good working relationship with IFA. In case they need support to stage a showpiece final or tournament, say. Or just in case we'rew drawn to play in future competition. Or at the most trivial level, to avoid banner warfare at games?

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