Player eligibility row

[geysir]

In an underground car park?

[Gather round]

It would be interesting to hear what the IFA have to say on the matter, which is why I was wondering if they ever got back to the e-mail GR sent them

Alas not. I will send a reminder on Monday next.

[Mr_Parker]

Where did you hear this?

Horses mouth.

[ArdeeBhoy]

Alas not. I will send a reminder on Monday next.

Yeah, that will work....

And the horse is dogfood now??

[Mr_Parker]

CAS Ruling in full....

http://www.tas-cas.org/d2wfiles/document/4385/5048/0/Award%202071.pdf

[Mr_Parker]

I presume item 3 in the conclusion was the awarding of costs?

[Mr A]

CAS Ruling in full....

http://www.tas-cas.org/d2wfiles/docu...ard%202071.pdf

I expect an IFA appeal on the basis that this was your 666th post and therefore the FAI are clearly in league with the devil.

[Predator]

Just had a quick perusal of the ruling. I felt like I was revising...

[ifk101]

The references made to the "1950 FIFA Ruling" by the IFA (and previously known as the supposed Gentleman's Agreement between the FAI and IFA) are quite interesting. Especially the part where the IFA confirm they could not produce the contents of this ruling (they were currently looking for them) but that the IFA "was not uncertain of the form it took".


Edit: reading on; while the IFA and its supporters have constantly referred to the existence of a "Gentleman's Agreement" between the two associations, it is revealed that the FAI was not actually party to said agreement. Essentially this supposed "Gentleman's Agreement" is a letter from FIFA to the IFA telling the IFA "it was inadmissible to select players, being citizens of Eire" for its represenative teams.

[co. down green]

The references made to the "1950 FIFA Ruling" by the IFA (and previously known as the supposed Gentleman's Agreement between the FAI and IFA) are quite interesting. Especially the part where the IFA confirm they could not produce the contents of this ruling (they were currently looking for them) but that the IFA "was not uncertain of the form it took".


Edit: reading on; while the IFA and its supporters have constantly referred to the existence of a "Gentleman's Agreement" between the two associations, it is revealed that the FAI was not actually party to said agreement. Essentially this supposed "Gentleman's Agreement" is a letter from FIFA to the IFA telling the IFA "it was inadmissible to select players, being citizens of Eire" for its represenative teams.

Sounds like this 'Gentleman's agreement' existed only in the heads of the IFA grand wizards.

The FAI for its part contends that the status of Irish citizens living in N. Ireland has never been discussed and that the FAI has never accepted that Irish citizens could not be selected for its team, whether they live in NI or elsewhere.

[Mr_Parker]

I expect an IFA appeal on the basis that this was your 666th post and therefore the FAI are clearly in league with the devil.

After last weeks IFA EGM some already believed that.

[dr_peepee]

Just seen that Preston youngfella Adam Barton pulled out of the NI full squad to keep his "Options Open"... Is he elligable for us??? Or is his "Option" England in this case??

[ifk101]

Sounds like this 'Gentleman's agreement' existed only in the heads of the IFA grand wizards.

It's quite comical tbh. The IFA are "not uncertain of the form it (the Gentleman's Agreement) took" but it wasn't agreed with the FAI and the FAI wasn't notified of its existence. And this 1950's "agreement" formed the basis of their appeal to the CAS.

[OneRedArmy]

In fairness, a gentlemen's agreement, by its nature is frequently unprovable, as it stands on both parties being gentleman.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentlemen's_agreement

[geysir]

Some interesting revelations - at least to me.
The FAI did accept the FIFA compromise proposal in Nov 2007 but it was rejected by the IFA.
Page 18
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7 March 2007,
'FIFA Legal Committee invited the FAI voluntarily to confine itself to selecting for its association teams Northern Irish players who meet one of the following requirements: a) the player was born in the Republic of Ireland, b) his biological mother or father was born in the Republic of Ireland, c) his grandmother or grandfather was born in the Republic of Ireland, or d) he has lived continuously, for at least two years, in the Republic of Ireland'.

'On 5 November 2007, FIFA informed the IFA that the FAI did not accept its proposal of 7 March 2007'.

'The FIFA Legal Committee made a “new proposal” and invited the IFA as well as the FAI to express its position on the following “suggested approach” …..' (aka the compromise)

'On 8 November 2007, the IFA expressed its disagreement with the proposal of the FIFA Legal Committee, which was however accepted by the FAI on 20 November 2007'.