Player eligibility row

[Sullivinho]

More FAI training camps:

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It's been done. But good effort.

[dantheman]

It's been done. But good effort.

Here's another map of the dias-prod-a:

[co. down green]

I always find it amusing when the North’s supporters go on about the number players born outside the island who play for Ireland.

Its almost as though they get amnesia when reading through their own underage squads.

Seeing as maps are the popular medium at the moment, here’s one showing some of the Birthplace’s of the north’s current u17 to u21 squads, i'm sure their are more English born players in the current squads, maybe even a few Zambians or Germans.

[Sullivinho]

Its almost as though they get amnesia when reading through their own underage squads.

Such an ability takes years of practice.

[kingdomkerry]

As we are on the subject of maps..........see below

[kingdomkerry]

Map 4: those between 0 and 4 years of age at the time of the 2001 census:

http://nireland2001.webs.com/

This was at the time of the 2001 census so this is where all the 13 year olds an younger are situated now if sombody wants to draw training camps on it.

[kingdomkerry]

Map 3: those over 75 years of age at the time of the 2001 census:

If we ever want to do an over 75 Ireland team (aka father ted) this map is better to allow us to set up training camps.

[ifk101]

I always find it amusing when the North’s supporters go on about the number players born outside the island who play for Ireland.

Yes that criticism always brings a smile considering there's a long list of players the IFA has approached only to be turned down. We currently have a number of senior internationals that will attest to that. Nigel's planned recruitment drive of established professionals has failed so the focus is now on recruiting kids that don't know better.

[dantheman]

Animated GIFs are great. Shows the tide going out.

What I cannot understand is what is going on in parts of West Tyrone. There seem to be a few house swaps going on!!

[co. down green]

I forgot about our own former Ireland u16 international John (Johnny) Gorman who is playing for the North, now added.

[Predator]

* - But like Arnie: "I'll Be Back"

You must be referring to the Arnie of Hercules in New York.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzjZfAGgE2M

[Gather round]

I always find it amusing when the North’s supporters go on about the number players born outside the island who play for Ireland

Fair point, and thanks for the map/ list- I've never heard of most of them, although I do watch a lot of our U-21 games.

I think one reason we mention it (apart from on this thread, replying to Dan's map gag) is that although your fans are stressing, reasonably enough, that this dispute is about giving all Irishmen the chance to play for the Republic, there's a wider issue. Neither Irish team can produce enough high-standard players so, like the Scots and Welsh, we'll both continue to recruit the shortfall mainly from England. In practice, all four of us will take people whose connection to their new country is pretty superficial. That said, of the 24 players from NI's recent qualifiers only two (Paterson and Taylor) were from outside.

I see the predictable 'united Ireland inevitabvle at next census/ election/ opinion poll/ Tuesday' has revived again, so I'll leave you to it. Let us know after the referendum result, ta.

[ArdeeBhoy]

Fair point, and thanks for the map/ list- I've never heard of most of them, although I do watch a lot of our U-21 games.

Even If this was true, you never pay much attention to any game yer ever at....

I see the predictable 'united Ireland inevitabvle at next census/ election/ opinion poll/ Tuesday' has revived again, so I'll leave you to it. Let us know after the referendum result, ta.

Huh?

More paranoid ramblings....who mentioned a vote!!

[ifk101]

I think one reason we mention it (apart from on this thread, replying to Dan's map gag) is that although your fans are stressing, reasonably enough, that this dispute is about giving all Irishmen the chance to play for the Republic there's a wider issue. Neither Irish team can produce enough high-standard players so, like the Scots and Welsh, we'll both continue to recruit the shortfall mainly from England.

What we have here is a football association seeking to stop nationals by birth the right to represent their country. The football association in question has a very unique interpretation of FIFA's eligibility statutes and, despite receiving clarification from FIFA on this matter, believes it's interpretation is correct and wants FIFA to apply and uphold its eligibility statutes according to how it interprets the statutes. That said football association is also very critical of the selection policies of other football associations, is qualified by the knowledge that one of the most capped players for said football association has zero eligibility linkage to the said football association.

That said, of the 24 players from NI's recent qualifiers only two (Paterson and Taylor) were from outside.

Once you cap a player with what you term "superficial" connections, it's laughable to come along and assume a moral high ground in moaning about other football associations doing likewise.

[dantheman]

Fair point, and thanks for the map/ list- I've never heard of most of them, although I do watch a lot of our U-21 games.

Tis a fair point, the maps of hypocrisy never lie! I suggest you do more research and spread the word amoungs your OWC brethren, they seem unaware they live in glass houses.

I think one reason we mention it (apart from on this thread, replying to Dan's map gag) is that although your fans are stressing, reasonably enough, that this dispute is about giving all Irishmen the chance to play for the Republic, there's a wider issue. Neither Irish team can produce enough high-standard players so, like the Scots and Welsh, we'll both continue to recruit the shortfall mainly from England. In practice, all four of us will take people whose connection to their new country is pretty superficial. That said, of the 24 players from NI's recent qualifiers only two (Paterson and Taylor) were from outside.

A wider issue indeed, and connected to the above. You are indeed correct that England, due to proximity and huge population, will provide some of its born and bred citizens to NI/ROI/Wales/Scotland.
That being said, only one set of fans are pointing out than one particular individual other association is involved in this. Your own. Which is sad, as we're all at it. Furthermore the OWC rabble have their own, self concluded interpretation, that they wish to have imposed.

Because they're "special"

I see the predictable 'united Ireland inevitabvle at next census/ election/ opinion poll/ Tuesday' has revived again, so I'll leave you to it. Let us know after the referendum result, ta.

Oh but nobody wrote anything about that! We are just examining more options for the FAI training camps for when they take their rightful and noble place in the wee six!