Galway promoted - Setanta's mistake

[DotTV]

Thank you; I believe I shall.

Do you see how every club can be "in favour" of the proposals and yet how that doesn't mean fans have to be in favour?

It doesn't matter if the fans aren't in favour.It's too late. If the fans had a problem with it they should have made it known to the club officials before a decision was taken to sign up to the league.At this stage it's all hot air.Some clubs will lose out, that's just tough ****.
Regardless of whether certain fans agree with it or not you still can't blame a particular club if they get promoted.United didn't invent the rules and as the table shows below they have far from qualified yet.
This was in the Mirror today:
Marks out of 500 for sporting criteria 2002-2006:
1. Shels 493
2. Cork 460
2. Derry 460
4. Drogheda 437
5. Longford 430
6. Bohemains 420
7. St Pats 410
8. Shamrock Rovers 380
9. UCD 370
10. Sligo 340
11. Waterford 337
12. Bray 333
13 Finn Harps 283
14 Galway Utd 260
15. Cobh, Limerick, Dundalk 247

[Dj Duffer]

Im not believing anything till monday, the amount of rumours going around is unreall.. And plus its the mirror!

[Patrick Dunne]

I can't see us gaining 73 points out of 500 over Bray Wanderers. We possibly will catch Harps - 23 points not a huge gap.

[pineapple stu]

It doesn't matter if the fans aren't in favour.

Didn't know you worked for the FAI.

If the fans had a problem with it they should have made it known to the club officials before a decision was taken to sign up to the league.

It was made known. However, the fact that the clubs were effectively bullied into voting this in doesn't in the least mean that we all have to think it's a great idea, which is what the original point was.

[DotTV]

Any proof of this "bullying" Pineapple?

Patrick, Utd are fairly on the ball for the off the field activities.I'd say they'd be near the top of the points for that.
I haven't a clue what kind of state Bray are in but 73 points isn't an insurmountable gap by any means.
Also what kind of a league is it going to be with at least 5 teams from Dublin?

[Patrick Dunne]

If the representative of UCD voted for a proposal that he and his club were opposed to, the only conclusion one can come to is that he is not very bright.

Bray appear to be a reasonably well run club. They are never in financial trouble, never seem to be involved in embarrassing "brushes for corner flags" type incidents, have improved their ground this season, and seem to have decent enough attendances.

We will be doing well to score effectively 15% higher than them for off-field criteria.

[pineapple stu]

Only what various club officials from various clubs have told me. Nothing in writing unfortunately, so you can believe it or not - I don't really care. Doesn't change the reality of it.

Edit - good man Patrick. Hope you looked before you leapt at that conclusion. How about the fact that we weren't willing to jeopardise E1.25m of grant funding which was announced the week after the vote? How about the fact that if we voted against the FAI, the FAI would remember that in times to come? Do you think 99.99% of Iraqi voters favoured Saddam Hussein?

[gufct]

Get a grip stu your moaning is unbelievable.I dont know one way or the other whether were going up but if we dont we have a plan b in place which will be implemented on Tuesday night and then the real work starts.

[Conor H]

Only what various club officials from various clubs have told me. Nothing in writing unfortunately, so you can believe it or not - I don't really care. Doesn't change the reality of it.

Edit - good man Patrick. Hope you looked before you leapt at that conclusion. How about the fact that we weren't willing to jeopardise E1.25m of grant funding which was announced the week after the vote? How about the fact that if we voted against the FAI, the FAI would remember that in times to come? Do you think 99.99% of Iraqi voters favoured Saddam Hussein?

Comparing UCD voting for the proposals of the FAI and the Iraqi people voting for Sadamm is a tad over dramatic.

[pineapple stu]

Of course, it's just nonsensical moaning.

See, this is what the original query was about. This is one of the most stupid things the FAI has ever done, with absolutely no back up that it'll work, no proper plan in place to make it work, clearly against all sporting principles, talk about favours from the FAI and leaked information which could set some clubs back years, people talking about legal challenges everywhere and Galway fans - almost exclusively Galway fans - think that everyone's only having an aul moan.

Conor H - care to back up your comment? I've outlined the comparisons quite clearly.

[Patrick Dunne]

As bad as they are, I don't think they FAI would ever use chemical gas in the leafy suburbs of South Dublin, thus precipitating an American invasion of the area.

[Conor H]

Of course, it's just nonsensical moaning.

Conor H - care to back up your comment? I've outlined the comparisons quite clearly.

I think PD sums it up well.
Stu It's not our fault we may benefit from the new proposals.Such an Irish thing.....when someone does something wright certain elements get upset.I haven't a notion of argueing with ya....i'm gonna try and remain quiet on foot.ie for a while.

[Terry]

Also what kind of a league is it going to be with at least 5 teams from Dublin?

a normal one !

[Terry]

Do you think 99.99% of Iraqi voters favoured Saddam Hussein?

they would now !!!!

[DotTV]

Pineapple, your original comment was this:
"The issue was why Galway are so happy to ignore what is clearly a travesty of sporting principles."

Regardless of whether certain supporters didn't want this, or if the FAI put pressure on clubs to sign up or UCD didn't object for political reasons, it is unfair to single out Galway Utd when every club(for whatever reasons) have agreed and accepted the terms surrounding the creation of this new league.