Cork City denied a licence; club to be wound up; FORAS to enter First Division

[The Lep]

I remember some Cork city fans laughing on here at Dublin city folding .
What goes around eh.

[dcfcsteve]

Actually, isn't there a bit in the licence agreement that states a club has to be solvent (defined here as having more assets than liabilities) to get a licence? There's several clubs this clearly doesn't apply to. So the FAI are flouting their own rules in this regard.

But there's a difference between getting a license and keeping one.

I'm not aware of any mechanism whereby a license can be removed mid-way through its valid period (i.e. the season). So you could meet the criteria, get your license, and then fall into a situation where you no longer match the criteria but still continue to the end of your license/the season.

[OneRedArmy]

Not representative of what?

There are examples of member-owned clubs being run badly, and privately owned clubs being run well, and similarly vice versa.

While you favour member clubs, it does appear that we are both in agreement that the member-owned model is not automatically a panacea. The recent progress of Shamrock Rovers indicates what is possible, but equally Bohemains remain as the stand-out illustration of how a membership can be hoodwinked or deluded into colluding with financial recklessness.

The club being embedded in the community, and the community being embedded in the club, can occur in either scenario.

Maybe I need to be a bit clearer. For every member controlled club you can name thats gone to the wall, I'll name 5 traditional owner-shareholder clubs that have done the same.

The history of the League is littered with Tom Coughlan's who for various reasons ran clubs into the ground.

I'm not aware that's the case with member owned clubs.

As for why thats the case, transparent democracy generally tends to give oxygen to potential problems earlier.

[Mr A]

Slightly strange statement from the FAI (as if they would or should get involved in helping in such a situation): http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/soc...251572071.html

[TheBoss]

This would be the 2nd time that a Cork City FC will be wound up, the last time in the 1939/40 season, they were wound up and replaced immediately by a new club, Cork United FC which took on City's results at that point.

[Raheny Red]

I remember some Cork city fans laughing on here at Dublin city folding .
What goes around eh.

That's why I'm so happy over Cork folding. They'll be careful next time surely

[harry crumb]

That's why I'm so happy over Cork folding. They'll be careful next time surely

Sad attitude.

The vasy majority of Cork City supporters are decent sporting fans.

Don't understand how any right minded LOI supporter could take satisfation in the loss of an important club like Cork City.

The demise of Cork City is on a totally different scale to Dublin City. We have a history and a generation that has grown up with the club. Dublin City was still in its infancy.

James has posted a great post on the City seciton http://foot.ie/forums/showthread.php?t=121601

[tiktok]

i thought FORAS worked with the examiner as a sort of official entity to represent the clubs interests, and i thought they released a statement sayin they were satisfied the right man had taken over the club,

am i wrong or is this true

You're wrong [no surprise there though].

[don ramo]

You're wrong [no surprise there though].

wow so your supporting an organisaition that has actually contributed NOTING to your club, you club that is now gone,

if they didnt help out during the examinership process (probably the biggest issue in CCFCs History), and they gave no support what to speak of to the club, exactly WTF do they do,

[Philly]

wow so your supporting an organisaition that has actually contributed NOTING to your club, you club that is now gone,

if they didnt help out during the examinership process (probably the biggest issue in CCFCs History), and they gave no support what to speak of to the club, exactly WTF do they do,

Your comment would have some grounding if it wasn't blatantly clear FORAS has never had a proper opportunity to actually help out. Whilst their €80000 or so they have to give might well be alot to most clubs, it's a small portion of what is needed to get the club out of the hole it is in at the moment. They could sent it to Mr Coughlan today, and the club would very likely still be history come Friday. On the other hand, they could be smart and save it to form a fan-owned A League team next season.

Anyway, hearing a Cobh fan slag off other clubs for their supporters input is a bit much considering the mess you guys let yourselves to get into.

[adamd164]

Tom Coughlan has thrown in the towel.

Today's Examiner:

"We’re in a very difficult environment as regards sponsorship. We’re doing the best we can. But we’re up against it, I’m not so sure we’ll get there at this stage to be honest."

"It’s very challenging," he admitted. "I see it as something that the community needs. Maybe I’m alone in thinking that and maybe I have to question that. There are some fantastic sporting organisations out there and maybe there isn’t room for the League of Ireland. It’s a tough learning curve but I don’t have any regrets.

"We’re doing our damndest but our damndest may not be enough. There aren’t a lot of deep pockets out there. People are in their own jams and that’s perfectly understandable. It’s going to be very difficult."

[SeanDrog]

Tom Coughlan has thrown in the towel.

Today's Examiner:

he appears completely out of touch and taking zero blame. Cork came out of examinership and should have taken a step back so to speak to steady the ship etc etc but instead he ploughed on and drove up costs - Cork are were hey are simply because of his management.

Crazy stuff from him - it looks like he actually beleives his own rubbish .....

[redobit]

Obviously every Cork fans heart is hoping they can survive. But, is there any Cork fans who in their head is saying: A-league, supporter run, supporter owned; maybe this is the best way for the long term future of LOI in Cork?

[razor]

Obviously every Cork fans heart is hoping they can survive. But, is there any Cork fans who in their head is saying: A-league, supporter run, supporter owned; maybe this is the best way for the long term future of LOI in Cork?

Most of us are.
We all want to see the club survive but no one in their right mind is going to hand over money with Coughlan still at the helm.

[Magicme]

We have a history

History doesnt pay the taxman. Time clubs realised that past glories are just that - past. The future is where its at.

Am totally gutted for Cork and their fans.