Transfer Rumours (July 2008 Window)

[Martinho II]

Was just joking Martinho. Maybe I should have had a :). Apologies for any offence.

no problem longfordian apology accepted.. were u at shels game last nite??

[Longfordian]

I was, got in just in time for the first goal. Great win.

[Gaillimh Al]

Regi Nooitmeer has just been put on the transfer list by Galway United. Would say there'll be a few interested.

[Martinho II]

Regi Nooitmeer has just been put on the transfer list by Galway United. Would say there'll be a few interested.

how many is there that galway have released?? is that eight now...

[Gaillimh Al]

Not released like the others. Put on the transfer list.

[Mr Maroon]

Sale now on. Everything must go. :rolleyes:

[Aaron]

Sale now on. Everything must go. :rolleyes:

I hope we make a bid for Derek O'Brien. He was very close to signing in Jan but changed his mind at the last min. I'm sure a wee bit of the McCourt fee could be put forward to make a bid

[Rovers fan]

Regi Nooitmeer has just been put on the transfer list by Galway United. Would say there'll be a few interested.

would regi be one of yer best players?

[Mr Maroon]

would regi be one of yer best players?
Probably not. Not this season anyway. When he first signed he would have been.

[sligofan4ever]

would regi be one of yer best players?

he was ok when he signed for them last season from what I seen. If he were to sign for Rovers he might be a good covering defender. Be better cover than Big Wes tbh.

[Mr Maroon]

he was ok when he signed for them last season from what I seen. If he were to sign for Rovers he might be a good covering defender. Be better cover than Big Wes tbh.
When he first signed he was very very good! His form has dipped since but he's still a good player.
He's much better than Wes. Regi is more of a right back than a centre half. He's good at getting forward from a full-back position. He has recently been playing left-back aswell.

[sligofan4ever]

When he first signed he was very very good! His form has dipped since but he's still a good player.
He's much better than Wes. Regi is more of a right back than a centre half. He's good at getting forward from a full-back position. He has recently been playing left-back aswell.

it would take something special for him to get into the team we've got seamie coleman (RB) and chris butler (LB) and we got some good cover defenders like Jamie McKenzie but 1 cover defender isnt enough for example Danny Ventre was poor at left back so it would be handy to have someone who regularly plays there.

[Mr Maroon]

it would take something special for him to get into the team we've got seamie coleman (RB) and chris butler (LB) and we got some good cover defenders like Jamie McKenzie but 1 cover defender isnt enough for example Danny Ventre was poor at left back so it would be handy to have someone who regularly plays there.
He has only played LB about 3 times, although he has played well each time. The highlight was against Pats in the 2-2 draw in Terryland. He was brilliant that night. He set up our 2nd goal. It can be seen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmMFSPib7oo

[BobtheDrog]

I heard the other day that David Mcallister was going to shels on loan for the rest of the season to get some first team football

[Hibs4Ever]

Wouldnt say that so soon i'd judge him after a couple of games.


Will he get the chance though? Chriss Killen is a full New Zealand international and can't get a look in. Derek Riordan was a regular in Scotlands squads til he signed for them, again, doesn't get a look in. Plus McCourt has to get ahead of McGeady and Nakamura. CAn't see him getting much joy there TBH

[Spoons]

Its absolutely outrageous the way Galway have behaved saying they have to release players.....how the hell did they get into the Premier Division in the first place if they cant sustain wages.....and Galway are supposed to be the "template" as to how a football club in Ireland should be run!!....also may I suggest with respect, the wages their now manager Jeff Kenna is taking home would be quite a hefty sum seen as he has played at the very highest level--I'm not saying he should be getting any less, the best of luck to the guy, he seems a genuine bloke..........Did the Galway board dupe Jeff Kenna into the job or was he aware they were going to hit the situation they now are in crying poverty ??!!......:confused:

[Mr A]

In all fairness, financial woes can hit any club if their on field performance is markedly below expectation and they don't have serious backers. Harps last bout of problems came off the back of 4-5 years of profits, then one really bad year and we were in a world of hurt. This year is incredibly pressurised because 3 clubs are going down- so there was more pressure than ever to field a competitive budget. The key is to act early to get things sorted out and Galway United appear to be doing this. I don't think they can force players to leave (unless there's a clause in their contracts of something) but hopefully the players will find new clubs. As for Kenna- I don't know what he is paid but I don't think it's big money. He's already a very wealthy man and I doubt anything an LOI club can pay him would make a huge difference to him to be honest.

Also, Galway are by no means the only club with problems. There have been rumblings of problems at Cobh and Sligo also that I know of.

[forza rovers]

Its absolutely outrageous the way Galway have behaved saying they have to release players.....how the hell did they get into the Premier Division in the first place if they cant sustain wages.....and Galway are supposed to be the "template" as to how a football club in Ireland should be run!!....also may I suggest with respect, the wages their now manager Jeff Kenna is taking home would be quite a hefty sum seen as he has played at the very highest level--I'm not saying he should be getting any less, the best of luck to the guy, he seems a genuine bloke..........Did the Galway board dupe Jeff Kenna into the job or was he aware they were going to hit the situation they now are in crying poverty ??!!......:confused:their over the wage cap and getting rid of players so if they manage to stay up they don't get done with point deductions.

[Mr Maroon]

Its absolutely outrageous the way Galway have behaved saying they have to release players.....how the hell did they get into the Premier Division in the first place if they cant sustain wages.....and Galway are supposed to be the "template" as to how a football club in Ireland should be run!!....also may I suggest with respect, the wages their now manager Jeff Kenna is taking home would be quite a hefty sum seen as he has played at the very highest level--I'm not saying he should be getting any less, the best of luck to the guy, he seems a genuine bloke..........Did the Galway board dupe Jeff Kenna into the job or was he aware they were going to hit the situation they now are in crying poverty ??!!......:confused:
We haven't released any players this season. They've been transfer listed.

[gufct]

We haven't released any players this season. They've been transfer listed.

We have effectively torn up their contracts (on the 1st July) Mr. Maroon and we wont be getting a penny for any of them.Worse still there will be no replacements.

[higgins]

I heard the other day that David Mcallister was going to shels on loan for the rest of the season to get some first team football

what's this fella like ?
depending on where he plays he might not get too much first team action!

[Mr Maroon]

We have effectively torn up their contracts (on the 1st July) Mr. Maroon and we wont be getting a penny for any of them.Worse still there will be no replacements.
That's scandalous if the club actually do that. We'll end up in the same boat as Shels.

[Schumi]

We have effectively torn up their contracts (on the 1st July)Can you do that? Do you not have to pay them compensation?

[higgins]

That's scandalous if the club actually do that. We'll end up in the same boat as Shels.

What boat would that be :)

All our players received their money eventually! nothing to pride ourselves on but we didn't just rip up contracts, that's not allowed.

I'd imagine that any player you release who doesn't find a club and who is still under contract you will have to keep paying. You can't just rip them up without their consent.
Which is why you had players at Shels hanging on after the League win under contracts and milking every last cent out of us, some who waited months before accepting contracts elsewhere. Despite the fact they were not getting paid each week they were still entitled to that money under their contact and eventually it was all paid back to them.

The players would be doing your club a massive favour if they allowed Galway to rip up the contracts! It's the players choice not just the clubs and I doubt any player would agree to that..

Could it be that all these players are out of contract come July 1st ?

[Mr A]

Or was there a clause in their contracts saying they could be terminated on July 1st?

[Mr Maroon]

What boat would that be :)

Could it be that all these players are out of contract come July 1st ?
I meant taken to court, relegated, up the s*** creek basically.

No, their contracts are up at the end of this season or the end next season.


Or was there a clause in their contracts saying they could be terminated on July 1st?
Don't think so.

[higgins]

Well then you won't be able to rip up the contracts without their consent. They will either have to accept a transfer elsewhere or you pay them off somehow. You can't simply release them if it's not in their contract.

To get into the Shels boat you would have to have a large unpaid tax bill there too :)

It does show up this 65% rull to be a bit silly. If nobody wants to offer these players a contract then you can't do anything other than continue to pay them which will result in fines and points deductions for going over the 65%.

Putting your entire team on the list may have been a better way out of the mess. Or try to flog some of your better players for little or no transfer fee.

Telling 6 players under contract they are released won't solve your problem.

[passerrby]

player may sign a mutual release form if they agree to go however if they dont the club has a contract it must honour... I think

[micls]

It does show up this 65% rull to be a bit silly. If nobody wants to offer these players a contract then you can't do anything other than continue to pay them which will result in fines and points deductions for going over the 65%.



I dont think it shows the rule up to be silly. Your point is valid but people knew the rule was coming and should only have been signing contracts on that basis

[micls]

Rumour down here is that Gamble will be a Pat's player come July first for the price of 50k....if they want him

[Spoons]

Anybody hear any rumours that Kudozovic and Killian Brennan are going to James Gannon's Stockport for a combined total of 100k ?? :ball:

[forza rovers]

Anybody hear any rumours that Kudozovic and Killian Brennan are going to James Gannon's Stockport for a combined total of 100k ?? :ball:u heard about that yesterday,so 50,50 is it?

[Spoons]

40/60 I heard..........

[forza rovers]

40/60 I heard..........hope its 60 for faz

[bigmac]

Well then you won't be able to rip up the contracts without their consent. They will either have to accept a transfer elsewhere or you pay them off somehow. You can't simply release them if it's not in their contract.


I suspect that he was just indicating that players will not be held to the terms of their contracts should another club be willing to employ them - from what I've heard there's no question of Galway not honouring existing contracts but that they are looking to offload wages rather than sell players for a fee.

[Magicme]

Its absolutely outrageous the way Galway have behaved saying they have to release players.....how the hell did they get into the Premier Division in the first place if they cant sustain wages.....and Galway are supposed to be the "template" as to how a football club in Ireland should be run!!....also may I suggest with respect, the wages their now manager Jeff Kenna is taking home would be quite a hefty sum seen as he has played at the very highest level--I'm not saying he should be getting any less, the best of luck to the guy, he seems a genuine bloke..........Did the Galway board dupe Jeff Kenna into the job or was he aware they were going to hit the situation they now are in crying poverty ??!!......:confused:

At the start of the season you put in projected accounts of how you see your revenue stacking up and it is on that basis that you sign your players and agree your playing budget. If, as is the case for most clubs this year due to the "credit crunch" (god dont you hate these terms they come up with for us all being broke?) the sponsorship deals and supports from businesses are not as easy to come by and there is a bit more of a shortfall than anticipated, hence clubs are having to take drastic measures to come in under the wage cap.

Simple really.

Poor Galway. :(

[WoodquayBoy]

also may I suggest with respect, the wages their now manager Jeff Kenna is taking home would be quite a hefty sum seen as he has played at the very highest level
Suggest away, but you are very wrong, and in any event, he has signed a contract which includes a clause that 40% of his wages are dependant on keeping United in the Premier Division, so his wages are certainly not an issue

[higgins]

I suspect that he was just indicating that players will not be held to the terms of their contracts should another club be willing to employ them - from what I've heard there's no question of Galway not honouring existing contracts but that they are looking to offload wages rather than sell players for a fee.

So what Galway are doing is putting 6 players on the Transfer List.
No releasing or ripping up of contracts...

If nobody is willing to take them or they are not willing to go, you've no option but to continue paying them and continue to come in above 65% each month.

Another point is that just because the FAI are forcing Galways hand on the 65% rule doesn't mean that the club are broke. I'm sure many clubs in the league can afford over 65% of turnover on players and still come out the other end of the season turning a profit or breaking even.

[micls]

Posted on our forum by a Galway fan

From the star:

Cork City have made a late bid to steal Derek O'Brien from under the noses of St. Pats. The Leesiders have been given permission to talk to O'Brien after an offer of cash-plus- players was accepted by the tribesmen.
It is believed that City would loan out some of their fringe players to the Premier Division's basement boys.
St Pat's meanwhile have been told that they can talk to the player after they made a straight cash bid, thought to be around €25,000

[dfx-]

Stephen Rice transfer-listed and Murphy released up-for-grabs

http://www.shamrockrovers.ie/index-home.php

*sigh*

[Mr Maroon]

Stephen Rice transfer-listed and Murphy released up-for-grabs

http://www.shamrockrovers.ie/index-home.php

*sigh*
That's what happens when you have a disagreement with Scully apparently.

[dfx-]

apparently.

After what must be the 15th or 16th time, I'd say it's fairly sure that is what happens.

[micls]

Apparently Glenavon will be paying Tony Grant 1200 a week.....part time :o

[saint morrissey]

molloy and grant isnt a bad strike force, especially if glenavon can petition the assembly to put the clocks back 5 years.

[superfrank]

Stephen Rice transfer-listed and Murphy released up-for-grabs

http://www.shamrockrovers.ie/index-home.php

*sigh*
I would love to see Stephen Rice at Bray. He seems to really dig in and give his all for the teams he's played for.

[forza rovers]

Stephen Rice transfer-listed and Murphy released up-for-grabs

http://www.shamrockrovers.ie/index-home.php

*sigh*hes captain isint he

[Dunny]

Aidan Price is captain AFAIK.

[dfx-]

Price is captain

[Mr A]

Rice story here: http://www.eleven-a-side.com/eircomleague/news.asp?n=32893

[pineapple stu]

Rice story Mr A - don't be giving the Rovers fans even more to worry about!!