Denis O'Briens donation [Archive] - Page 5

tetsujin1979

17/02/2008, 10:38 PM

TonyD

18/02/2008, 1:06 PM

It's not really tbh. 99% of people support their local team because they were brought by a family member, they live very close to the stadium, stuff like that. Even living where I do off Pearse st the kids don't know the league exists unless they're brought to watch Shels or Rovers by their parents. Anyway, we've had this debate loads of times.

You've misunderstood my post. Read the whole sentence.

tetsujin1979

18/02/2008, 2:35 PM

Thanks for that Tets, haven't seen the paper today have only read the on-line version.

BTW, who wrote the article 'Trapattoni offers guile but without guarantees', the on-line version doesn't say.

Can't remember, think it was Fanning.

Apologies, it was John O'Brien, not Dion Fanning.

Just checked Tets and it was written by John O' Brien.

ruben_sosa

18/02/2008, 4:17 PM

This is a joke. The FAI have done nothing illegal. Russia did the same with Hiddink. FIFA did nothing in that case.

It is obvious that the Independent have an axe to grind with DOB.

wouldn't be related to the fact that Denis O'Brien owns 18% of Independent News & Media and is trying to oust the board?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/06/14/cninm114.xml

janeymac

19/02/2008, 11:13 AM

wouldn't be related to the fact that Denis O'Brien owns 18% of Independent News & Media and is trying to oust the board?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/06/14/cninm114.xml

I'd say this has a lot to do with Denis O'Brien's donation. Tony O'Reilly (Eircom Chairman) beat Denis O'Brien to the purchase of Eircom who happen to be the FAI sponsors. Nice way for Denis O'Brien to have a little dig at O'Reilly. Hopefully, the FAI don't lose their sponsors over this. It seems that O'Brien will be attempting a hostile take over of Indep. News & Media (owned by O'Reilly).

I just hope this does not end in tears for the FAI, considering they actually didn't need the cash. Why the hell wasn't O'Brien directed to putting the money straight into grassroots in the first place?

Dotsy

19/02/2008, 11:32 AM

wouldn't be related to the fact that Denis O'Brien owns 18% of Independent News & Media and is trying to oust the board?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/06/14/cninm114.xml

Yes I am well aware of why the Independent as an axe to grind with DOB. My point is that anything its so called journalists write about this matter has to be viewed sceptically beacause of this. They have an agenda which they will push regardless of what the facts are.

jbyrne

19/02/2008, 12:09 PM

Aussies payed Hiddink's entire wages from a businessman's donation. Hopefully more money will come into Irish football from those with deep pockets such as O'Brien.

and opel sponsorship paid for jack charlton. cant believe this issue is getting so much coverage

Dotsy

19/02/2008, 1:08 PM

Lets just hope Trap and his team don't look at this and decide what the hell am I letting myself in for here and bail out before he even starts

Calcio Jack

19/02/2008, 1:57 PM

and opel sponsorship paid for jack charlton. cant believe this issue is getting so much coverage

Indeed it did....and as a result of that we had to enjure Arnold O'Byrne appearing on the Late late etc and being feted as " Ireland's best supporter" like he was the saviour when all he did was spend in a very clever manner part of Opel's world wide marketing budget....at least DOB is spending his own money

jbyrne

19/02/2008, 4:29 PM

Indeed it did....and as a result of that we had to enjure Arnold O'Byrne appearing on the Late late etc and being feted as " Ireland's best supporter" like he was the saviour when all he did was spend in a very clever manner part of Opel's world wide marketing budget....at least DOB is spending his own money

my point is that there is a precedent for sponsorship or handouts to be used to pay for a manager by the FAI and other associations. only the Irish could turn what has happened into a negative. we have ended up with a manager beyond our wildest dreams yet some on here would depress anyone to tears with the negativity of the comments. unbelieveable. i thought anyone posting here was actually a supporter of Irish football :confused:

bennocelt

19/02/2008, 5:57 PM

And that's exactly why some of us who support our local team ( I support a team, not a league) have no interest in what passes for our NATIONAL team.

THE O Brien thing is right dodgy, money from a crook, god the FAI have no shame
Its going to be some fall out when this goes all arse up

I am getting a bit sick of all the carry on with the national team, so i have decided, since i have recently moved to Dublin, to start looking into the LOI again. So Im looking forward to the start of the Eircom League and let the band wagon stick with the national team

beautifulrock

19/02/2008, 6:01 PM

THE O Brien thing is right dodgy, money from a crook, god the FAI have no shame
Its going to be some fall out when this goes all arse up

I am getting a bit sick of all the carry on with the national team, so i have decided, since i have recently moved to Dublin, to start looking into the LOI again. So Im looking forward to the start of the Eircom League and let the band wagon stick with the national team

You will be missed, good bye :rolleyes:

blobbyblob

19/02/2008, 6:37 PM

Let the band wagon stick with the national team

When should we expect to hear from you again?

TonyD

20/02/2008, 12:40 PM

NeilMcD

20/02/2008, 12:41 PM

I think you can support the LOI and the International team. They are not exclusive of each other.

NeilMcD

20/02/2008, 12:42 PM

And that's exactly why some of us who support our local team ( I support a team, not a league) have no interest in what passes for our NATIONAL team.

IN the wrong forum ifyou have no interest, you must have some interest if you are logging in and viewing threads in the national team forum.

jbyrne

20/02/2008, 2:09 PM

And that's exactly why some of us who support our local team ( I support a team, not a league) have no interest in what passes for our NATIONAL team.

absolutely hillarious. i can only assume this refers to the non existance of some eircom lge players in the team (given that 90% of the Irish team are Irish born)? remind me again how jason byrne and george ocallaghan got on in the championship accross the water? these players were two of the lges shining lights and are now on the way back to Ireland with their tails between their legs. if they couldnt make it in that bog standard of football do you really think they are international class?

NeilMcD

20/02/2008, 2:18 PM

Jbyrne while some of your point may be correct, how the hell do they have their tails between their legs. That would only make sense if they slagged the LOI after they left etc.

jbyrne

20/02/2008, 2:34 PM

Jbyrne while some of your point may be correct, how the hell do they have their tails between their legs. That would only make sense if they slagged the LOI after they left etc.

fair enough. but did george ocallaghan not fall out with city before he left? perhaps i used the wrong phrase but the point remains the same

Billsthoughts

20/02/2008, 4:33 PM

absolutely hillarious. i can only assume this refers to the non existance of some eircom lge players in the team (given that 90% of the Irish team are Irish born)? remind me again how jason byrne and george ocallaghan got on in the championship accross the water? these players were two of the lges shining lights and are now on the way back to Ireland with their tails between their legs. if they couldnt make it in that bog standard of football do you really think they are international class?

I think you "only assumed" incorrectly there. Maybe you should go read the actual post instead of pushing your own agenda. Lots of English Premier League players have been failures abroad. Does that mean the Premier League is sh*te?

cavan_fan

21/02/2008, 9:08 AM

I think you "only assumed" incorrectly there. Maybe you should go read the actual post instead of pushing your own agenda. Lots of English Premier League players have been failures abroad. Does that mean the Premier League is sh*te?

Really, who would they be?

Billsthoughts

21/02/2008, 10:18 AM

Dennis Law.
The point I was making is that TonyD never said that the national team should be made up of el players. He just said it was the attitude of majority of National team fans towards his team made it difficult for him to have much sympathy for the travails of the national team. Jbyrne assumed he was saying the National team should have more EL players. I merely pointed out he never said that.
A well supported league would in turn lead to stronger domestic clubs. Stronger domestic clubs may be able to hold on to / develop talent. This would have a knock on effect on the amount of players available to the national team. So as an IRELAND FAN I think people should support the domestic game as much as they can. And not knock it continuously.

TonyD

21/02/2008, 12:29 PM

Dennis Law.
The point I was making is that TonyD never said that the national team should be made up of el players. He just said it was the attitude of majority of National team fans towards his team made it difficult for him to have much sympathy for the travails of the national team. Jbyrne assumed he was saying the National team should have more EL players. I merely pointed out he never said that.

Your interpretation of my post is 100% accurate Bill. I can only assume jbyrne didn't read it as carefully as you did:p. And to jbyrne, I don't think I said Jason Byrne or George O'Callaghan, or any EL player, was good enough for the Irish team, did I ? (in fact I've posted the exact opposite in a discussion on the EL forum) Finally, to Neil, who said I was on the wrong forum - I try not to post too much on the Ireland section here (damn, just when I thought I was out, they drag me back in:D) I suppose I do have a passing interest, but I just don't consider myself a supporter of the Irish team anymore.