Trapattoni appointed Ireland coach - Confirmed

[Drumcondra 69er]

Slight contradiction. Duff went up front and it stayed 4-4-2. The substitution didn't lose* us that game imo. We started off really well and after 18-20 minutes the tempo dropped completely. Israel's 2 best attacks came before Keane was taken off. A freak goal (header from outside the box) and a silly peno given away (after a miskick from Given) got their 2 goals. On overall play we deserved to win 5-0.

Okay Brian. ;)

I disagree, Duff didn't go and play as an out and out forward, he moved in from the left and played in behind Morrison (and wasn't that effective bar one good effort). My point about the 3 positional changes stands and imo it was those changes that caused the tempo to drop. Fair enough it was a mistake from Given compounded by O'Shea for the penalty but had we maintained our tempo we it wouldn't have been an issue. 5-0?? Come on!

And both goals came after Keane was taken off, I'd call them their 2 best attacks.....

[eirebhoy]

I don't know I can't remember anymore so I'm just going off my thoughts at the time. I watched the match afterwards and the first half an hour about 5 times since. The tempo dropped before Keane went off. Israel were well in the game before he was taken off. We still played very, very well over the 90 minutes and created tons of chances.

Sorry then, not 5-0. I'll give them the peno. 5-1 could easily have been the scoreline with a bit more fortune.

[Drumcondra 69er]

I don't know I can't remember anymore so I'm just going off my thoughts at the time. I watched the match afterwards and the first half an hour about 5 times since. The tempo dropped before Keane went off. Israel were well in the game before he was taken off. We still played very, very well over the 90 minutes and created tons of chances.

Sorry then, not 5-0. I'll give them the peno. 5-1 could easily have been the scoreline with a bit more fortune.

Okay, tempo started to drop before just before Keane went off as he had picked up his knock and was a passenger. That could have been sorted by putting Elliot on for a straight swap in my view but was instead compounded by having 3 players move into new positions.

I thought we huffed and puffed second half and dunno how you could reckon we deserved 3 goals from those 45 minutes, their keeper made a few decent saves but was hardly world class even discounting his antics.

[eirebhoy]

As I said, I can't remember now but those were my thoughts at the time. We destroyed them. Anyway, it's over now. :)

[Drumcondra 69er]

As I said, I can't remember now but those were my thoughts at the time. We destroyed them. Anyway, it's over now. :)

Yeah but the wounds inflicted that day run deep!! :D

[TerryPhelan]

Eirebhoy, can you post the Ireland-Israel footage online somewhere please? Masochistic and all as it sounds, I'd be really keen to take a look at it again if at all possible.

Muchos gracias!

[cudsy1]

nice article

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2011/0526/1224297785767.html

and suggestion

He also, it seems, could do with replacing Liam Brady. A younger, former Ireland player might help to provide a bridge between the rest of the management team and the players... somebody who has earned their stripes, knows the current crop and his way around the Premier League would be pretty good. If Kevin Kilbane was hanging up his boots over the summer then he would fit the bill rather nicely.

[SwanVsDalton]

Malone seems to be advocating a hardline while not overtly criticising the players, which is a little weird. I like his idea of replacing Liam Brady though, or having a young coach as a direct line to the players - couldn't Alan Kelly fill that role?

[Deckydee]

Bit old this news no?

Ho! :devil:;)

[elroy]

nice article

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2011/0526/1224297785767.html

and suggestion

He also, it seems, could do with replacing Liam Brady. A younger, former Ireland player might help to provide a bridge between the rest of the management team and the players... somebody who has earned their stripes, knows the current crop and his way around the Premier League would be pretty good. If Kevin Kilbane was hanging up his boots over the summer then he would fit the bill rather nicely.

I think this is a good suggestion and Kilbane would appear to fit the bill. Although I side with Trap on the recent troubles with the younger lads, I think it would be no harm to have a recent ex player in the camp who the younger players could relate to. And also an ex player with a greater understanding of the British/Irish culture.

[AlaskaFox]

What's Steve Finnan doing these days?

[Stuttgart88]

A younger, former Ireland player might help to provide a bridge Anthony Stokes maybe

[John83]

What's Steve Finnan doing these days?

Anthony Stokes maybe
For a moment there, I thought Stutts was answering AlaskaFox and my jaw dropped.

[DannyInvincible]

For a moment there, I thought Stutts was answering AlaskaFox and my jaw dropped.

If only it was true, at least his tiredness would be justified.

[weldoninhio]

I think this is a good suggestion and Kilbane would appear to fit the bill. Although I side with Trap on the recent troubles with the younger lads, I think it would be no harm to have a recent ex player in the camp who the younger players could relate to. And also an ex player with a greater understanding of the British/Irish culture.

No point IMO, hopefully Trap only has 5 games at most left, then we can get an actual manager in rather than a massively expensive figurehead who relies on DVDs to gauge a players talent.

[paul_oshea]

Tardelli seems to be facing the media a lot more lately. I suppose there could be a couple of reasons for that.

[juan]

Tardelli seems to be facing the media a lot more lately. I suppose there could be a couple of reasons for that.
The FAI can't pay for Trapps interpreter?

[cudsy1]

wilson, andy reid, stokes and mccarthy arent considered for the remainder of traps reign

he is succeded by tardelli who declares that its a fresh start for everyone and all elegible players are welcome

what do people think of this scenario, likely? unlikely? correct? incorrect?

[SwanVsDalton]

I think doors still open for McCarthy and Wilson under Trap, but it'd likely depend on them keeping their nose clean. Tardelli would probably be a fresh start for all though Andy Reid would need more than a clean slate to resurrect his international career.

[geysir]

When Trap says "never say never" in relation to a player's future, you do begin to worry.

Nevertheless, Keith Tracey managed to get back on his good books.

[Noelys Guitar]

There is a good chance Trapatonni knows exactly what he is doing the last few days re airing his views on certain players. He was never going to play McCarthy against Macedonia. Wilson has been down the pecking order when available and again was unlikely to start against Macedonia (even with all the injuries, suspension at the back). Same goes for Folan and possibly Walters. Big up the Wolves players and the likes of Cox. Get the squad who do turn up ready for the big one next week. Quite clever really.

[Stuttgart88]

I'm not sure it's as calculated as that Noely.

However, I was at a talk by Clive Woodward a few years back and he was talking about how he picked his 30(?) man squad for WC 2003. He said he left some better players out in favour of having 30 positively minded, team spirited players out there. His view was that having just one "termite" in the camp with a moaning attitude could be enough to bring the whole house down.

Remember when Jack said he regretted taking Frank Stapleton to Italy over Gary Waddock? Frank just moaned and whinged the whole time.

If Trap is picking a squad of committed players who won't have hissy fits over whether they play or where they're asked to play, then that's fine by me. Andy Keogh and Paul McShane, for all our criticisms of them, are probably good lads to have around. Their commitment is undoubted. Cox's noises have been very encouraging. Ward's interview in the Herald last month was great. And so on...

[Stuttgart88]

Pretty damning stuff here from Dion Fanning (http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/the-madness-in-his-method-2660616.html) claiming that Trap didn't even know Harte is Irish

[Drumcondra 69er]

Pretty damning stuff here from Dion Fanning (http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/the-madness-in-his-method-2660616.html) claiming that Trap didn't even know Harte is Irish

That is shocking if true but I'd find that incredibly hard to believe. Fanning has had an anti Trap agenda ever since his massive cheerleading for Venables to be given the job came to naught...

[geysir]

Tardelli was asked about Harte last month,
"Ian Harte is a good player, he's got good quality, but we have young players with the same qualities. We look for the future."

[Deckydee]

Giovanni Trapattoni - Honorary Irishman??

Jack got it, I think he should too.

[OwlsFan]

Giovanni Trapattoni - Honorary Irishman??

Jack got it, I think he should too.

Jack got us to three Finals (including our first ever after years in the wilderness) and did reasonably well at them all. No comparison as yet.

[nigel-harps1954]

Should we give one to Mick McCarthy too so?

[tetsujin1979]

Jack got us to three Finals (including our first ever after years in the wilderness) and did reasonably well at them all. No comparison as yet.Wasn't he given it after Italia '90?

Should we give one to Mick McCarthy too so?Give it a rest, Mick has an Irish passport, that's as official as it gets

[tetsujin1979]

Zonal Marking on Ireland under Trapattoni: http://www.zonalmarking.net/2011/11/16/trapattoni-ireland-tactics-euro-2012/

[nigel-harps1954]

Wasn't he given it after Italia '90?
Give it a rest, Mick has an Irish passport, that's as official as it gets

Wasn't trying to be an ass about it. Just think it's a silly comment to make regarding Trap. Sure if we get quarter finals or semi-finals of Euros and qualify for WC next time, I'm all for it. Mentioning it now though?

[Deckydee]

Jack got it when he returned from Euro 88

[tommy_c12000]

According to Darragh Maloney on Premiership, sunday papers are reporting Trap's new contract has been agreed in principle, but not signed yet. Salary down to 1.5m/yr

[tommy_c12000]

http://www.rte.ie/aertel/221-01.html

(http://www.rte.ie/aertel/221-01.html)

[Deckydee]

Contract Agreed - http://www.fai.ie/international/senior-men/102257-fai-announces-new-agreement-with-giovanni-trapattoni.html

[shakermaker1982]

Well he deserves it.

I've been a (mild) critic in the past of the style and reliance on the long ball but if we keep getting results then I cannot really grumble. Onwards and upwards.

[DannyInvincible]

I don't think anyone could argue he's undeserving of a new contract. I'll admit, I've also been critical of the style and thought we were pushing our luck at times, but you can't argue with the progress we've made since Trap has taken over. If we're consistently "lucky", then it's probably fair to attribute that more to something else than just "luck".

[DeLorean]

We're very lucky to have him. Given his age when he was appointed, I assumed we'd have him to steady the ship for one campaign at worst, or even to create a miracle and qualify at best. To have a manager of his calibre for three campaigns is fantastic. In a way it would have been easy for him to go out on a high after to Euros but he obviously really likes being our manager which is great.

[IsMiseSean]

We're very lucky to have him. Given his age when he was appointed, I assumed we'd have him to steady the ship for one campaign at worst, or even to create a miracle and qualify at best. To have a manager of his calibre for three campaigns is fantastic. In a way it would have been easy for him to go out on a high after to Euros but he obviously really likes being our manager which is great.

Agree with everything said by DeLorean. Great to have him on board for WC2014 campaign. It's a tricky group but Trap is the man to guide us through it.

[Sullivinho]

Good news, glad to hear it.

Michael D. and Trap are the men to lead us forward. If Lord of the Rings taught us anything, it's that old, white-haired geezers know their s**t.

[Mr A]

Good news, glad to hear it.

Michael D. and Trap are the men to lead us forward. If Lord of the Rings taught us anything, it's that old, white-haired geezers know their s**t.

Deep.

And appropriate given Gandalf's famous quote was "You shall not pass".

Works on so many levels.

[Bayern Munchies]

Well deserved, to think how much he has steadied the ship since he took over is crazy when you think about it. Done a very very good job and would have had us qualified for two major tournaments IMO if it wasn't for that handball.

But my only criticism is not giving young lads a chance which I hope changes once the next set of qualifiers begin. We're going through a good phase of producing a great bunch of youngsters and I hope they don't go to waste. But it is deserved anyway. Fair play Trap

[Deckydee]

Just found this: (Sorry if already posted)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pAt2WUlKyQ&feature=related