FAI Cup final may not go ahead?!

[Pablo]

jez its great to see cork riding to the high moral ground on all our behalfs ..cant see to many other clubs caring to much about this issue and neither would cork if they were not in the final..

And its that kind of mentality that has football in this country in the dark ages. :rolleyes:

City and Longford have stood together on this, and so should everyone else.

[micls]

jez its great to see cork riding to the high moral ground on all our behalfs ..cant see to many other clubs caring to much about this issue and neither would cork if they were not in the final..

But you'd care if it was you, and you will care when it is you in the next few years. FAI believe they can do anything they want anytime they want regardless fo the rules they have laid out saying they cant. This wont be the last time it happens.

Im glad we're standing up to them but I dont expect anyone else to care, although I think I would even if we werent in the final. Its just another example of the FAI's disregard for our league.

[MariborKev]

Aidan Tynan's Fantasy: The owners of all the other "progressive" clubs get riled up about this. They swear blindly that they will not take part in any FAI competitions. For fear of losing their prize assets, the FAI back down, and remove the FAI wage cap for clubs with a turnover of over €1million.

Closing stable door after horse has bolted.

Everyone knew what they were signing up for under the shiny new League. The wage cap was clearly stated. Positive comments from lots of those involved with "big clubs" over how it was a good thing for the League. No point crying about it now.....

[micls]

Everyone knew what they were signing up for under the shiny new League. The wage cap was clearly stated. Positive comments from lots of those involved with "big clubs" over how it was a good thing for the League. No point crying about it now.....

Thing is though Tynan and co. didnt sign up for the new league....obviously its tough they bought the club knowing what was signed up to but that doesnt mean they wont try to change it.

[Lim till i die]

Thing is though Tynan and co. didnt sign up for the new league....obviously its tough they bought the club knowing what was signed up to but that doesnt mean they wont try to change it.

Oh right so what this is actually about is Cork wanting all the other clubs to rally round so that they can be allowed ride rock solid over the rules they signed up to and ultimately buy the league now that they have a few bob.


Im glad we're standing up to them but I dont expect anyone else to care, although I think I would even if we werent in the final. Its just another example of the FAI's disregard for our league.

All very grand

I don't remember you standing up when the FAI was killing my club mind

[micls]

Oh right so what this is actually about is Cork wanting all the other clubs to rally round so that they can be allowed ride rock solid over the rules they signed up to and ultimately buy the league now that they have a few bob.

Yeah thats exactly it......:rolleyes:




All very grand

I don't remember you standing up when the FAI was killing my club mind

What me personally? I thought what they did was a disgrace....not sure what exactly I was supposed to do about it though, other than add it to the list of reasons I hate the FAI

[Celdrog]

Micls - did you ever find the release where the FAI said the prizemoney was €100K. I still can't find it anywhere.

[micls]

Micls - did you ever find the release where the FAI said the prizemoney was €100K. I still can't find it anywhere.

No. Ive posted on our forum to see if anyone has it. Im sure the clubs have a copy of what was named prize money when they signed up anyway.

Hopefully tomorrow will clear it up

[dcfcsteve]

jez its great to see cork riding to the high moral ground on all our behalfs ..cant see to many other clubs caring to much about this issue and neither would cork if they were not in the final..

Why is everyone singling Cork out alone over this ? :confused:

It appears that both them and Longford are unhappy with the situation, and are tackling the FAI over it. Yet it's only Cork that everyone's gurning about.

Maybe the truth would only get on the way of a good opportunity to knock the Langers... :eek:

[Pablo]

Why is everyone singling Cork out alone over this ? :confused:

It appears that both them and Longford are unhappy with the situation, and are tackling the FAI over it. Yet it's only Cork that everyone's gurning about.

Maybe the truth would only get on the way of a good opportunity to knock the Langers... :eek:


Or to trot out the old RRS chestnut

[Lim till i die]

What me personally? I thought what they did was a disgrace....not sure what exactly I was supposed to do about it though, other than add it to the list of reasons I hate the FAI

Fine I'll add Cork being screwed out of a few euro to my list aswell

It will be somewhere in the middle though between Clinton Morrison and John Delaneys hair


Why is everyone singling Cork out alone over this ?

Personally, I genuinely thought they were the only ones making a fuss

Must have missed all the Longford bleating

[dcfcsteve]

Personally, I genuinely thought they were the only ones making a fuss

Must have missed all the Longford bleating

Have you bothered to read the rest of this thread......?:confused:

[Mr A]

In all fairness Cork seem to have taken the lead on this with Longford relatively quieter.

It also strikes me as yet another own goal by senior football- and to my mind both the clubs and the FAI are to blame. Instead of fighting this battle via the press it should have been done in private if at all possible, and it does not appear to me that that was the case.

[bigmac]

Have you bothered to read the rest of this thread......?:confused:

Yeah, I have, and I must have missed all the Longford fans complaining about it.
I must also have missed the pieces about it on the Longford website, and this piece must have accidentally slipped onto the website instead.



The Irish Independent had a piece on Saturday saying that Cork City are threatening to boycott the Cup Final if they don't get more money. Don't believe a word of it, they'll be there as it's their only route to Europe.

But make sure you're there too. During a recent trip up there on Saturday, there's only one covered stand so make sure you get the correct tickets, you know what our weather in December can be like.

Also book your Supporters' Club bus tickets as son as you can too. Ring poor auld Liam on 087 6141926 , but not after midnight from the pub,please. The Supporters' Club have bought large and medium flags which are selling well so get yours , we're actually selling them cheaper than for the last Cup Final. Don't buy off hawkers as the Club won't benefit.



City and Longford have stood together on this, and so should everyone else.
Doesn't look that way from where I'm standing

[Macy]

Yeah, the supporters club notes from the website are the place to find how the Committee are thinking and what they are doing...

[dcfcsteve]

Yeah, I have, and I must have missed all the Longford fans complaining about it.

Doesn't look that way from where I'm standing

I'll do my 'care in the community' bit for you then, and quote the bits of Longford fans complaining on this thread that have somehow managed to pass you by :


just spoke to a commitee member earlier we are backing cork city on this as well! hopefully there will be a compromise!


Town punished for both breaking the rules and insisting on sticking to them in the same season...


It's irrelevant anyway, since it's not in the FAI's or those 4 clubs power to make such a change, as per FAI rules.

P.S. My first ever use of Multi-quote ! :) Thanks DaHamsta !

[bigmac]

My read on the situation, both Longford protestors notwithstanding, is that Longford are happy enough to go along behind Cork if it may mean extra money, but have no intention of boycotting the cup final, or complaining in public about the money on offer - probably because they're happy enough with what they'll get.
My point about the supporters club is not that they reflect the committee's view, but rather that they represent the view of Longford supporters.

[Lim till i die]

Have you bothered to read the rest of this thread......?:confused:

All of it??

Good Heavens no

Skimming, just skimming

[jebus]

Have you bothered to read the rest of this thread......?:confused:

Wow, 2 Longford fans being mildly put out constitutes Longford bleating now? This is a RRS thread, nothing more, nothing less

[fitzknows]

Anyone else get the feeling that Arkaga are a bunch of penny pinching misers. For all their brash talk at the start it doesn't look like they're going to release the funds that would enable Cork to compete financially with Pats & Bohs over the next few years.

[micls]

it doesn't look like they're going to release the funds that would enable Cork to compete financially with Pats & Bohs over the next few years.

What are you basing this on?

Afaik there is plenty of money available for players

[GavinZac]

Anyone else get the feeling that Arkaga are a bunch of penny pinching misers. For all their brash talk at the start it doesn't look like they're going to release the funds that would enable Cork to compete financially with Pats & Bohs over the next few years.

Er, no? Arkaga want more than anyone for football in this country to be run properly. I mean, they stand to LOSE money by their actions here, and they are offering the prize money in total to the players to win it. scrooges :rolleyes:

[dcfcsteve]

Wow, 2 Longford fans being mildly put out constitutes Longford bleating now? This is a RRS thread, nothing more, nothing less

You'll clearly see whatever you want to see Jebus....

[damien]

all sorted out now fai backdown and give the clubs what they wanted

[Ronnie]

Where did you hear that?

[damien]

in the examiner today

[damien]

the fai RRS for a change

[Pablo]

Cup finalists win battle for royalties

Cork City and Longford Town have won their battle to hold onto their share of their royalties from TV revenue and ticket sales at this year's FAI Cup Final.
Represenatives of both clubs went to meet the domestic football committee in Dublin yesterday and were told in no uncertain terms to abide by what they had agreed to in Portmarnock in October. However, in a dramatic turnaround, both clubs were contacted by the FAI not long after the meeting and in reponse to Cork and Longford apparently holding their ground, decided to accede to their demands. A club source at Cork City expressed delight at what they termed a "victory against the FAI"

FAI RRS?

To everyone in this thread questioning us for the sake of it, you know where you can shove your jealousy ;)

[superfrank]

Fair play to yez.

[Ronnie]

So do we take it that clubs will get ticket/tv share on top of prizemoney? Or will the prizemoney dewindle?

[dcfcsteve]

It's clear from that statement that it was a joint Cork-Longford initiative.

I'm not sure how wise it is to be quoted in the press talking about "Victory" over the FAI. Delaney is a petty little Hitler and bears grudges. That quote will come back to bite Cork if he has his way.

[michaelguineys]

Delighted with this!
First time ever i can recall the FAIlure backing down on something!

[tiktok]

FAI.ie

"The Football Association of Ireland wishes to refute the suggestion made in today’s edition of the Irish Examiner that it has agreed to withdraw the financial package put in place for the 2007 FAI Ford Cup Final. As far the Football Association of Ireland is concerned the financial package outlined to the four semi-finalists at a meeting on October 10 remains in place. The winners and runners-up of the competition will receive guaranteed payments of €100,000 and €75,000 respectively."

So are CCFC/Longford or the FAI the ones engaged in spin now?

[CollegeTillIDie]

But the powers that be in the F.A.I. can just change the rules again to suit themselves at the next A.G.M.

[Ronnie]

Eh, someone got this wrong, FAI said no change on their site.

[GavinZac]

They've U-turned again! They're embarrassing themselves at this stage

[dcfcsteve]

FAI.ie

"The Football Association of Ireland wishes to refute the suggestion made in today’s edition of the Irish Examiner that it has agreed to withdraw the financial package put in place for the 2007 FAI Ford Cup Final. As far the Football Association of Ireland is concerned the financial package outlined to the four semi-finalists at a meeting on October 10 remains in place. The winners and runners-up of the competition will receive guaranteed payments of €100,000 and €75,000 respectively."

So are CCFC/Longford or the FAI the ones engaged in spin now?

The FAI tried to renege on their original deal, which they either negotiated in error (their fault) or they panicked about when they considered likely attendance at the final (that's football).

So they are being truthful when they say they're honouring the original deal. It's just that they spent the last week trying to get out of that deal. So it's spin from their side to save face.

[A face]

I'm not sure how wise it is to be quoted in the press talking about "Victory" over the FAI. Delaney is a petty little Hitler and bears grudges. That quote will come back to bite Cork if he has his way.

It can do one of two things:

1. It was make people sit up and realise the clubs dont want to get messed about all the time and maybe this will go some way to changing attitudes of the administrators of our league. Something that will benefit everyone

2. People can bear grudges, and they are acted upon and no one wins as a result. And next time the FAI need to list out X, Y and Z when asked about what they are doing people may be aware of the grudge and lack of cooperation and their list might not carry so much weight.


The thing is, there is no room for grudges in this game as there are so many obstacles there already. If everyone adopts a professional attitude and gets on with the job (god knows there loads of work to do) them we might actually see progress, if not then ..... well, you all know the rest.

[dcfcsteve]

It can do one of two things:

1. It was make people sit up and realise the clubs dont want to get messed about all the time and maybe this will go some way to changing attitudes of the administrators of our league. Something that will benefit everyone

That relates to the outcome, not the quote form Cork which could be considered as triumphalism.


2. People can bear grudges, and they are acted upon and no one wins as a result.

The thing is, there is no room for grudges in this game as there are so many obstacles there already. If everyone adopts a professional attitude and gets on with the job (god knows there loads of work to do) them we might actually see progress, if not then ..... well, you all know the rest.

I agree with you 100%. But this is the FAI we're talking about. Since when did they do what was fair and in the interests of Irish football over what was in the interests of their own individual needs, wants and positions...?

[Réiteoir]

They've U-turned again! They're embarrassing themselves at this stage

or the simple fact that the Examiner have been using the same people as the IFA did with this Eligibility thing and got it spectacularly wrong.

Examiner embarrassing themselves at this stage.

[Superhoops]

....The thing is, there is no room for grudges in this game as there are so many obstacles there already. If everyone adopts a professional attitude and gets on with the job (god knows there loads of work to do) them we might actually see progress, if not then ..... well, you all know the rest.

Does that include your long running grudge against Pat Devlin or is that different?

[GavinZac]

Does that include your long running grudge against Pat Devlin or is that different?
A grudge implies that it is in the past. Devlin still has his fingers in many pies.

[Superhoops]

A grudge implies that it is in the past. Devlin still has his fingers in many pies.

What dictionary did you get that out of?

[GavinZac]

What dictionary did you get that out of?

:/ what? You "bear a grudge" against someone because of some perceived wrong action of somebody in the past. I've had lots of people say they dislike me, very few say "I grudge you."

[Risteard]

Negotiations ongoing.

[superfrank]

:/ what? You "bear a grudge" against someone because of some perceived wrong action of somebody in the past. I've had lots of people say they dislike me, very few say "I grudge you."
A face's sig is:

Devlin is regression!
That is in the present Gav.

[GavinZac]

A face's sig is:

That is in the present Gav.

er... yeah. Thats what I said: His (our) disliking of Devlin is not a grudge. Grudge carries negative connotations implying that its often merely personal and that since its in the past you should move on. And as I said, Devlin still has his fingers in many pies; it isnt a grudge, its just an intense disliking of his actions.

[superfrank]

er... yeah. Thats what I said: His (our) disliking of Devlin is not a grudge. Grudge carries negative connotations implying that its often merely personal and that since its in the past you should move on. And as I said, Devlin still has his fingers in many pies; it isnt a grudge, its just an intense disliking of his actions.
So what happens when he retires?

Will you still dislike him then? Will it be a grudge or not??

[GavinZac]

So what happens when he retires?

Will you still dislike him then? Will it be a grudge or not??

I'll still dislike his actions. And his whiskey-red nose. Is that a grudge? Regardless, its one thing for an irrational football fan to bear a grudge against a rival manager, quite another for a football association to bear one against a club.

[superfrank]

I'll still dislike his actions. And his whiskey-red nose. Is that a grudge? Regardless, its one thing for an irrational football fan to bear a grudge against a rival manager, quite another for a football association to bear one against a club.
Where's your evidence?

Aren't there two teams in a cup final?