Dunphy

[an_ceannaire]

alright fair enuff, maybe me blue tinted glasses got the better of me there :D
still better than stan tho!

[tetsujin1979]

If you dont think Howard Kendall would be a good choice your mad!
2 leagues, 1 fa cup and a ECWC with an average Everton side!! When Liverpool were murdering everyone!!!
Ya thats poor alright!
Everton under Kendall had Neville Southall, Andy Gray, Peter Reid and Gary Lineker. Hardly average.
What's he done since then? Sacked at Athletic Bilbao, sacked from Everton (twice) - and only managed to keep them up on the last day in one season.
Sacked at Notts County after 3 months
Sacked at Ethnikos Piraeus in Greece after 4 months in March 1999 and hasn't managed since. That'll be 9 years out of management by the time the spring friendlies roll around.

[an_ceannaire]

tetsujin
i have conceded on the kendall front !:o

[lionelhutz]

Everton under Kendall had Neville Southall, Andy Gray, Peter Reid and Gary Lineker. Hardly average.
What's he done since then? Sacked at Athletic Bilbao, sacked from Everton (twice) - and only managed to keep them up on the last day in one season.
Sacked at Notts County after 3 months
Sacked at Ethnikos Piraeus in Greece after 4 months in March 1999 and hasn't managed since. That'll be 9 years out of management by the time the spring friendlies roll around.

Staunton was 37 years out of management when he took over............

[an_ceannaire]

:D:D:D

[OwlsFan]

load of rubbish
people dont like him because he is harsh and tells the truth.
Charlton WAS a long ball merchant who did not utilise our world class Midfield, and McCarthy WAS a beligerent ego maniac who couldnt handle a player being more important than him so he picked a fight.

Dunphy doesnt fit the Irish stereotype of "ah sure he is a great man, doing his best, thats all we can ask" "Ah sure we are only a small country, sure taking part is all that counts"

Its a load of ****e and He was the first man with the cahones to say it and has been vilified ever since. Dunphy talks more sense then every other "pundit" put together, with the possible exception of John "The Don" Giles.


Andy Townsend will be delighted to be called world class. I am afraid your attitude it typical Irish. Knock the people who have succeeded where others before them failed. Remind me about what grants Dunphy the right to criticise any manager? What has he managed, other than 10 G&Ts a night?

I saw far better Irish teams than Jack's not qualify for World Cups, including those with Giles as manager. It's easy to say, we could have done better if we played a different style of football but you don't know that. We might have just as easily got no where and the likes of Ray Houghton and John Aldridge and others may never have declared for us if Jack wasn't the manager. If my aunty had balls she'd be my uncle. I didn't give two hoots about the style of football we played. We got to three championships under him and the begrudgers like you and your non-entity hero can go and speculate all you want. I live in the real world of what people actually achieved. And thanks also to Mick for Korea/Japan and to Robbie for that last minute equaliser against Germany. I shall never forget them.

[jebus]

The kinda fellas we should be looking for
Souness....yes i said Souness!!
Jewell
O'Leary
Tommy Burns
Keegan
Venables
Kendall


Souness is the man for that job, well himself or Jewell, but I'd go for Souness any day of the week. O'Leary isn't a national manager by style, Keegan and Venables are washed up, what that makes Tommy Burns I'd shudder to think, and is Howard still alive?

By the by, i think Dunphy is spot on in his assestment of Ronaldo as being over-rated, though he does go over the top a bit on him

[Irish_Praha]

Mike Newell

[CollegeTillIDie]

Dunphy said Wimbledon( under Sam Hammam) would be playing English Premier Division football from Dublin in 1996. He said all the clubs in the Premiership and the FA would not have any objection. I was in a supporter's group which said they wouldn't be allowed by either FIFA or UEFA to do so. Our views were dismissed.
The Media here swallowed Eamon's story hook line and sinker. Only The Title even printed the other point of view. Our supporter's grouping were proved correct.
When the Dublin move failed they were touted as moving to Cardiff. Some years later and having sold his shares in Wimbledon ,Sam Hammam had to buy Cardiff City to be able to work towards getting a Premier League club based there.

A few years back Wimbledon's fans formed a club called AFC Wimbledon who are still in London and operating in the Lower Leagues. I believe the next owners of Wimbledon moved to Milton Keynes and are now operating out of Division 4 ( or whatever it is called this week)

[backstothewall]

I think it is quite clear Dunphy is a walking opinion, but even a broken clock is right twice a day, and he nailed it tonight.

His analysis was spot on. He didn't critisise the players, as there is no point any more. He was right to focus on the main isues at stake; a sellout with empty seats, no direction, no game plan, tactically naive, outplayed, out fought.

Cyprus were all heart, hard work, and a good gameplan. I used to be from a country that had a team like that.

But its more than Dunphy. Brady, who admitted last month that it was hard for him to critisise a friend of his, was as passionate as i have ever seen him that Staunton must go.

How long can this carry on??

Whether or not Dunphy is a gob****e is beside the point

[drinkfeckarse]

Agreed. Didn't see RTE last night but from what I've read of the panels comments, they seem to have been spot on and focused on the right points.

[Dotsy]

I agree. I watched it after getting home from the match and Dunphy expressed very well the feelings of everyone supporter I know. He was much more composed than normal whereas Brady was more animated than I have seen him before.

[Dodge]

It was funny though when Dunphy said players shouldn't attack the manager...

[Billsthoughts]

had a bit of a giggle at that myself.....

[OwlsFan]

Can we please ban all mention of Dunphy? The guy's an idiot. Only in Ireland could someone with that little ability at anything make a living.

Now he's the messiah because he's attacking Stan when 95% of all fans have said since the beginning that the Stan appointment was bizarre :rolleyes:. Just surprised he isn't supporting Stan since that would be more his forte.

[superfrank]

Dunphy is fanning the fires against Steve Staunton.

Ireland played well against Germany and he praised the players. They played badly last night and he criticised the manager. Am the ony one who thinks last nights's performance has something to do with the players being underachievers in the small games. 2-1 v. San Marino, the two Cyprus games, even the Slovakia results don't cover themselves in glory.

Imo, last night's performance was down to the ineptitude of the players to perform in an "easy" match and not down to the manager, as Dunphy would have it. He said nobody should criticise the players, well they should because it is the players fault for last night's debacle.

Maybe Staunton's not a great motivator and maybe a better manager would have prepared them better and drilled home the fact that the macth wouldn't be easy, but the fact remains once the players step onto the pitch it's all down to them. And they didn't do it. Where was the performance from Saturday night?

I think Dunphy is wrong and he's going a long way to jeopardising Staunton's career.

[Stuttgart88]

Despite all his inconsistencies and his populism I think Dunphy's an important voice at the moment given the FAI propoganda machine and the culling of any oppoprtunity to voice dissent.

I mentioned to my mates on Saturday that our situation is like living under communism. You know it can be better but you're powerless to change anything.

[an_ceannaire]

Superfrank....coach or no coach...in the interest of free speech in this board.....i think this is the stupidest thing I have ever read in my life
"I think Dunphy is wrong and he's going a long way to jeopardising Staunton's career:

Dunphy is jeopradising Stans career....Dunphy....??!!!!!! Jebus Man!!! It's Stan is doing that! Not Dunphy!!!!!

[Noelys Guitar]

Despite all his inconsistencies and his populism I think Dunphy's an important voice at the moment given the FAI propoganda machine and the culling of any oppoprtunity to voice dissent.

I mentioned to my mates on Saturday that our situation is like living under communism. You know it can be better but you're powerless to change anything.

Just take a gander at the FAI site. Like something out of East Germany 1970's. Trying to control the story over all else. Remember the "Barney" individual who turned up on this site a few weeks back. Works for an agency contracted by the FAI (allegedly!).

[superfrank]

Superfrank....coach or no coach...in the interest of free speech in this board.....i think this is the stupidest thing I have ever read in my life
"I think Dunphy is wrong and he's going a long way to jeopardising Staunton's career:

Dunphy is jeopradising Stans career....Dunphy....??!!!!!! Jebus Man!!! It's Stan is doing that! Not Dunphy!!!!!
Look at the very first post in this thread. It says Dunphy claimed the Irish team were ordinary at the start of the campaign but after Saturday night he claimed the Irish team were good (or great, I can't check right now). From last night's performance ANYONE can tell that team is not good (or great). Then Dunphy comes out and says noone should criticise the players.....knowing very well who will get all the criticism if that's the attitude everyone takes up. Both these claims put more pressure on the manager.

Now, Staunton is no great manager. He shouldn't have been let near the job in the first place with his (lack of) experience. However he has the job now and the last thing he needs is "the people's voice" putting more unwarranted pressure on him with his recent comments.

[OwlsFan]

Despite all his inconsistencies and his populism I think Dunphy's an important voice at the moment given the FAI propoganda machine and the culling of any oppoprtunity to voice dissent.

I mentioned to my mates on Saturday that our situation is like living under communism. You know it can be better but you're powerless to change anything.

Dunphy an important voice!!?? Where is the FAI propaganda other than it voicing its own opinion to support its position rightly or wrongly. Is that propaganda? Nearly all the media and nearly all the fans rightly in my opinion don't think Stan is the man for the job so what makes Dunphy any different? He has personally and vehimently attacked every manager since Johnny Giles so plus ca change, except on this occasion he may have a point.

[Billsthoughts]

He has personally and vehimently attacked every manager since Johnny Giles so plus ca change, except on this occasion he may have a point.

get your own sayings...! He has and he does btw...

[Noelys Guitar]

Dunphy an important voice!!?? Where is the FAI propaganda other than it voicing its own opinion to support its position rightly or wrongly. Is that propaganda? Nearly all the media and nearly all the fans rightly in my opinion don't think Stan is the man for the job so what makes Dunphy any different? He has personally and vehimently attacked every manager since Johnny Giles so plus ca change, except on this occasion he may have a point.

For a start Delaney claiming that the fans stayed behind in Slovakia to cheer on Stan and the team . The "world Class" manager promised. Do you want me to go on?

[Stuttgart88]

Is that propaganda?

what makes Dunphy any different?

It's propoganda when Delaney says that fans stayed behind in prague to support the manager when Czech police kept them back for the usual security reasons.

Dunphy is only different because he's the most listened to. His opinion is no more important than any of the print media's but I don't hear too many people saying "did you read what Daniel MacDonnell wrote today?".

[lionelhutz]

Did anyone else hear Dunphy in the background last nite when RTE made a balls of the sound for the interview of stan - "this is some c**k up this is" - sums it all up really

[an_ceannaire]

Rte are a joke! I dont think i have EVER seen a single Six One news boradcast where there wasnt at least ONE technical glitch. Dobbo must be fit to kill!

[Dirk Diggler]

Staunton has to go. The players look more and more demorlised after every match. Last night's performance was the worst i've ever seen, and we all know there has been some brutal performances from ireland but we always had something about us that kept us hoping. This is a new low for irish soccer and change is needed. Delaney is accountable for the appointment of Staunton and should lose his job for it. Staunton himself should quit and save his own reputation he is after all an Irish internation legend. You can't name many players that have served Ireland as well as him. In international football you need a manager who can organise and get the best of the players available to him. International football isn't that great any longer, look at NI and scotland both still in with a chance of qualifying going into their last matches and it says it all.

[osarusan]

Now, Staunton is no great manager. He shouldn't have been let near the job in the first place with his (lack of) experience. However he has the job now and the last thing he needs is "the people's voice" putting more unwarranted pressure on him with his recent comments.

To be honest, I'm not too concerned what Staunton needs, or how much pressure there is on him. Even if he were universally supported, granted every request, given everything he needs, he would still be an awful manager.

The best thing to do, for Ireland and Staunton, is to have some "mutual agreement" which releases him from his contract. Ireland will be able to start competing again, and Staunton may still have even a slight chance of having a future career.

[Roadend]

Laving the Stan out aside, who do people want in? Dunphy has droned on about the FAI needing to splash the cash to get in a world class "management team" I see no suggestions as to who should come in.

[an_ceannaire]

I would take O'Leary in a heartbeat
The man has managed!!! And done pretty well too. Failing him, Souness, El Tel, Dalglish, Graham Henry....Brian Clough's Corpse.....Anyone

[mackannovic]

I would take O'Leary in a heartbeat
The man has managed!!!

Me too, also if you look at the Villa and Leeds sides there were a lot of young players involved, his "babies" as he often reminded us, during his time. Not only has he managed but he's managed at a relatively high level in comparison to the likes of Jewel and Bruce, who's experience of European competition is non-existant. He's also played at a very high level with Arsenal.

[EastTerracer]

My favourite Dunphy-ism (just to reveal the ludicrous things he is capable of).....


After Ireland-Holland in 1983 Dunphy wrote about Liam Brady:
" He is often looked on as a great player. He is nothing of the kind. His performance on Wednesday was a disgrace, a monument to conceit adorned with vanity and self-indulgence, rendered all the more objectional by the swagger of his gait. He was deemed by many observers to have had a splendid game."


More seriously, the RTE panel has failed to really hold Delaney responsible for the current mess (Chippy has tried to be fair). Dunphy did go so far on Wednesday to say that John Delaney's credibility was shot to pieces but Bill O'Herlihy then jumped in to defend Delaney for the second time in 5 minutes. You do begin to wonder if there is an old-pals network in operation there.

[TonyD]

Laving the Stan out aside, who do people want in? Dunphy has droned on about the FAI needing to splash the cash to get in a world class "management team" I see no suggestions as to who should come in.

Let's remember that Dunphys choice last time was Ian Dowie :eek:(Now, granted, I'm sure he'd be better than Staunton, but hardly "world class")

[eirebhoy]

I must be the only person on here that would be in favour of Dowie. :) Put it this way, the only reason there's so many people backing Souness is because he talks a lot of sense on RTE. Listen to Dowie on the BBC, he certainly knows his stuff.

[bennocelt]

Can we please ban all mention of Dunphy? The guy's an idiot. Only in Ireland could someone with that little ability at anything make a living.


you obviously havent read his numerous books and excellent newspaper articles
:rolleyes:................he does usually get it right in the end..............re Roddy Doyle, Smith, Robinson, pat Kenny, etc

[OwlsFan]

you obviously havent read his numerous books and excellent newspaper articles
:rolleyes:................he does usually get it right in the end..............re Roddy Doyle, Smith, Robinson, pat Kenny, etc

Yes. like predicting Liverpoll hadn't a hope of winning the Champions League and beating Chelsea :rolleyes: If you attack 95% of the people, you're bound to get something right once in a while. Pat Kenny - isn't he still hosting the Late Late?

Every c*ck likes to crow on his own dunghill.

[HolylandsMan]

Someone will probably come on and name the Napoli manager and he will prove to be a legen but I don't care - Venables is SH!TE!

Venables would have been my choice before Stan got the job. He was the closest to winning a major tournament with England in 40 years (admittedly at home). He has the international experience and would be a decent man motivator.

[bennocelt]

Yes. like predicting Liverpoll hadn't a hope of winning the Champions League and beating Chelsea :rolleyes: If you attack 95% of the people, you're bound to get something right once in a while. Pat Kenny - isn't he still hosting the Late Late?

Every c*ck likes to crow on his own dunghill.

read books,
like "Only a Game" , one of the best football books ever written, or his books on U2 or Busby

his Last Word show was unmissable at the time

and his Indo Articles on Kenny and Robinson are infamous

but then he didnt think Liverpool would win a CL.......shock horror:rolleyes:

and pat Kenny ? your point was...........what exactly?:rolleyes:

[NeilMcD]

U2 book is terrible, so many errors in it. Very poorlyl researched. Only good bits are the bits about Dublin in the 40s 50s and 60s;

[OwlsFan]

read books,
like "Only a Game" , one of the best football books ever written, or his books on U2 or Busby

his Last Word show was unmissable at the time

and his Indo Articles on Kenny and Robinson are infamous

but then he didnt think Liverpool would win a CL.......shock horror:rolleyes:

and pat Kenny ? your point was...........what exactly?:rolleyes:

I have read "Only a Game". Can't remember anything significant about it and he's been living off the back of that cliche "one of the greatest football books ever written" for years. I preferred "The Team that jack Built" by Paul Rowan.

Prefer Matt Copper's Last Word. I try not to miss that.

If the Indo articles on Kenny and Robinson (Michael ?) are so "infamous", strange I have never heard anyone ever mentioning them unless that is the one where he called Kenny a plank? In which case I agree with him but in what other way was he right about Kenny who seems to be making a good living in RTE despite Dunphy's great insights apparently in to him.

It's not just Liverpool. He gets most predictions wrong and then blames the opposition for not living up to his expectations. But it's the saying (a) one week, and then (b) next week that I really love about the man. His quote about Mick Mc after we beat Holland is a case in point.

U2: see Neill Mc etc etc

[bennocelt]

I have read "Only a Game". Can't remember anything significant about it and he's been living off the back of that cliche "one of the greatest football books ever written" for years. I preferred "The Team that jack Built" by Paul Rowan.

Prefer Matt Copper's Last Word. I try not to miss that.

If the Indo articles on Kenny and Robinson (Michael ?) are so "infamous", strange I have never heard anyone ever mentioning them unless that is the one where he called Kenny a plank? In which case I agree with him but in what other way was he right about Kenny who seems to be making a good living in RTE despite Dunphy's great insights apparently in to him.

It's not just Liverpool. He gets most predictions wrong and then blames the opposition for not living up to his expectations. But it's the saying (a) one week, and then (b) next week that I really love about the man. His quote about Mick Mc after we beat Holland is a case in point.

U2: see Neill Mc etc etc

if thats the case so then how did Dunphy get to write books about U2, Busby and Roy Keane............a quality list wouldnt you think?

the articles he wrote have gone down in folklore.........i guess that it depends on your (biased) view on him, i know people who remember those articles and still talk about them. One friend even has the kenny article still (which is cool)

Kenny is good, but no one can deny that he goes all googly eyed when it comes to interviewing celebs or doing a "nice" story.
by the way Dunphy is also making a good living in RTE?

"Only A Game" is a classic, and i think most football people would agrre on this. May i suggest you reread again and take off the blinkers
"the team that jack" is good too, but hardly comparable

whatever you think about Dunphy.........people talk about him, people watch him and this thread will go on and on!

[OwlsFan]

In 2002, Dunphy became the first male host of the quiz show The Weakest Link, which aired on TV3, for just one series. In 2003, Dunphy was hired again by TV3 to host their new Friday night chat show, entitled The Dunphy Show. Pitted head-to-head with RTÉ's The Late Late Show, Dunphy's show lost the highly publicised "ratings war", and was cancelled before its original run was to conclude.

In September 2004, Dunphy took over the Breakfast Show slot on the Dublin radio station NewsTalk 106 from David McWilliams. The show tried to court controversy and listeners in equal measure. He failed to attract the large listenership predicted, with only a few additional thousand tuning in. Attempts to attract disaffected morning listeners with controversial social commentators like Amanda Brunker failed to connect with listeners. In June 2006 Dunphy announced his intention to leave NewsTalk 106, citing an inability to sustain the demands of an early morning schedule. His decision to leave Newstalk coincided with the announcement that the station had won a national broadcasting licence. Subsequent to his departure from Newstalk 106 rumours circulated, confirmed by Dunphy in the Evening Herald, that he had been suffering a mystery illness for some time which had made keeping to an early morning schedule difficult.

Just some of Dunphy's great "successes" listed in Wikipedia.

Just because you're talked about doesn't make you anything important. Britney Spears is in the news all the time.

This guy supported his friends, the Kilcoynes, in the sale of Milltown. He has no right whatsoever to talk about Irish football or to be listened to but it's a democracy we live in so if people like to listen to the personal attacks on people who have achieved more in the game than he has, that's their choice but it's not mine.

[OwlsFan]

if thats the case so then how did Dunphy get to write books about U2, Busby and Roy Keane............a quality list wouldnt you think?

Wrote a book about Roy Keane :confused: I thought that was supposed to be an "autobiography". All credit to autobiographies written by other people....

[CollegeTillIDie]

As a wiseman once said '' Opinions are like buttocks we all have a set of them... and some of them are full of sh1t!'' :D
And Dunphy's are no different .....

[osarusan]

People on here are obsessed with what he says.

True. He's the guy people love to hate.

I don't hate him myself, he talks a lot of nonsense at times, but does know a lot about the business side of football, and why things happen in the footballing world.

[Dodge]

People on here are obsessed with what he says. When was the last time you saw this messiah on any TV channel that wasn't Irish?

Because he can only be good if picked up by a British station. In fact nothing in Ireland is any good at all

[citizenerased]

Dunphys apt desciption of Pat kenny...

'The man is a talking jumper'

[OwlsFan]

Dunphys apt desciption of Pat kenny...

'The man is a talking jumper'

Owlsfan's apt description of Dunphy

"The man is a squawking dumper"

[geysir]

Owls, what are the chances that your missus will have Dunphy's latest blockbuster wrapped up under the christmas tree, for you with love?

[NeilMcD]

She will dress up in a Dunphy mask and a tweed sports jacket and a white shirt.