Wes Hoolahan (M Cambridge Utd b.1982)

[Stuttgart88]

I just read on BBC that Hughton has made 60 substitutions this season and not one has contributed a goal or an assist.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

The treatment of Hoolahan really saddens me. A manager that doesn't want to play him, against any kind of basic logic; club refuses to sell him - out of childish spite - to another club; Elmander, Van Wolfswinkel and Snodgrass play week in, week out despite playing ****e all season and failing to provide any assists or goals; no creativity in the team; baffling use of substitutes (always after 70 or 75 minutes; never work).

Hoolahan's only hope of game time is if Hughton gets sacked but time is running out. How typical that manager's are getting sacked left, right and center but Hughton sticks around like the proverbial turd that won't flush.

[liamoo11]

http://www.herald.ie/sport/soccer/teen-spirit-of-irish-is-on-rise-29989404.html

[Olé Olé]

The treatment of Hoolahan really saddens me. A manager that doesn't want to play him, against any kind of basic logic; club refuses to sell him - out of childish spite - to another club; Elmander, Van Wolfswinkel and Snodgrass play week in, week out despite playing ****e all season and failing to provide any assists or goals; no creativity in the team; baffling use of substitutes (always after 70 or 75 minutes; never work).

Hoolahan's only hope of game time is if Hughton gets sacked but time is running out. How typical that manager's are getting sacked left, right and center but Hughton sticks around like the proverbial turd that won't flush.

Snodgrass has consistently been Norwich's best attacking player. You're correct, however, regarding the other pair; they've been dross.

[SkStu]

http://www.herald.ie/sport/soccer/teen-spirit-of-irish-is-on-rise-29989404.html

I'm sure I could find out with a bit of googling but I'm lazy - how does Dimiaio qualify?

[DannyInvincible]

I'm sure I could find out with a bit of googling but I'm lazy - how does Dimiaio qualify?

I'd have to assume he has at least one Irish grandparent.

Aidan Fitzmaurice certainly isn't giving away any clues.


Although born in England and with Italian parents, Dimaio is playing for Ireland, having been capped at U17 level and is likely to feature for the U19s in their next bout of European Championship qualification in May.

[DeLorean]

how does Dimiaio qualify?

For Ireland?... or for the Wes Hoolahan thread?

[paul_oshea]

Perhaps it was resdency, born in England grew up in a chipper in the west of ireland or Dublin.

[geysir]

He has a good Irish name, there could well to be something more to his irishness than a few chips.

[BonnieShels]

I'm sure I could find out with a bit of googling but I'm lazy - how does Dimiaio qualify?

Cos he's from Mayo, Stu. Sheesh.

[paul_oshea]

He has a good Irish name, there could well to be something more to his irishness than a few chips.

I know of those foreigners who were a fan of highlander that had no connection to ireland who also gave their children an Irish name!

[geysir]

I know of those foreigners who were a fan of highlander that had no connection to ireland who also gave their children an Irish name!
i suspect that the people you claim to know are just a figment of your imagination or they are so wacky that they are the exception to the rule:)

[Stuttgart88]

Lots of American and Canadian snowboarders in the Olympics have Irish names. Patrick Deneen was one that stood out. Genetically we're really good at winter sports.

[geysir]

The only guy we had at the snow olympics was some lord who raced downhill on a serving tray. But if some canadian called Paddy did declare for us, you can assume he has some blood line connection.

[Stuttgart88]

Lord Clifton Wrottesley. He came 4th.

Seamus O'Connor did ok in the snowboarding. Cool green pants too. I think he's only 16.

[BonnieShels]

The only guy we had at the snow olympics was some lord who raced downhill on a serving tray. But if some canadian called Paddy did declare for us, you can assume he has some blood line connection.

How glib. I expect better from you.

http://foot.ie/threads/187198-Winter-Olympics-2014


Lord Clifton Wrottesley. He came 4th.

Seamus O'Connor did ok in the snowboarding. Cool green pants too. I think he's only 16.

He was unlucky in the end. Ah well. Should do better in 2018.

[geysir]

How glib. I expect better from you.
I used past tense.
Not referring to this Olympics.

But I suppose I couldn't care less about an Irish American at the winter olympics, not racing downhill on a tray on his belly but standing up on one.

Maybe Stu has some grá for the winter sports, we don't have enough snow for that in Iceland.

[Crosby87]

Stu is coaching the Canadian Curling team.

[Stuttgart88]

If all these bobsleigh / luge / skeleton events are all about pace, shouldn't we dust off Alan O'Brien?

[paul_oshea]

i suspect that the people you claim to know are just a figment of your imagination or they are so wacky that they are the exception to the rule:)

Perhaps, but I back it up at least, wacky or not! Also Richie Rooney will testify to that and his team at the Lobster ;)

Stutts he is indeed only 16 pretty good freestyling and the slopestyle. Interesting story of his heritage and general lineage.

[Stuttgart88]

What is that story?

[paul_oshea]

Father is a plastic, who was born over here. Mother is Russian. Grew up in San Diego(up to maine..) speaks Uk English, American English, Russian and Irish.

Ok I was lying about the Irish but the rest is true. There is also a subtle subtext in there too for anyone else who read what he listens to to get him going.

[geysir]

Perhaps, but I back it up at least, wacky or not! Also Richie Rooney will testify to that and his team at the Lobster ;)
Are you still on about that David Williams didn't choose the Western Pub location for his interview with Granny Rooney?
That Williams chose the location for his own comfort?
Your claim was and still is total bull. The location was chosen because it was Granny Rooney's place of comfort.
And now you're dragging this cráp around different threads, you are indeed desperate :)
.
historical 2004 (http://www.theguardian.com/media/2004/jul/11/pressandpublishing.football) Observer
"The Western Approaches - in drug- and crime-plagued Croxteth in inner-city Liverpool - was once Wayne Rooney's local and is still frequented by his father, siblings and cousins."

More recent 2010 Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1284117/The-real-Wayne-Rooney-How-working-class-kid-bleak-city-landscape-scarred-drugs-guns-murder-emerged-phenomenon.html)
"At the top of Storrington Avenue is the Western Approaches pub, where Rooney occasionally re-appears when visiting his mates from his new base in footballer-belt Cheshire."

[paul_oshea]

No Geysir I said the local pub closest to their residence on stonebridge was hte lobster. I didnt give any credence to a couple of articles you saw years ago around world cup time and walliams or is that williams? I gave a source from someone who actually grew up there and lived there - of which I pm'd the name.

But if you want some throwaway articles here you go:

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Meet-the-Rooneys-Wayne-Rooney-s-family-hoping-to-follow-in-Manchester-United-star-s-footsteps-in-pub-team-Cup-final-article25504.html

The last post I was not on about that, I didnt think you would cop the other bit, it was in relation to a song and music by The Dubliners which he listens to gearing up to the slopes.

[Fixer82]

If all these bobsleigh / luge / skeleton events are all about pace, shouldn't we dust off Alan O'Brien?

The simultaneously fastest and most nervous footballer I've ever seen

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

http://www.edp24.co.uk/sport/norwich-city-fc/wantaway_wes_hoolahan_s_new_adviser_was_never_clos e_to_engineering_a_january_exit_from_norwich_city_ for_the_irish_midfielder_1_3322776

More duplicity from Norwich. Again, the coincidental fact that Wes started 2 or 3 games in the build up to the transfer saga is brought up as if to indicate that Hoolahan is somehow in their plans. The only reason he played in any of those games is because they had 4 or 5 midfielders injured. He didn't play beforehand and he won't play again, unless Hughton is sacked.

It's getting to the stage where Hughton's reluctance to use him is becoming spiteful.

It would be fully understandable if they were in a better position without him in the team but the opposite is the case in pretty much everything; goals, assists, creativity, possession, points.

[Stuttgart88]

I suspect it's all down to relations between Norwich and Villa / Lambert. Or maybe they didn't want to strengthen another club possibly competing with Norwich to stay up.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Chris Hughton is favourite for the sack with the bookies.

Let's hope Tottenham beat Norwich this afternoon to hasten his demise and we never have him interfere with another Irish footballer's career again.

[tetsujin1979]

Hoolahan and Pilkington on the bench today

[Fixer82]

Chris Hughton is favourite for the sack with the bookies.

Let's hope Tottenham beat Norwich this afternoon to hasten his demise and we never have him interfere with another Irish footballer's career again.


What if he becomes Irish manager?

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

What if he becomes Irish manager?

I sincerely hope he doesn't.

Mick McCarthy is still relatively young in managerial terms though. He will probably be next manager after O'Neill and if not him, there are several British managers who would be better options.

[CraftyToePoke]

The Irish commentator on BBC5 (don't know his name) said just now that Elmander & Van Wolfswinkel have one goal and only six shots on target between them this season. He was fairly open about what he thought of that going by his tone when delivering the stat too. Hard to have time for Hughton re Holahan when you hear things like that.

[DeLorean]

They're nullifying Spurs but have absolutely no threat going forward. The best that Glenn Hoddle could come up with at half time was for Redmond and Snodgrass to swap sides! It's crying out for Wessi to be honest.

Edit:- Hughton ignores Hoddle's advice and Snodgrass gives Norwich the lead, cutting in from the right hand side. 1-0.

[Stuttgart88]

Hmm, he's Scottish isn't he. Boooo....

[Stuttgart88]

Wes coming on. 85 mins. Norwich desperately unlucky not to have just gone 2 up.

[DeLorean]

Well Holy God... guess who's coming on in the 85th minute??!!


Edit:- I would have probably got there first if I didn't milk it!

[tricky_colour]

Wes is on!!!!!

beaten to it by 3 mins!!

Would have been funny if Norwich lost lol

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

I wonder what the crowd reaction was like? It's his first appearance since he rightly called them a sh*thouse club.

[DeLorean]

They were buzzing when he got his first touch anyway, a tidy bit of play to relieve some pressure in his own half.

[Charlie Darwin]

Does anyone know if Wes got a run out lads?

[Stuttgart88]

Man of the match for me :)

[geysir]

I only saw the 2nd half but I didn't see one hit and hope ball into the box from Norwich, but plenty of emphasis on ball to feet . Let's hope Hughton continues to have faith and Wes' rehab is complete.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Neil Lennon is still being linked with the job.

[geysir]

Neil Lennon is still being linked with the job.
Linked in the last 30 minutes? where?

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Linked in the last 30 minutes? where?

*Sighs*

http://www1.skysports.com/football/transfer-paper-talk

[geysir]

*Sighs*

http://www1.skysports.com/football/transfer-paper-talk
I thought "still being linked" meant still being linked after the result today.
He's not still being linked because Norwich won. Norwich are not likely to change managers until their season is over, if their survival prospects look reasonable.

[Charlie Darwin]

Can't believe Neil Lennon is still going on about being Norwich manager to anyone who'll listen. It's insufferable :)

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Can't believe Neil Lennon is still going on about being Norwich manager to anyone who'll listen. It's insufferable :)

The joke doesn't work though because Lennon has made a few brief remarks about his links to the Norwich job as opposed to rhapsodizing about it after every Norwich/Celtic game or training session and Lennon would be a focal point as manager of Norwich as opposed to being a squad member competing for a squad place with several other defenders. :p

[Charlie Darwin]

The joke doesn't work though because Lennon has made a few brief remarks about his links to the Norwich job as opposed to rhapsodizing about it after every Norwich/Celtic game or training session and Lennon would be a focal point as manager of Norwich as opposed to being a squad member competing for a squad place with several other defenders. :p
Or it does work because neither Lennon nor Keogh has talked about it unless asked :)

Snodgrass is a super player. I wish he was ours.

[osarusan]

Let's hope Tottenham beat Norwich this afternoon to hasten his demise and we never have him interfere with another Irish footballer's career again.

The only way Hughton should be judged on his work with Norwich. He should do what's best for the club.

The impact that his decisions on selection or tactics might have on the international prospects of any of his players is none of his concern really.