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drinkfeckarse
04/08/2006, 2:54 PM
Jesus give it a rest lads....if I wanted to hear the same points over and over again I'd put on my "O' Learys excuses DVD".

BohsPartisan
04/08/2006, 3:03 PM
They're both gobshoites. Good candidates for a celebrity death match.

Billsthoughts
04/08/2006, 8:10 PM
Would you say Spurs are a bigger club than Leeds?:D :D
Doesnt Niall Quinn in his book say how much all the other players hated O Leary as well? Its not just Cascarino.

theworm2345
05/08/2006, 4:32 AM
Would you say Spurs are a bigger club than Leeds?:D :D
Doesnt Niall Quinn in his book say how much all the other players hated O Leary as well? Its not just Cascarino.

God damn, it just looks like everyone hates each other

Pedro m
05/08/2006, 11:02 PM
Regardless of your opinion of Cascarino he is a good journalist.You say O'Leary will not be out of work for long because he is a good manager - i guarantee cascarino would not be out of work long if he left his paper,which is in my opinion writing for The Times is comparable, in journalist terms, to managing a big club.
You say cascarino didnt walk out on his country - was O'Leary not born in England also ?

The ultimate failing of Leeds Utd under O'Leary/Ridsdale was that they gambled heavily on continuily competing in the CL and spent money anticipating the annual windfall the CL would bring.
O'Leary was backed to the hilt by his chairman and i guess the phrase "he could not of asked for more" could be used?
Yet O'Leary failed to deliver consistant CL to Leeds which subsequently reduced their anticipated revenue and brought on the financial ruin that followed.The difference between Jols and O'leary is that the money jols has spent is not reliant on CL/UEFA income to keep the club above water and few of his signings will reach the high inflated figures of Fowler/keane/ferdinand/viduka etc
All any manager will ask for is money O'Leary got his in abundance and failed !
You asked which is better CL qualification or winning the FA cup - i remember at the time O'leary was resting players and putting out a 2nd string in the league cup and fans and ex players of leeds were begging to just win a cup and give them a day out and then go for the bigger prizes - that's what they thought.
With Villa he achieved nothing they are no better off than before he started .
In 20 yrs time when people talk of dave O'Leary as a manager he'll be remembered for bringing down a "big club" like Leeds
I agree with you they are an average club with a patchy sometimes bright history but that's what he'll be remembered for - unless he does something else in the future
I also disagree with regards him being back in the premiership this season
In fact his managerial career is starting to become similar to Cascarino's as a players - average then move on ..............

As for Cascarino knowing nothing of the game ...... then you dont listen to his tips.You dont have to be a manager to know the game tactically
There is plenty of players that would make great managers but for whatever reason dont give it a go, be it personality,or whatever.Just because they get well paid to give their opinions to various forms of the media is not a bad thing.

NeilMcD
06/08/2006, 1:41 PM
Would you say Spurs are a bigger club than Leeds?:D :D
Doesnt Niall Quinn in his book say how much all the other players hated O Leary as well? Its not just Cascarino.



No I would not. Spurs are a club that has ideas of grandeur in my view. They have an elevated idea of how big they are. There support and success on the field does not stand up to the ideas of grandeur that their support has.

Never read Quinns book so I dont know about that. I never said that nobody else does not like Cascarino. But Cascarino seems to be the only one who regularly writes personal pieces on O Leary, I think its about time he dropped it to be honest.

NeilMcD
06/08/2006, 1:49 PM
Regardless of your opinion of Cascarino he is a good journalist.You say O'Leary will not be out of work for long because he is a good manager - i guarantee cascarino would not be out of work long if he left his paper,which is in my opinion writing for The Times is comparable, in journalist terms, to managing a big club.
You say cascarino didnt walk out on his country - was O'Leary not born in England also ?

The ultimate failing of Leeds Utd under O'Leary/Ridsdale was that they gambled heavily on continuily competing in the CL and spent money anticipating the annual windfall the CL would bring.
O'Leary was backed to the hilt by his chairman and i guess the phrase "he could not of asked for more" could be used?
Yet O'Leary failed to deliver consistant CL to Leeds which subsequently reduced their anticipated revenue and brought on the financial ruin that followed.The difference between Jols and O'leary is that the money jols has spent is not reliant on CL/UEFA income to keep the club above water and few of his signings will reach the high inflated figures of Fowler/keane/ferdinand/viduka etc
All any manager will ask for is money O'Leary got his in abundance and failed !
You asked which is better CL qualification or winning the FA cup - i remember at the time O'leary was resting players and putting out a 2nd string in the league cup and fans and ex players of leeds were begging to just win a cup and give them a day out and then go for the bigger prizes - that's what they thought.
With Villa he achieved nothing they are no better off than before he started .
In 20 yrs time when people talk of dave O'Leary as a manager he'll be remembered for bringing down a "big club" like Leeds
I agree with you they are an average club with a patchy sometimes bright history but that's what he'll be remembered for - unless he does something else in the future
I also disagree with regards him being back in the premiership this season
In fact his managerial career is starting to become similar to Cascarino's as a players - average then move on ..............

As for Cascarino knowing nothing of the game ...... then you dont listen to his tips.You dont have to be a manager to know the game tactically
There is plenty of players that would make great managers but for whatever reason dont give it a go, be it personality,or whatever.Just because they get well paid to give their opinions to various forms of the media is not a bad thing.



If this post is directed at me please find quotes where I said that he would be back at work before too long.


I think O leary is a half decent manager with many faults and some good points. I think the job he did at Leeds is not as simplistic as he blew all the money so therefore he failed. Thats my opinion but I am willing to say that its only an opinion. In addition I think that Cascarino is a rubbish journalist but again its only my opinion. Some people like this style so fair enough. However you state that Cascarino is a good journalist regardless of my opinion. Sorry but is life not made up of opinions and I did not realise that there is some canon of good journalist that Cascarino belongs too. Fair enough that if you think that Cascarino is a good journalist but do not dismiss my opinion as it is a valid as yours on this subject. There is not such thing as a fact when it comes to whether someone is a good journalist or not. Its a subjective call which is impossible to have a right or wrong answer.


Also someones country is not always where the person is born O Leary grew up in Ireland and both his parents were from here. He happened to be born in England but if you are saying that all people born in England have to be English then you are going to make yourself to many people on this board.