Quoteits rich from cascarino seeing most villa fans disliked him too
don't know if this has done the rounds yet, but great piece by Caz in the (english) times last week.
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Game's up for hollow man as chairman finally gets wise
By Tony Cascarino
DOUG ELLIS has finally seen through the hollow man. What took him so long? The supporters and some of the backroom staff at Villa Park realised the truth about David O’Leary long ago. When Villa beat Birmingham City last season, O’Leary made a “that’s for you” gesture towards his chairman.
Ellis was just about the last man standing behind his manager, but there is only so much anyone can take when faced with poor results on the pitch and a bad atmosphere off it.
It seemed as if every time O’Leary opened his mouth he undermined the club, always making excuses, blaming someone else. He couldn’t simply roll up his sleeves and get on with it. All those quotes implying that he had an impossible job; by the end, that’s what it was — but because of O’Leary, not in spite of his efforts.
People think I have an axe to grind with O’Leary, my former Ireland team-mate who I know well, and that I am bitter towards him for some reason, but that is not right. The truth is, a bit like that Villa supporters’ banner from last term, I’m not fickle, I just don’t like him. He is the least sincere person I have met.
One time, he was out of the Arsenal side. He told me that the reason George Graham was not picking him was that the manager was envious of his house. Apparently, Graham had to drive past O’Leary’s pad every day and it was slightly bigger.
No one can deny that O’Leary did well at Leeds United, especially early on, but he was lucky. How many other first-time managers are given a transfer fund big enough to compete with Manchester United? Talking to a well- respected journalist about him, I said: “I can’t understand why things work out for David.” He replied: “It works out for 18 months. Then the players will find out what he’s all about and turn against him.”
And that is about right — things went well at Villa for the first half of his reign, then went sour.
Where does O’Leary go now? His stock has plummeted. The word is out about his personality. His public comments have shown naivety and self-interest. The hollow man looks empty.
O’Leary and Ellis are similar in some ways. Blasé, name-dropping, mocked by players behind their back. I bumped into Ellis in the 1990s when I was playing for Marseilles, years after my spell at Villa. “You’ll have to come and visit me on my yacht in Monaco,” he told me. Those were his first words; no “hello, how are you?”
Ellis is a bit of a know-all, can be sarcastic and tough to get on with. He would come into the Villa dressing-room and have his say. As if we wanted to listen to him.
its rich from cascarino seeing most villa fans disliked him too
big cas was a disaster at villa but i think he would be first to admit it. i imagine in o'learys own mind everything is anyones fault but his own. in his book cas mentions a few other negative things about O'leary although cas was blinded a bit as he was very much a big jack devotee
Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
I slept, and dreamed that life was Beauty;
I woke, and found that life was Duty.
Cascarino does not like O Leary so would not take it as objective journalism if that is possible anyway. What did Roy Keane say about Cascarino, " Never trust a word that comes from that mans mouth"
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id love to see him manage a club like villa...lets see what he can do.....but he wont so he should shut his laptop and get off the "everyone hates o leary" bandwagonbig cas was a disaster at villa
i think i was the only villa fan to ever like o leary...in the last 2 years that is...1st year he was a hero....
When you consider this man met Bernard Tapie, that comment looks lower than a Dunphy blow.Originally Posted by Cascarino
neil , where is that quote from roy from? i never heard that one..
have to say i have always had a soft spot for big cas and loved his book.
o'leary on the other hand.....Grrrr
Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
I slept, and dreamed that life was Beauty;
I woke, and found that life was Duty.
It was on the Dunphy show when he was interviewed. Its probably on You "tube ifyou going looking for it. Dunphy was asking Keane about Cascarino and what he had said about the relationship between Keane and Mc Carthy and allaged "where is your first touch" remark.
Keane just said never believe word that comes from that mans mouth, seriously"..
Cascarino is very good at tips for betting I think.
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I wouldnt listen to anything Cascarino says........He is a muppet. What has he done as a manager, nothing! When did he work under o'leary......never. But he says we have seen he for what he truely is.That was a terrible piece of jouralisim. he always makes it personal. Someone should tell cascarino Jealousy will get you no where.
I remember that bit, though I have a different take on it, Keane wasn't speaking disparagingly about Cascarino, just a bit of interview banter.
Whatever Cascarino says about O'Leary fits the (media exposed) impression I have of him. Eoin Hand marked his card a long time ago.
If Roy says it, it must be true
You'll seldom encounter "objective" journalism if by that you mean a journalist who doesn't have an opinion one way or the other.
As for IrishPride calling Cascarino a muppet, what is the definition of a muppet? He is a good writer (even the snobby Daily Telegraph hired him for a couple of years and he wrote some good stuff) and he's also a good pundit. Predicted Klosse as the top scorer in the WC. Gave his all whenever he played for Ireland and scored some important goals. His cockney accent might jar a bit but I wouldn't hold that against him.
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
Cas sums up everything I've believed for many years about David O'Leary. That story about George Graham and his house just sounds so perfectly O' Leary. all that "They're only young lads" **** when your talking about players who are 18 or 29 is just a load of bolox. O' Leary is a con artist. And hopefully his next stop will be managing a League 1 team if any team at all
The pot calling the kettle black. Does Cas even know the definition of sincerity? They are both as corrupt as one another.
what's the point of getting a ex-pro to write for your newspaper if he doesn't draw on his own experiences ????? ok, he might seem self-obsessed at times but he's able to give us an angle (accurate or not) that no 'journalist' (i.e. the professional writer types) ever could. thought it was fascinating ... and ballsy
with the ex-pro fraternity ... i'm sure it was a difficult decision to write what he wrote about o'leary. if not for o'leary's reaction but for the reaction of those in between.
It really ****ed me off when two of the instrumental (coincendentally both subs) parts of the biggest thing to ever happen in Irish football have a row. I dont know why
What row are you talking about?
Whatever negative feelings anybody had against O'Leary were temporarily suspended at that penalty shootout until the post match interview.
i'm with big cas on this , he writes good pieces for the times , his book was top notch ( i know kimmage wrote it but the stories were cas) and unlike o'leary he is prepared to take the blame for his mistakes and shortcomings
Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
I slept, and dreamed that life was Beauty;
I woke, and found that life was Duty.
I wouldn't trust "Cas" any further than I could throw the 19 stone fcukwit.
Translation: I made the quote up myself and am apportioning it to an un-named "well respected journalist" to give it more credibility.Talking to a well- respected journalist about him, I said: “I can’t understand why things work out for David.” He replied: “It works out for 18 months. Then the players will find out what he’s all about and turn against him.”
Stock doesn't matter jacksh1t in football. It is unique in the business world that you can be fired from a position for frittering your employers and shareholders resources and excercising poor judgment in use of same ....yet six months later you'll have another job doing exactly the same thing for someone else.Where does O’Leary go now? His stock has plummeted.
Hold front page. "Former professional footballer shows naivety and self-interest."The word is out about his personality. His public comments have shown naivety and self-interest.
Christ Cas stick to the Snap and the one armed bandits.
" I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"
Glad to hear it, otherwise you'd think pretty poorly of several of your colleagues on foot.ie...
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If Roy says it, it must be true
You'll seldom encounter "objective" journalism if by that you mean a journalist who doesn't have an opinion one way or the other.
As for IrishPride calling Cascarino a muppet, what is the definition of a muppet? He is a good writer (even the snobby Daily Telegraph hired him for a couple of years and he wrote some good stuff) and he's also a good pundit. Predicted Klosse as the top scorer in the WC. Gave his all whenever he played for Ireland and scored some important goals. His cockney accent might jar a bit but I wouldn't hold that against him.
No it does have to be true if Roy says it but just trying to balance it up by personal comments by another ex player who played with both of them. Cascarino is not the only one that can make personal slurs against fellow professionals. Cascarino has personal digs in most of his articles and his personal dislike for O Leary has been going on long enough now and it is tiresome. Fact is that O Leary has done far more in the game than Cascarino has ever or ever will do. He had more talent in his baby toe than Cascarino and O Leary was a centre back. He won all the major honours in England as a player and also led Leeds to semi finals of Champions League. He played at the one club for a record amount of games which shows great loyalty etc. Cascarino open admits cheating on his wife and leading a double life behind his wifes back in his book. The world would be better off if there were more David O Learys rather than more Tony Cascarinos.
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