David McGoldrick F Notts County b.1987

[Charlie Darwin]

The problem with McGoldrick is he doesnt fit in for Kenny's formation, he needs freedom to play his thing,
McGoldrick is the one player who is ideal for Kenny's formation.

[Razors left peg]

McGoldrick is the one player who is ideal for Kenny's formation.
In what position?

[Bielsa´s irish]

In what position?

McGoldrick is the one player who is ideal for Kenny's formation.

Yeah, where? I see him as the attacking midfielder only for Kenny, Kenny's tactic requires a real number 9, McGoldrick is a drifter, good player, flair player, too slow for the attacking sides,

[CraftyToePoke]

McGoldrick is the one player who is ideal for Kenny's formation.

Yeah, where? I see him as the attacking midfielder only for Kenny, Kenny's tactic requires a real number 9, McGoldrick is a drifter, good player, flair player, too slow for the attacking sides,

Where in the three are you putting him amigo ?

[Bielsa´s irish]

Where in the three are you putting him amigo ?

as the attacking midfielder in Kenny's 4-3-3 the only place he could feature, he doesnt fit in Kenny's tactics

[Razors left peg]

I actually agree with Biesla for once

[CraftyToePoke]

as the attacking midfielder in Kenny's 4-3-3 the only place he could feature, he doesnt fit in Kenny's tactics

In the middle is it ? Of the three. Or if not which side ?

[Razors left peg]

In the middle is it ? Of the three. Or if not which side ?

I would think he would fit into the #10 position more so than striker. As I said higher up I dont think he has the discipline to play the lone striker role

[OwlsFan]

Is McGoldrick what happens when a player doesn't really feel Irish? Was good for his career to play international football when he was a Championship player but now that he's in Premiership it doesn't matter as much?

I'm not a fan of him in general and I don't really care that he's retired. In the short term he would probably be 1st choice but he's a journeyman footballer whos had a nice end to his career. He has talent so I would question his attitude that it took him so long to make it as a Premiership footballer.

His goal record for us isn't exactly going to be hard to replace. Connolly, Idah, Parrott or even Scully could hopefully bypass his record in a couple of years

Probably unfair. I am sure we have had some green blooded Irishmen who also retired early (scratches his head to think of any). I doubt if it's anything to do with him being an Anglo. Perhaps one last chance to earn big money in the PL which may well have eluded him throughout his career. I don't know but it's a leap to saw it's because he is one of the Anglo players I think.

[elatedscum]

Probably unfair. I am sure we have had some green blooded Irishmen who also retired early (scratches his head to think of any). I doubt if it's anything to do with him being an Anglo. Perhaps one last chance to earn big money in the PL which may well have eluded him throughout his career. I don't know but it's a leap to saw it's because he is one of the Anglo players I think.

Wasn’t stephen Carr really early?

[Fizzer]

Another Stephen also springs to mind...

[Fergie's Son]

Wasn’t stephen Carr really early?

Think his injuries had a lot to do with it.

[Razors left peg]

Probably unfair. I am sure we have had some green blooded Irishmen who also retired early (scratches his head to think of any). I doubt if it's anything to do with him being an Anglo. Perhaps one last chance to earn big money in the PL which may well have eluded him throughout his career. I don't know but it's a leap to saw it's because he is one of the Anglo players I think.

Maybe harsh, thats why I asked the question rather that give it as my opinion. Im not sure either way, and as Ive said my opinion is that I dont really care that hes retired. Others rate him a lot higher than me, and thats fair enough

[Charlie Darwin]

In what position?
Behind a number nine. With all his teams, Kenny has always played a guy in McGoldrick's mould at number 10.

[Snapshot]

McGoldrick retires at a time Ireland needs him most. We're at a 50-year low - and he's playing the best football of his career. He either doesn't have the passion or Kenny lacks the necessary persuasive skills - or both. A disastrous WC campaign is very possible. It's not time to walk away. Failure to return, in my opinion, will reflect poorly on a player whose career was enhanced by international football.

[Diggs246]

Kenny made a statement at the beginning of his reign about James McCarthy and building a team around him

I really think he needs to get on a plane, covid or not( pretend you have a dental appointment) and tell McGoldrick he is vital to our success etc

[CraftyToePoke]

He either doesn't have the passion or Kenny lacks the necessary persuasive skills - or both.

Why would SK need to be persuading him ? If he needs persuading to play in green he probably rathers being at home watching his favourite team on international windows, feet up.

[seanfhear]

Maybe he has weighed up the pros and cons of playing international football at his age / situation and thought = not worth it = maybe he is right ! !

[Diggs246]

Maybe he has weighed up the pros and cons of playing international football at his age / situation and thought = not worth it = maybe he is right ! !


Well he not right anyway, all players state they wished they could have played more after they retire

but the fact IMO is , is he is our best player and we need everything weve got to have even a chance of going to the WC

[seanfhear]

Well he not right anyway, all players state they wished they could have played more after they retire

but the fact IMO is , is he is our best player and we need everything weve got to have even a chance of going to the WC
Maybe he couldn’t handle the expectation or the pressure of being the striker for an International Team !

[Eirambler]

About to come out of international retirement if Twitter is to be believed.

[kennedmc]

About to come out of international retirement if Twitter is to be believed.

Would be great if he did - we really need him to play that Firmino type role and bring Connolly and Robinson into the game.

[Diggs246]

About to come out of international retirement if Twitter is to be believed.

Amazing do u have a link ?

[Olé Olé]

https://twitter.com/LOI_TVOfficial/status/1360207360887836676?s=19

Not sure if Eirambler is referring to this or something else. But, if this is all true, it is rather interesting...

[irishfan86]

The Sun reports McGoldrick has not made contact with the FAI about a possible return.

[seanfhear]

The Sun reports McGoldrick has not made contact with the FAI about a possible return.
Maybe he thought that everyone had moved on and decided to get on with their lives !

[tetsujin1979]

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[Razors left peg]

Kenny has just confirmed on a fan Q&A that McGoldrick will not be back in

[Diggs246]

Sad face emoji

[Trequartista20]

Ultimately, probably for the best. We need to start chucking the kids in, as Toshack and Coleman did with Wales a number of years ago to great (eventual) effect, and just hope for the best.

We've been utterly abject in at least 7 of the 8 matches we've played thus far under Kenny. We can't afford a proven, top-class coach. Even if this coming campaign proves to be (as I expect) a write off, at least a few young players will have gained international experience and there'll be some modicum of hope for the future.

[Eirambler]

Yes I'm not too bothered about that I have to say. He could only play in one more campaign anyway and it's one where we have virtually no chance of qualifying. So let's use this year to blood some new players and judge Stephen Kenny on performances rather than qualification.

[Colbert Report]

Any idea why he didn't make the matchday squad on the weekend?

[Snapshot]

Yes I'm not too bothered about that I have to say. He could only play in one more campaign anyway and it's one where we have virtually no chance of qualifying. So let's use this year to blood some new players and judge Stephen Kenny on performances rather than qualification.
No credit to McGoldrick - he knows we need him but stays retired. Good riddance.

[Colbert Report]

Another masterful performance from David McGoldrick with the only goal in a 1-0 win home to Brighton. He played the full match and was the best player on the park by a mile. He's on 30k a week and has another year left on his deal, I'd say he'd be a great pickup for a Premier League club, even at his advanced age. The guy just works his socks off in every match I watch him play.

[Snapshot]

Another masterful performance from David McGoldrick with the only goal in a 1-0 win home to Brighton. He played the full match and was the best player on the park by a mile. He's on 30k a week and has another year left on his deal, I'd say he'd be a great pickup for a Premier League club, even at his advanced age. The guy just works his socks off in every match I watch him play.

His country needed him and he (stayed) retired. Feck him, his socks and his 30k. Good riddance. Same to Duff, Higgins and former Manchester United player R. M. Keane.

[Charlie Darwin]

No need to say feck him. He's entitled to do what he needs to do to prolong his career for me.

[seanfhear]

No need to say feck him. He's entitled to do what he needs to do to prolong his career for me.
Why do any of them bother to play international football then ?

As it goes International Soccer has become a bit of a joke. Some of these fellas are just plain mercenaries and will use international football when they are younger ( Not McGoldrick in this case ) to help their careers and then do as they please later on.

[Charlie Darwin]

Well I don't know their reasons for playing international football but it's well understood that the older you get, the more recovery time you need, and having those weeks to train and recover rather than getting on flights and playing games can be vital. McGoldrick never gave anything less than 100% for Ireland so I couldn't begrudge him extending his club career by a bit.

[Fixer82]

Well I don't know their reasons for playing international football but it's well understood that the older you get, the more recovery time you need, and having those weeks to train and recover rather than getting on flights and playing games can be vital. McGoldrick never gave anything less than 100% for Ireland so I couldn't begrudge him extending his club career by a bit.

He was great for us. Appreciate having him for the short time we did. Shame his career really kicked off so late in his career. Wish him all the best

[Snapshot]

He was great for us. Appreciate having him for the short time we did. Shame his career really kicked off so late in his career. Wish him all the best
He was good, he wasn't great. He scored one goal in 14 internationals. If Ireland were a chance to qualify for the WC Finals I believe he would have played on to then retire on a high. Bravo. Instead, with the opposite the case, he said goodbye. In a nutshell, Ireland needs him but he doesn't need Ireland.

[Bielsa´s irish]

He was good, he wasn't great. He scored one goal in 14 internationals. If Ireland were a chance to qualify for the WC Finals I believe he would have played on to then retire on a high. Bravo. Instead, with the opposite the case, he said goodbye. In a nutshell, Ireland needs him but he doesn't need Ireland.

Great for Eire was good old Tony Galvin whio was at his time the best left side attacking midfielder in the English first division for almost 5/7 years in a row and he didnt retire, big Jack retired him just before the WC, he got his final injury even though he was invited to be in the camp as an assistant.

Who was the second best left side attacking midfielder at the same time? A certain Kevin Sheedy.

In the decision Galvin or Sheedy big Jack was always right, Tony Galvin was the all rounded better player of the two, but I still think that Charlton could have played them both at the same time with Ronny and McGrath, what a powerful and crafty midfield!! They all played together once I think in that 1-1 vs URSS a match that was described by many of you as the best world class performance from any irish team to this day. In that matched Galvin was motm and was mouled by Dassaev in the box, a penalty not given could have been a 2-0 win and the semifinal match.

And without doing any revinisionism I will always feel that Jack could have used a more expansive football strategy as was always asked by Liam Brady and Ronny Whelan, we could have been a wc winners in our debut. On Kevin Sheedy he scored that goal vs England he got his reward and that lovely world class penalty vs Rumania.

Tony Galvin was great for Eire, David McGoldrick was adequate and when needed the most he stopped, to prolong his premiership footie carrer, well let me tell you Mr. McGoldrick your team was demoted to division 2 the championship this season, you couldnt prolong it.

Best wishes to all

[Fixer82]

He was good, he wasn't great. He scored one goal in 14 internationals. If Ireland were a chance to qualify for the WC Finals I believe he would have played on to then retire on a high. Bravo. Instead, with the opposite the case, he said goodbye. In a nutshell, Ireland needs him but he doesn't need Ireland.

He was far and away our best player in a below average team. He rarely put a foot wrong. He is not an out and out striker but more of a no.10.
He set up the goal V Gibraltar. He scored V Switzerland. His efforts made the first goal V Gibraltar at home happen.

In a time where we were turgid, I thought he was great. And about the only player I felt could make something happen for us

[Snapshot]

He was far and away our best player in a below average team. He rarely put a foot wrong. He is not an out and out striker but more of a no.10.
He set up the goal V Gibraltar. He scored V Switzerland. His efforts made the first goal V Gibraltar at home happen.

In a time where we were turgid, I thought he was great. And about the only player I felt could make something happen for us

I cannot agree he was great - he was a good, hard-working player. But until latter games when he changed roles, he had under-achieved in his primary role - scoring. Branding that campaign turgid renders the current one indescribable.

[seanfhear]

He was alright.

[Fixer82]

Branding that campaign turgid renders the current one indescribable.

I'll stand by it.
Though I do support Kenny's attempts to change the culture of the international team. Not sure he'll achieve it.

Was McGoldrick's sole purpose to score goals?

Not sure as he's never been a very prolific goalscorer. Except for a loan spell at Coventry which was League 1.

I think his job, and what he's always done best, was to hold up the ball and bring others into the game.
Watch the 4-1 friendly win over USA for example. Before he got a proper run in the team.

[Diggs246]

He is/was our best player
Which doesn't say much for us.

[John83]

*best forward. All our best players are defenders.

[John83]

Scored again today, his 8th in the PL this year. Respectable return given the team he's in. He was voted their player of the season this week.

[Charlie Darwin]

Scored again today, his 8th in the PL this year. Respectable return given the team he's in. He was voted their player of the season this week.
40% of their total goal tally. Goes to show how little the other strikes have contributed.

[Demesne Lad]

Teeside Gazette today endorsing the report in 'The Sun' that Chris Wilder wants to bring McGoldrick - 34 and a free agent - to Middlesbrough.