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Karlos
06/05/2006, 3:05 AM
Sorry how can you sneak something when you have been there since December. If Arsenal finish 4th it will be them that is sneaking it. Howerver If they do finishe 4th they will deserve. it.

Arsenal won't be sneaking anything. If they finish forth they will have done so by getting more points (or goals) than Spurs over 38 games. Where they where in the league from game 21 - 37 or whatever will be irrelavant. :)

Karlos
06/05/2006, 3:15 AM
West Ham will be resting players for the Cup Final as Pardew has said it


Didn't see Pardew's comments on resting players but if he did say that he's changed his tune as that's certainly not what he was saying on Friday :)

“I will play my strongest side. Arsenal and Tottenham can sort themselves out but if we win, we can jump up to eighth. We’d put that down as a terrific season and that’s without the Cup final.

“People want to play in that final and have to convince me they’re worth their place. So the players will all be trying their best.”

geysir
06/05/2006, 12:10 PM
What are RTE showing? Spurs?
It appears so.

DmanDmythDledge
07/05/2006, 11:45 AM
Another twist in the tale- http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/4982144.stm

eirebhoy
07/05/2006, 12:25 PM
Another twist in the tale- http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/4982144.stm
It has been confirmed that the game will go ahead. Spurs have such strong back up that I think they'll still win. I think the players sick are:
Robinson, Dawson, Kelly, Davenport, Murphy, Lennon, Barnard.

thejollyrodger
07/05/2006, 12:43 PM
thats bad luck for the spurs...it will be a miracle if they can win after so many people not fit to play

eirebhoy
07/05/2006, 1:23 PM
Spurs playing games???

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/2868/spursteam8uh.jpg

Karlos
07/05/2006, 3:58 PM
7th May 2006 - St. Totteringham Day arrives! :D :D


As I've always said it ultimatley would :D

thejollyrodger
07/05/2006, 4:38 PM
hard luck spurs..better luck next season

pete
07/05/2006, 5:51 PM
Spurs looked fairly dozey alright. Carrick not at the races. Keane half asleep too. Davids had a better game than normal though.

Spurs would have been unseeded & got difficult 3rd qualifying round draw anyway. Season in the Uefa Cup would boost their rankings.

NeilMcD
08/05/2006, 9:41 AM
An absolute sickener for Spurs pardon the pun. Its a pity that Spurs could not play properly due to the food poisoning. Its a pity as it would have been interesting to see who would have finished 4th on a level playing field. I thought Henys comments after the game were out of order and I was suprised at him but maybe he was getting emotional about leaving the Library.

NeilMcD
08/05/2006, 9:45 AM
7th May 2006 - St. Totteringham Day arrives!


As I've always said it ultimatley would :D


Pity Arsenal had to employs chefs to help them out this time though. :D

geysir
08/05/2006, 10:59 AM
Is it correct now that Arsenal are now gaurenteed entry to the qual rounds for the CL and will be seeded there. Should they win the CL it will make no difference to this situation.
If they had finished 5th and won the CL then they would have gained entry straight into the group stages of the CL

NeilMcD
08/05/2006, 11:19 AM
No my understanding is that if they lose the champions league final they will be like Everton last season and have to qualify for the Champions League. If they win it though they will go into the Champions League proper as Champions. Some team who are in the champions league already will lose out and go into the qualifiers. This team I think is Celtic.

geysir
08/05/2006, 11:21 AM
In a bizarre quote published in the guardian http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,1770022,00.html
Arsene Wenger is quoted as saying
"What happened to Tottenham I don't know. I feel sorry for that. We knew what happened at West Ham was out of our hands. It is cruel for Tottenham but sport is like that."

What happened to Tottenham was a reported fact.
why would he say "I don't know"
and then say " I feel sorry for that".
I can only assume that when apprehended the suspect immediately denied his knowledge of the 'crime' but admitted his heartfelt grief.

Karlos
08/05/2006, 11:32 AM
Pity Arsenal had to employs chefs to help them out this time though. :D


Was wondering when this would begin. :eek: :)

Over 38 games, the best team finished in forth.

Is there any truth in the rumour that Spurs will be sponsored by Pampers next season?

geysir
08/05/2006, 11:33 AM
No my understanding is that if they lose the champions league final they will be like Everton last season and have to qualify for the Champions League. If they win it though they will go into the Champions League proper as Champions. Some team who are in the champions league already will lose out and go into the qualifiers. This team I think is Celtic.

From Bert's site http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/index.html
"if the defending cup holder (possibly Arsenal) already qualified directly for the group stage of the Champions League, the champion of the 10th country on the country ranking list (Celtic) will gain direct access to the group stage."

So Neil you are saying that Arsenal by finishing 4th do not qualify for the group stages directly therefore by winning the CL they would take Celtic's place. Come on Barca. Riikard better bring his own chefs.

Karlos
08/05/2006, 11:36 AM
In a bizarre quote published in the guardian http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,1770022,00.html
Arsene Wenger is quoted as saying
"What happened to Tottenham I don't know. I feel sorry for that. We knew what happened at West Ham was out of our hands. It is cruel for Tottenham but sport is like that."

What happened to Tottenham was a reported fact.
why would he say "I don't know"
and then say " I feel sorry for that".
I can only assume that when apprehended the suspect immediately denied his knowledge of the 'crime' but admitted his heartfelt grief.

It's not a bizarre quote if you view the full transcript or see the interview. This question was asked of Wenger directly after the game and it's abundently clear that he's not saying what you seem to be alluding to Geysir. :)

NeilMcD
08/05/2006, 11:38 AM
Who is bert by the way. That is my understanding of it but I am not so sure.


Its cruel look on Spurs though and I do appreciate your point Karlos that over 38 games Arsenal got more points to therefore they deserved to finish ahead of Spurs. But Spurs could simply not function yesterday due to the fact that all but 3 of the team that played were vomitting in the dressingroom minutes before the match. I think Spurs did well to even be level at one point. If I was an Arsenal fan I would prefer to be playing on a level playing field and not have to rely on a bout of food poisoning to help their cause.

geysir
08/05/2006, 11:41 AM
I'd unreservedly agree that Arsenal are the better team and are worthy of the 4th spot.
But weren't the All Black squad poisoned the night before their WC rugby final against South Africa?

Karlos
08/05/2006, 11:48 AM
If I was an Arsenal fan I would prefer to be playing on a level playing field and not have to rely on a bout of food poisoning to help their cause.

If I was a Spurs fan, I'd have wanted to collect a point at Highbury in a more sporting manner. Swings & Roundabouts. Karma works in mysterious often funny ways!

Spurs where 7 points ahead at one stage - what about the help Arsenal got that pulled that back. A 9 point turnaround - yesterday was only a small part.

Karlos
08/05/2006, 11:49 AM
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4982/1259/1600/New%20Image.jpg :D :D

geysir
08/05/2006, 12:09 PM
What's the situation with Henry? is it more likely that he leaves Arsenal rather than sign another contract?

NeilMcD
08/05/2006, 12:43 PM
To be honest Karlos your signature says it all you seem to more in hate of Spurs than you do love Arsenal. I would hope Arsenal win the Champions League now if they were not playing Barca. I love to see good attacking teams do well and I feel that Arsenal and Barca play the game in the right way. If it was a Milan Arsenal final I would like Arsenal to win. I dont see how as an Irish man local rivalry should even come into it. I wanted Spurs to qualify for Robbie Keanes, Andy Reids and Stephen Kellys sake They all played yesterday.

The fact of the matter is that Spurs were 2 points ahead of Arsenal yesterday. They were hit down with food poisoning which effected 10 of the squad. Basically there was no way they could win a game that they had to win under those conditions. Of course it had a huge impact on the huge race. What happened at Highbury was not against the rules and neither players was injured. The ref looked at both players and waved play on. Players are always told to play to the whistle which is what spurs did. Only Arsenal fans have come out and said that spurs were out of order. Any pundit that I have seen or heard has said that Spurs did nothing wrong so I think the karma thing is a load of nonesense. If you were going to go on about Karma i think robbing peoples grounds might come into it.

Marked Man
08/05/2006, 1:16 PM
[QUOTE=KarlosIRL]If I was a Spurs fan, I'd have wanted to collect a point at Highbury in a more sporting manner. Swings & Roundabouts. Karma works in mysterious often funny ways!

[QUOTE]

Karlos, the fact that you were on here crying like a spoilt child when Spurs beat Arsenal, and are now gloating uncontrollably suggests that you haven't quite grasped the concept of Karma.

klein4
08/05/2006, 1:17 PM
surely both teams squabbling over 4th just goes to show how irrelevant both teams are/have become. fourth place is a disgrace for a team with arsenals talent and they were dropping points easily all season. same with spurs. nothing to do with bad luck or food poisoning. arsenal will probably go on to win the champions league please god but it wont paper over the cracks anymore than it did with liverpool last season. After all the furore last season about everton they hardly took the champions league by storm and spurs would have gone the same way. if its an acheivement for your club to finish fourth domestically than it is pretty obvious you are not goin to be hammering the better sides on the continent. I dont think it matters a ****e how many irish players play for spurs as only keane would be guarnateed a place, and even that is only a recent development.

klein4
08/05/2006, 1:18 PM
Karlos, the fact that you were on here crying like a spoilt child when Spurs beat Arsenal, and are now gloating uncontrollably suggests that you haven't quite grasped the concept of Karma.

Excellent!!!:D :D

NeilMcD
08/05/2006, 2:17 PM
Klein I think you will find that Spurs are not a bigger club that Either man Utd Chelsea Liverpool or Arsenal so finishing 5th is probably a good finish for them and where they deserve to be. Not every team can win the league so you have to be realistic with your ambitions. Spurs are a club that have never finished in the top 6 of the Premiership so that is progress this season for them Its like LIverpool have made progress this season from last despite the fact taht they won the Champions League last season. Not every team can win the League and champions League.

I dont see where spurs dropped points early on or that its a disgrace that with their talent they are fighting over 5th. I would think that Chelsea Man Utd and Liverpool have more talent than spurs do.

NeilMcD
08/05/2006, 2:20 PM
I dont think it matters a ****e how many irish players play for spurs as only keane would be guarnateed a place, and even that is only a recent development.


The days of players guaranteed a place are goine. Its a squad game and Reid are part of the Spurs squad so Champions League experience would have been good for them and for Ireland. Its a pity that they wont get it next season. But I do believe they have a chance of coming 4th next season if Arsenal do not hold on to Henry. I think Man Utd Chelsea and Liverpool may be too hard to catch again.

NeilMcD
08/05/2006, 2:36 PM
Food poisoning is a fact they did get it so there is no sour grapes from spurs on this one. They have not used it as an excuse. Name one other team that would have acted differently to Spurs the morning of their biggest game in years.

NeilMcD
08/05/2006, 2:45 PM
You are a wind up. I know spurs are crap in relation to Barcelona and Chelsea and Man Utd etc. They are about the 5th or 6th biggest team in the Premier League and thats where they have finished so thats fair enough for any Spurs fan.

So tell me gonzo using facts are proper knowledge of football to back up your argument. What should Spurs have done differently on the morning of a game when 10 of their players were hit down with food poisoning and were vomitting as they came back from their warm up in the dressing room. Have you ever had food poisoning.

Also I am happy with Spurs performance this season so there is nothing to get over. its just a little unlucky on the mornign of the game to get it. But Arsenal are a better team and club than spurs so fair play to them.

NeilMcD
08/05/2006, 2:52 PM
Its no big deal and notbody is making a big deal about it. They are showing progress and fair play to them. But they should have been there or thereabouts for a long time but the club was badly run to be honest. Now they have a decent chairman and a very good manager and a good policy in place of recruiting young English talented players.

When did spurs have end of season parties in February. I am not sure where Spurs are over hyped. Also if you dont like the English game why are you commenting on a thread about 2 teams in the English League. Maybe you are just trolling which is the practice of the ignorant.

londonirish17
08/05/2006, 3:04 PM
You can't take the "food poisoning" as an excuse for failure. Surely it comes at a bad time but as far as this episod is concerned there is no proof yet.
There have been many points dropped against opponents normally within Spurs's reach (West Brom, Aston Villa, Sunderland, Newcastle)

NeilMcD
08/05/2006, 3:10 PM
Its not an excuse its a fact. The players were vommitting in the dressing room just before the game. Spurs were just a little unlucky that it happened on the last day of the season. There is proof that they were sick.There is no proof that it was malicious. But all the 10 players who were sick ate the same thing and the ones that were not sick did not eat the same as the 10 players. No excuses have been made from Spurs other than saying it was an unfortunate thing to happen on the last day of the season. i would say the same if it happened Ireland, England, Arsenal France, Barca or whoever.

londonirish17
08/05/2006, 3:20 PM
Just meant to say that there was no proof that it was malicious. Sadly enough it all happened at the worst moment for Spurs...

NeilMcD
08/05/2006, 3:29 PM
Nobody is saying that it was malicious.

NeilMcD
08/05/2006, 4:39 PM
The players struck down by illness before Sunday's clash at West Ham are improving, but feeling the effects of the game.


Martin Jol described the lads as ‘heroes’ after their efforts but it was a sad end to the season as we lost 2-1 and therefore missed out on fourth place.

Club doctor Kalpesh Parmar said this afternoon: “Given the nature of such infection, it is incredibly difficult to determine the origin. It could be passed by food contamination or human contact. In respect of the tests that have been conducted it will be at least 48 hours before we have those results. Early indications are that it is going to be extremely difficult to pinpoint accurately the origin.

“The most badly-affected players were Michael Dawson, Michael Carrick, Lee Barnard and Edgar Davids but the list goes on.

“Teemu Tainio called today to say he had diarrhoea and vomiting, the same symptoms as the other players. He was told to stay at home.

“I had a look at the players today and they are all still feeling a bit rough and very tired after the game.

“They have a lot of muscle soreness, which is to be expected.

“We’ve basically told them that they need to re-hydrate themselves, they are feeling better in terms of their symptoms with the medication we gave them to clear up the sickness and it’s a question of letting whatever they had work out of their system.

“They are feeling better symptom-wise but they are also feeling the effects of the game more than they normally would.

“I don’t know how they got through it to be honest - Michael Dawson playing 90 minutes after the state he was in and Michael Carrick, who had to come off, it was unbelievable.”

geysir
08/05/2006, 4:59 PM
Nobody is saying that it was malicious.
As long as we don't know, it can't be entirely ruled out :)
i'd keep an open mind.

NeilMcD
08/05/2006, 5:27 PM
I did not say I was ruling it out either.

mypost
08/05/2006, 7:51 PM
Its not an excuse its a fact. The players were vommitting in the dressing room just before the game. Spurs were just a little unlucky that it happened on the last day of the season. There is proof that they were sick.There is no proof that it was malicious.

As a neutral, given the challenges both clubs faced on the last day of the season, it appears that Arsenal claimed 4th spot in highly suspicious circumstances, which takes the gloss off their "achievement". Can you imagine the uproar there would be, if a food poisoning issue on the last day had settled a relegation issue, instead of the difference between CL, and Thursday night football in front of 6 men and a dog???

Karlos
08/05/2006, 9:58 PM
Karlos, the fact that you were on here crying like a spoilt child when Spurs beat Arsenal, and are now gloating uncontrollably suggests that you haven't quite grasped the concept of Karma.


Hate to be pedantic but Spurs didn't beat Arsenal, let's put that one to bed early.

I think if you check back I was debating my belief that the goal was scored by a direct opponent in an unsporting manner. If by crying you mean, arguing my point and backing it up with quotes & evidence then spot on mate. At least my percieved whining was due to a direct conforntation with the opponent unlike the pathetic attempt to somehow blame Arsenal Football Club for Spurs getting ill.

As for the alleged 'gloating uncontrollably' - way wide of the mark, friendly banter in my eyes but it obviously touched a raw nerve! :)

However if it's gloating you want to see, just have a look back over this thread, there's plently on view although some of those lads unsurprisingly enough aren't here today but will be back out in full force if Barca win the Champions League. I expect the 'Henry doesn't do it in big games' crew to be on show too! :rolleyes:

As for karma, I'm fully aware of my own personal karma, have no fear of that. 'Not just singing when I'm winning' is also a mantra I hold dear - you can read the last 16 pages or so for proof of that. I've maintained Arsenal are a better team than Spurs and would prove it in the league. They have done that, and I'm as content as I can be after having our worst league season in 10 years :)

DmanDmythDledge
08/05/2006, 10:09 PM
I've maintained Arsenal are a better team than Spurs and would prove it in the league. They have done that
I'd have to disagree with you there Karlos. I think that Spurs have been better than Arsenal this season. The old cliche that the table never lies is wrong here me thinks. Spurs have been more consistent than Arsenal this season- Arsenal had to rely on a late run of form to move close to Spurs, although I have to give them credit for hitting form at the right time.

I think it would have been foolish to expect Arsenal to finish in the top 4 this season, even though they did. It was clear that their side this season wasn't as strong as other years and missed Vieira, as any team would have. I think it was a fair assumption to make that with many of Arsenal's squad inexperienced 4th place could have been a bridge too far for them. But fair play to them for proving me wrong and for making the necessary transition earlier than many people expected.

Karlos
08/05/2006, 10:17 PM
To be honest Karlos your signature says it all you seem to more in hate of Spurs than you do love Arsenal. a) my signature is a joke and has been on line for about 2 weeks now and b) you obviously haven't a clue about my love for Arsenal.





. I dont see how as an Irish man local rivalry should even come into it. I wanted Spurs to qualify for Robbie Keanes, Andy Reids and Stephen Kellys sake They all played yesterday.

Ah the old Irish chestnut....Surprised you bring this up Neil after all the support you were giving to the right people have to support who they want. Now your telling me for you it's all about because there are Irish players at Spurs. Interesting, very interesting. :rolleyes:

I don't need to justify anything about this to you but Im disappointed you threw this out as you have known for a long time now that I have deep family roots in Islington, North London. I'm not sure what type of dig you are trying to land with this.



The fact of the matter is that Spurs were 2 points ahead of Arsenal yesterday.

Spurs were one point ahead Neil.



Basically there was no way they could win a game that they had to win under those conditions. This I honestly don't agree with.




What happened at Highbury was not against the rules Likewise with what happened at West Ham yesterday. Sportingly West Ham offered to delay the game. Good to see such gracious action from their opponents in my opinion but they were right to refuse to move to a Monday game which would have only benefited Spurs and not them.




If you were going to go on about Karma i think robbing peoples grounds might come into it.

you seem to hate Arsenal more than you love spurs, Neil :D :)

Karlos
08/05/2006, 10:31 PM
I'd have to disagree with you there Karlos. I think that Spurs have been better than Arsenal this season. The old cliche that the table never lies is wrong here me thinks. Spurs have been more consistent than Arsenal this season- Arsenal had to rely on a late run of form to move close to Spurs, although I have to give them credit for hitting form at the right time. .

I do take you point on this. Arsenal have had a poor season by their own standards. Their worst in ten years just happened to coincide with Spurs best season in 10. I'm obviously biased but I always felt that while Arsenal may have been struggling they more than had the capabilities to put a run together. I said on this thread back in March-ish (I think) that Spurs needed to be 10 points ahead coming out of a run of easier games they had, to seal forth. I think they came out 7 clear and I always felt that the Arsenal squad with players returning from injury and into good weather form would catch them.

The table really doesn't lie - more wins, less draws means more points. Consitancy over the season maybe not but I do believe the better team finished in front.

As they say it's a marathon not a snickers....eh, sprint! :D

Marked Man
09/05/2006, 1:18 AM
If by crying you mean, arguing my point and backing it up with quotes & evidence then spot on mate.
As for the alleged 'gloating uncontrollably' - way wide of the mark, friendly banter in my eyes but it obviously touched a raw nerve! :)

:)

You mean like this?:

Classy Martin didn't see the incident and neither did his players it seem. Is he fu*king serious!

Not enough class to admit he's a cheat!

You don't earn the right to cheat by your performance earlier where you didn't get any luck

Spurs are claiming they didn't see the incident which the tape clearly proves otherwise. Carrick & Davids have told Henry (according to him) that they weren't aware of the incident and if they had they would have put the ball out. So Spurs themselves are secretly admitting they should have put the ball out without really admitting to it. It's a cop out.


Fat chance of any type of honesty down the seven sisters road.


Really dispassionate logical argumentation there alright.

By the way, As a Bohs fan, and thus a neutral in the whole spurs/aresnal thing (as is clear from the fact that I didn't even remember the score of the match between them), I'm not sure why you think you touched a nerve with me. I'm just pointing out the unseemly difference between your gloating now and your crying then.

Karlos
09/05/2006, 2:13 AM
Really dispassionate logical argumentation there alright.

By the way, As a Bohs fan, and thus a neutral in the whole spurs/aresnal thing (as is clear from the fact that I didn't even remember the score of the match between them), I'm not sure why you think you touched a nerve with me. I'm just pointing out the unseemly difference between your gloating now and your crying then.

A stray cat could pick out 4 lines of text from my 20 something posts on this & convieniently leave out every single quote I used. Profoundly logical, eh? :rolleyes:

After going to all the effort of actually finding my posts, it's a pity you ignored 99.9% of the actual content. :)

If your selective use of quotes to highlight my lack of 'logical argumentation' is the benchmark for 'logical' debating, then there's something really really wrong. :rolleyes:

Stuttgart88
09/05/2006, 8:08 AM
Very funny reading all of this having been away.

For a start, food poisoning or no food poisoning, I'm sorry to say Stephen Kelly was badly at fault for WHAM first goal.

Also, no one can deny that Spurs have made great strides this season, and I've been especially glad to see Robbie do so well (did anyone see how they analysed him on MOTD?).

But in the cold light of day if you can't finish above a team that loses 11 games a season you don't deserve to be 4th or in the CL. I personally think that 4th place shouldn't get ANYONE a place in the CL but that's another story. I also think that Sunday's result was one of the few times this year that "marginal" games haven't gone Spurs' way. Sure, it's the sign of a good team to win narrowly when not playing well but overall I don't think Spurs can complain too much, it's just the manner that must be frustrating.

That said, the Arsenal / Spurs scrap for 4th was just about the only remaining issue on the last day and given the local rivalry I found it enthralling. Tough luck on Spurs, but as Thierry Henry said, nobody had any sympathy for Arsenal when they had 9 players out injured.

People have been saying that Spurs aren't that big a club. I think many people forget that Arsenal actually aren't either - they've just been a very successful club. The "send off" given to Highbury illustrated exactly what Arsenal is: a thriving local club that belongs for the most part to local people. Some of its employees let the club down sometimes I think but in all respects Arsenal is a thoroughly classy institution. Chelsea take note, with their Spackman & Speedie Gates and all that.

NeilMcD
09/05/2006, 9:23 AM
I cant believe people can analyse the Spurs West Ham game as a contest. The minute Spurs were diagnosed with food poisoning I put €100 on West Ham to win. Spurs were never going to win that game. You cannot possibly expect a team to win a match against another Premiership side when you have players vomitting in the dressing room just as they are about to go out and play. This is not an excuse its a fact of life. Spurs did not deserve to finish 4th cause they didnt but nobody could deny me that they were unlucky on the last day of the season to be hit down with food poisoning.

Nobody on here is suggesting that it was malicious so Karlos I am not sure who is making the pathetic attempt to suggest that Arsenal where involved in the incident.


Karlos you are doing to me what you have slagged others doing to you which is selective quoting. I have no problem you or anybody irish supporting Arsenal but I dont buy into an Irish person getting involved in the local rivalry. Its like Irish Liverpool fans calling Irish Man Utd Fans, Mancs or vice versa calling them Scousers. Arsenal are a great club and Spurs were a great club who look like they are getting things back on track.

In my view there is not much between the 2 sides but Arsenal have one of the best players in the world and he is worth at least 12 points a season extra to them in my view. It will be interesting to see what happens during the summer with Henry. I think Arsenal are better equippped than Spurs in the Champions League at the moment but it would have been a great learning experience for the Spurs players. Most of all I am gutted for Robbie Keane who deserved to be playing Champions League football. As a fan of the Irish national team and an observer and someone with a soft spot for Spurs I wanted Keane and Reid and Kelly to be playing Champions League football. If Arsenal had 3 Irish men and Spurs had none I would have liked Arsenal to make it through. I am not so sure other people could say the same.

NeilMcD
09/05/2006, 9:27 AM
Nothing to do with 'trolling':rolleyes: .....raw nerves maybe? It's all just banter. Btw, I forgot, Sp*rs had their end of season party in January this time round. ;)
Just don't generally rate Tottenham & never will.....just ano.aspiring middle-ranking club who happen for once to have finished above mid-table.

& in case you were interested, I do agree with most of the Arse.fans who are putting forward a more credible argument. Though I do hope, as the Best side in Europe this season, Barcá. win the CL.:p


Sorry what are you going on about end of season party in January. Please reference what you mean here.

I love the quote I dont rate Tottenham and never will. What happens if they win the Treble will you still not rate them. That sort of ignorant comments says it all and gives an insight into why you posted the previous ignorant comments.

As for banter I dont believe the forums are the place for banter in my view. Its a place for intelligent debate on footballing issues. I have banter with my mates and brothers and work colleagues. I dont come in here to have banter with strangers.

NeilMcD
09/05/2006, 10:40 AM
As Far as I know Ireland were not in the FAC this season so I am not sure what you are saying about you were knocked. I do know that Spurs were knocked out of the FA Cup by Leicester this season though. There may be little chance of Spurs evere winning the treble but to say you never will is sloppy as nobody can predict the future. What happens if an a Russian Billionaire comes along and bankrolls the club. It was very close to happening with Spurs so no reason why it could not happen again.


As I said earlier I could not give a **** if Spurs won a trophy or not I wanted Robbie Keane to be playing Champions League football as I think most Ireland supporters should have been. Arsenal have no Irish players in their 1st team squad so it was not within my interest for them to qualify for the Champions League.

Also I have checked many media sources and could not find anything in quotes that suggest that Spurs are whinging or that they want the game to be replayed.