Staunton Ireland Manager?

[colster]

I think Staunton replacing Kerr and Hughton is a disgrace. I would rather see Chris Hughton get the job on his own than Staunton as he has far more experience than Steve Staunton. But I will reserve judgement until we actually see what happens. But at the moment nobody can tell me that appointing Staunton would be better than Kerr and Hughton going into their 3rd campaign.

Well apart from the fact that the team dis-improved under Kerr and Hughton.
The thing is we don't know how good/bad Staunton will be?
When McCarthy took over we expected a long ball merchant which he wasn't.
When Kerr took over we expect an influx of young blood which didn't happen.
Who knows who the FAI have consulted over this?

Anyway it looks like Staunton is coming in as junior partner/assistant to a more experienced manager. It looks like Bobby Robson is the man but I would not be surprised if Dalglish,Venables or Atkinson were appointed. Out of those 4 I'd take Robson any day.

[FarBeag]

Maybe but who else can we get. The FAI are hardly flush with cash are they?
It was obvious we needed a change of management and that's what they're doing.
I'd love to see Hiddink or O'Neill but we can't get them.
Instead it looks like we have a partnership where one manager has lots of experience and another doesn't.
The only obvious thing that was going to happen after Kerr left was that the FAI would make a decision that people would criticise.


But why should we have to settle for the cheapest option the FAI can get, only to find out in a few years time that they are not up to the job, put us supporters through utter misery again and then sack the manager.Bobby Robson IMO is well past it and i would rather have Kerr back than those two no hopers.

[twoenz]

I don't see the problem in having Robson involved at all.
The man's a coach. There's only so much he can forget about that. He doesn't have to deal in transfers and isn't going to be involved day on day with the players. He has the experience, and the media perception of him is wide of the mark.

He's the only credible end of this appointment IMO.

[Cosmo]

If I have to listen to his Louth accent in interviews, I'll crack up!


Craptown accent ;)

[Macy]

Brilliant!

if anybody can turn this around it has to be the Wallsall assistant coach and some 88 year old!

Well done John Delaney!
Not really much to add to that.

[livehead1]

Not really much to add to that.
why would you want to add anything to that, its a stupid comment and also an inaccurate one. robson isn't 88 and if he does choose to manage ireland he will be the most successful and highest profile manager this country has ever had, i would consider it a priveledge to have him in charge.

[Hither green]

The thing is we don't know how good/bad Staunton will be?


You could say that about anyone. Things didn't go great under Kerr but I can't believe that an untried Stan is preferable. I'd hoped that when the FAI sacked Kerr that they had someone else in mind, perhaps even tapped up someone else, but no they're making it up as they go along as usual. And why now? I know the Euro draw is coming up but I'd have hoped that they'd either have appointed someone immediately or wait a bit longer for the best candidate (I can't see Hiddink continuing with the Australians beyond the world cup).

That said, of all the current unemployed managers mentioned, I wouldn't mind seeing Robson involved. He's done it at club level recently and he was a reasonably successful international manager. A decent enough coach for Stan to learn from.

[Cosmo]

its a stupid comment

In fairness, I would also agree with wws's comment - robson is too old (even though not quite 88 :D ) to hold down the ireland job for the next 4 years imo. Dont get me wrong would have been great to have him a few years ago but we have to look at someone that can do it for us for a few years as it'll probably take a couple of campaigns before we successfully qualify for a tournament again!)

Staunton has f**k all managerial experience so he's hardly an ideal candidate either - plus he's a muppet from craptown.

Despite Kerrs faults (and even though I like Kerr, he wasnt faultless, just like any other manager in the world) he was surely a better option than the above two - and especially a better option than staunton :(

[NeilMcD]

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FAI now setting sights on Staunton
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THE FAI has all but exhausted its patience in its bid to deliver top target Martin O'Neill as Brian Kerr's successor in the Republic of Ireland's manager's job and are set to switch their attention to former international skipper Steve Staunton.

FAI chief executive John Delaney has single-mindedly pursued O'Neill as his number one target ever since Kerr failed to deliver a World Cup place in Germany and has used former Irish star Mickey Walsh to keep in touch with O'Neill through Niall Sloane, a close friend of the ex-Celtic manager.

Following a meeting just before the new year, it was decided that if there was no movement on the O'Neill situation within a short period of time, then they would look at either appointing Staunton with an older sidekick, Bobby Robson, to the post or offer it to the former Liverpool and Aston Villa star in some sort of interim capacity.

Delaney, FAI president David Blood and Michael Cody, who make up the threeman committee given the mandate to find the new manager, ideally would like to have their man in place before the friendly game against Sweden on 1 March in Dublin.

This will give the manager a chance to familiarise himself with the players before the Euro 2008 qualifiers in the autumn and also dispel the feeling that they were unable to land the candidate they wanted.

Staunton who holds a record 102 caps for the Republic has been the subject of a huge number of bets over the past week and had hardened from 4/6 and 4/7 earlier in the week to 1/2 at Paddy Power's yesterday afternoon.

Former England Manager Terry Venables is quoted as second favourite at 5/2 but is not considered a serious candidate.

[colster]

You could say that about anyone. Things didn't go great under Kerr but I can't believe that an untried Stan is preferable. I'd hoped that when the FAI sacked Kerr that they had someone else in mind, perhaps even tapped up someone else, but no they're making it up as they go along as usual. And why now? I know the Euro draw is coming up but I'd have hoped that they'd either have appointed someone immediately or wait a bit longer for the best candidate (I can't see Hiddink continuing with the Australians beyond the world cup).

I agree Hiddink will leave Australia after the WC. He still works for PSV. Do we want him full time? If so, i think the compensation to PSV may be a big stumbling block. The other factor with Hiddink is that we may not be the only team looking at him.


That said, of all the current unemployed managers mentioned, I wouldn't mind seeing Robson involved. He's done it at club level recently and he was a reasonably successful international manager. A decent enough coach for Stan to learn from.

I agree.

[Stuttgart88]

Despite Kerrs faults (and even though I like Kerr, he wasnt faultless, just like any other manager in the world) he was surely a better option than the above two - and especially a better option than staunton :(
Hmm, dunno. At the end I think Kerr showed no inkling he had any idea how to take this team forward.

It's a big gamble though. Whatever happened the executive search firm to scour the globe for a replacement?

I've always liked Sir Bobby (especially in June '88!) , though not always respected his judgment. I wonder what Shay's view is, having worked for him for so long.

I suppose we just have to hope this works out. Robson at least is used to working with overpaid young stars week-in week-out and although lack of control ultimately cost him his job, we don't have charmless low-life like Bowyer or Dyer in the Irish set up. He is known & respected by many of the world's best (e.g., Ronaldo). Robson is well disposed to trusting young players which I've maintained all along will be the key to getting us back on track. Souness' recent performance at Newcastle highlights how well Robson was doing (finished 5th in their last full season under him & a UEFA Cup Q/F). With 102 caps you'd like to think Staunton will have half an idea of what he's talking about, probably more than Kerr at that level.

Anyway, that's the "glass half full" approach. God knows you could come up with a lot of easy negatives too though.

I wonder if Robson will be given a broader developmental role in the FAI too.

[NeilMcD]

I agree with you about Bobby Robson, but at the moment, we nly have the Staunton thing to go on really. Thats why i am reserving judgement, but if we sacked Kerr and Hughton to get Staunton then I think that will be a wast of time. If we get Bobby Robson along with Staunton then I think thats some progress.

[Stuttgart88]

FAI chief executive John Delaney ... has used former Irish star Mickey Walsh to keep in touch with O'Neill through Niall Sloane, a close friend of the ex-Celtic manager.
Interesting. My mate in work here is best friends with Walsh & I've been offered an introduction a few times. I must take him up on it next time.


That article also says that Stan may just be an interim candidate. So at least it's not Don Givens as caretaker!

[Cosmo]

So at least it's not Don Givens as caretaker!


On that we will agree on!!!

[FarBeag]

Great ! A ' Yes' man with no managerial experience in Staunton and a man who was a good coach and well respected but who is now on the verge of losing his marbles Robson to be the next Irish management team.

[lofty9]

I hope this is all speculation. This has to be the biggest wind up ever. Robson and Staunton???? We might as well have robson and jerome. FAI IDIOTS.

[silentbob]

http://www.foot.ie/showthread.php?p=373047#post373047


Said it from day one!!!

[drummerboy]

I like Staunton but feel he is under qualified for this job. It would be very foolish for him to take it. He needs to cut his teeth in club management before attempting to take on the international managers job. Delaney is a ****ing moron. We'll be the laughing stock of international football with this appointment.

[soccerc]

It looks certain that Stan will be assistant.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/2006/0109/ireland.html

PJ Cunningham was first to mention this possibility in yesterday's Sunday Tribune.


First to mention what? That Stan would be Number 2 to the "new" boss ?

If it was then he was not the first. As far back as 8th November I suggested it and again on 22nd November.

[NeilMcD]

Thats RTE saying that.

[Hither green]

we don't have charmless low-life like Bowyer or Dyer in the Irish set up.

No, fortunately he retired at the end of the last campaign :D

[onenilgameover]

If it is a bob/stan combination its a p!ss poor choice. I think Delaney is he trying to convince us he knows very little about football. That combination is so weak and so obviously gonna fall apart under any pressure.

[NeilMcD]

We'll be the laughing stock of international football with this appointment.[/QUOTE]


I dont thin its that rare for a Former player with no experience to take over the national team of a country. Esp the most capped player of all time. I dont agree with it but we would not be the laughing stock as it has happend throughout Europe.

Mark Hughes
Marco Van Basten
Jurgen Klinsman
Stoichkov


Lets also remember that Mick Mc Carthy had very little experience too as a managher. However I dont agree with this appointment of Staunton on his own but I will await what actually happens rather than comment on speculation.

[NeilMcD]

No, fortunately he retired at the end of the last campaign :D


Thats a bit harsh on Kenny Cunningham

So are you talking about Stephen Carr or Roy Keane

[lofty9]

I dont thin its that rare for a Former player with no experience to take over the national team of a country. Esp the most capped player of all time. I dont agree with it but we would not be the laughing stock as it has happend throughout Europe.

Mark Hughes
Marco Van Basten
Jurgen Klinsman
Stoichkov



All of the above were all legends for their various countries and held with great prestige by the fans and press. Staunton? A very average footballer who blagged a load of caps.

[NeilMcD]

What a load of rubbish you dont blag over a hundred caps. Staunton is our most capped player. He played in 3 world Cups in 3 different positions. I would put him up there as an Irish legend.

[geysir]

Staunton has f**k all managerial experience so he's hardly an ideal candidate either - plus he's a muppet from craptown.
Born and bred in Drogheda:)

On Robson's coaching experience statistics alone there is no debate, he makes all the rest look like kids in a playground. He is the most successful manager in the frame for the job since Bob Paisley. As a motivator I value him.
His age? he showed no (serious) signs of dementia with Newcastle. His record there leaves Souness in the dust. His coaching skills are with setting up attacking formations.
As he is a tracksuit coach for the training pitch you would wonder how much coherent football life there is left in him. Surely he is good for at least one campaign. And in combination with one of our finest footballers who has serious ambitions to learn the trade, I think if this is the FAI's thinking in the absence of O'Neill then it's smart enough.

[Hither green]

Thats a bit harsh on Kenny Cunningham

So are you talking about Stephen Carr or Roy Keane


Was thinking more of the Clyde Cannon-fodder but now that you mention Carr...

[lofty9]

What a load of rubbish you dont blag over a hundred caps. Staunton is our most capped player. He played in 3 world Cups in 3 different positions. I would put him up there as an Irish legend.


If you can put Steve Staunton up there as an Irish legend, you obviously have a serious low opinion of some of our 'forefathers'.

Ps Peter Shilton - most capped English player - legend for the English? Don't think so.

[Schumi]

serious ambitions to learn the trade
He shouldn't be learning it with us.

[Stuttgart88]

We'll be the laughing stock of international football with this appointment.
Nope, international football won't even notice.

[klein4]

If you can put Steve Staunton up there as an Irish legend, you obviously have a serious low opinion of some of our 'forefathers'.

agreed. people have very short memories when it comes to staunton. he had the potential to be one of our top players but went seriously wayward for a few years.I thought he was one of our best players at WC2002 tho.Altho that only went to show what we had been missing out on for years. Dont think Robson was as highly regarded in some of the places he was at then it is made out. altho he is obviously no fool in football terms. think this appointment would be a total stab in the dark. it might work out and it might not. doesnt seem to smack of any real planning behind it. my guess is we will be going thru the same oul ****e in two years time....

[NeilMcD]

If you can put Steve Staunton up there as an Irish legend, you obviously have a serious low opinion of some of our 'forefathers'.

Ps Peter Shilton - most capped English player - legend for the English? Don't think so.


I would think that peter Shilton is an English Legend also. I am not saying that Staunton is our greatest player ever but than again Northern Irelands greatest player ever was George Best and we would not have been a great manager for Northern Ireland. If you were picking one of Irelands greatest servants you would have to put Staunton up there.

The very fact that he played under Daglish, Charlton, Mc Carthy Atkinson Souness and played over a hundred times means that he knows good managers bad managers, what it means to be an ireland international. The set up within the FAI, what it takes to go to 3 world cups.

[klein4]

Nope, international football won't even notice.glass already half empty????????

[Stuttgart88]

glass already half empty????????
No, just commenting on our current status in the game. This won't make the news anywhere in the world except for a 10 minute slot on Sky Sports News which'd spend 10 minutes reporting anything anyway.

[brine3]

When Kerr was sacked it was the leading story in the sport section of Dutch teletext.

[Fergie's Son]

Not that impressed if Staunton gets it.

[geysir]

http://www.foot.ie/showthread.php?p=373047#post373047

Said it from day one!!!
Well done, your hunch looks like being spot on. Why not read it again:)

27/10/2005, 4:39 PM
silentbob
I know it isnt anything to go by but I just have a hunch that Stan would be the right man for the job, said it since the day Kerr was sacked as my post history will prove!! In as close to 10/1 now on PP aswell, which must show people are putting a few bob on him, think he was around 40/1 initially.

[Cosmo]

Born and bred in Drogheda:)


He was born in drogheda, just like half of dundalk and grew up in dundalk. No, he's a proud craptonian

[ThatGuy]

This stinks of minnowism.

Steve Staunton? What's the point in sacking Kerr if you are going to appoint Steve Staunton? Madness. Not letting him pick his backroom staff is another ridiculous decision. Bobby Robson as mentor? Have the FAI not learned from forcing Chris Hughton on Kerr? They should appoint a football man to MANAGE the affairs of the senior team, whether that be Staunton or anyone else, and let them MANAGE. let them appoint their own staff. Farcical. :mad:

[2Olegend]

Yes Delaney and his mafiosi have done it again. A unique mix of drepitude and ineptitude. :mad:

[geysir]

He was born in drogheda, just like half of dundalk and grew up in dundalk. No, he's a proud craptonian
Is that because Dundalk's ladies commute to Drogheda to give birth in the hospital?
Even when he captained Ireland at the WC was he not reclaimed as a proud son of Drogheda?

[thejollyrodger]

I thought another irish man getting the job might not be the tonic we need. Stan seems subdued most of the time. I think the FAIlure are trying to pick the next Pearse (although Man City's form is hardly inspiring of late :D). At the end of the day it will really depend on who he is with, if he has the likes of Blobby Robson he should be ok.

I think its more to do with the players we have. The next manager should be given the European Qualifiers and the world cup , if he doesnt make either then sack him

[Cosmo]

Is that because Dundalk's ladies commute to Drogheda to give birth in the hospital?

Some of them do (well some of them did in the past, not sure what the buzz is now, thank f**k I never got a craptonian doll up the spout to have to worry about it :D

'Even when he captained Ireland at the WC was he not reclaimed as a proud son of Drogheda?'

If he was, its incorrent, hes a proud craptonian. Ask him where hes from and he'll say craptown. Gary Kelly, Iam Harte, Nicy Colgan and Sean Thornton are all from drogheda - staunton is from dundalk (but born in drogheda)

[M@ttitude]

Stan the man, hope he proves us wrong..

[blueviking1980]

I think its more to do with the players we have. The next manager should be given the European Qualifiers and the world cup , if he doesnt make either then sack him

Next person that get's the boot if all fails, (wont be golden or an award either) should be Delaney. He's the root of the problem, I dont need to say. How would he get shafted anyhow & who is in charge if things go the way they go?

[BobbySands]

I'm glad the FAI waited to get the right man. Who'd have thought we'd up up with the assistant at Walsall.

[gustavo]

When Delaney got rid of Brian Kerr i wasnt happy.But then i said well if he gets in someone better than Kerr then fair enough . but if its Staunton thats just an insult to Kerr really.

[klein4]

its an insult to all the ireland fans.
why shell out good money to watch some third rate version of management academy????
what is the thinking behind appointing someone like staunton??
Delaney should go. he is a complete chancer. four more years of crap ahead....

[Dillo]

I'd have as much faith in Pat Dolan as I would in Staunton. Nice fella and a great servant to Irish football but the lad has no experience in management and I couldn't see him cut out for such a high pressured job. This would be a major insult to Kerr (not that i'm worried) and another crucial mistake to add to that of the FAI's long list!