LOI In Europe 2025 [Archive] - Page 5

EalingGreen

24/06/2025, 3:37 PM

See RTE are showin shels linfield home game. But its up to Linfield who they want to televise the 2nd leg in Windsor Park? I imagine Premier Sports will be in or BBC either?

BBC Sport NI is to broadcast live coverage of both legs of the Champions League first qualifying round tie between Irish Premiership champions Linfield and Irish Premier Division winners Shelbourne.

Both matches will also be available to view on the BBC Sport website and app.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c2ezgxn998ro

Hope everyone has renewed their TV Licence! :)

EatYerGreens

24/06/2025, 4:41 PM

BBC Sport NI is to broadcast live coverage of both legs of the Champions League first qualifying round tie between Irish Premiership champions Linfield and Irish Premier Division winners Shelbourne.

Both matches will also be available to view on the BBC Sport website and app.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c2ezgxn998ro

Hope everyone has renewed their TV Licence! :)

I wonder if it'll get geo-blocked outside of the north :D

pateen

24/06/2025, 9:36 PM

Cup runners-up haven't been allowed into Europe for a good few years at this stage. Only Cup winners; everything else through the league.

Id say Derry are kicking themselves

brendy_�ire

25/06/2025, 8:50 AM

Id say Derry are kicking themselves

I'm annoyed, yes, but I think most of us are resigned to how the club is run.

dundalkfc10

25/06/2025, 9:17 AM

I wonder if it'll get geo-blocked outside of the north :D

They don't block any of the Irish League games they show on the iPlayer, so hopefully it will be the same

I was of going to Windsor Park for the second leg but I doubt they are going to have a neutral section (Larne didn't v Rovers)

Nesta99

25/06/2025, 11:35 AM

I'm annoyed, yes, but I think most of us are resigned to how the club is run.

Id be interested in what you mean! Managerial apointments have, on paper, been ambitious, seemed sensible. Budget in place to compete for the league even if its heavily subsidised. Sgnificant ground development even if it took time but thats often the way with public funding. Good attendence averages with sell outs. So there have been some security things reported but outside the ground? Can you blame the onfield mediocrity on how the club is run? The owner is hardly a business mug that would let things be run sloppily unless there is too much money to care about waste that is relative change to him. As Derry will win the league this year will that then suddenly change the thining on how the club is run? Or is there stuff going on that is bugging the fanbase on wider issues than the football, even ticket price increases can be justified sort of. Derry are hardly alone on the Europe miss.

If there is criticism of the FAI in this its that they didnt give clubs a nudge that there might be an opportunity here.

Martinho II

25/06/2025, 2:02 PM

They don't block any of the Irish League games they show on the iPlayer, so hopefully it will be the same

I was of going to Windsor Park for the second leg but I doubt they are going to have a neutral section (Larne didn't v Rovers)

How do you get the Iplayer on the apps as I wouldnt mind watching it DundalkFC10?

brendy_�ire

25/06/2025, 2:31 PM

Id be interested in what you mean! .....

....If there is criticism of the FAI in this its that they didnt give clubs a nudge that there might be an opportunity here.

Off the pitch, I mean. I think we have two full time office staff. They're run off their feet.
The media duties being undertaken by someone with a full-time job, who might run out of the office at lunch to cover a press conference, would be another example.
We also have board members doing vast hours of work to get things like the new stand sorted, funding applications and the like.

I'm not at all knocking the people there, just I know how busy they are. I'd rather we signed a player or two fewer and bumped up the numbers of office staff. Maybe something like missing out on Europe this year could have been picked up earlier. Who knows.
POD did say about getting extra people in, so he recognises the need, and hopefully we'll see improvements soon.

Fair point made about the FAI. They knew, and should have flagged it up to the clubs.

dundalkfc10

25/06/2025, 2:34 PM

How do you get the Iplayer on the apps as I wouldnt mind watching it DundalkFC10?

Just download it from your playstore or appstore. Set up an account and away you go

Most shows are blocked (my partner has tried watch EastEnders etc on it and it's blocked) but any of the Irish League football or GAA they show is always available

EatYerGreens

25/06/2025, 4:37 PM

They don't block any of the Irish League games they show on the iPlayer, so hopefully it will be the same

I was of going to Windsor Park for the second leg but I doubt they are going to have a neutral section (Larne didn't v Rovers)

I'd be very surprised if there wasn't segregation for this game. Windsor is well set up for segregation, it's Linfield v a Dublin club, and it's near the 12th.

Nesta99

25/06/2025, 11:55 PM

Off the pitch, I mean. I think we have two full time office staff. They're run off their feet.
The media duties being undertaken by someone with a full-time job, who might run out of the office at lunch to cover a press conference, would be another example.
We also have board members doing vast hours of work to get things like the new stand sorted, funding applications and the like.

I'm not at all knocking the people there, just I know how busy they are. I'd rather we signed a player or two fewer and bumped up the numbers of office staff. Maybe something like missing out on Europe this year could have been picked up earlier. Who knows.
POD did say about getting extra people in, so he recognises the need, and hopefully we'll see improvements soon.

Fair point made about the FAI. They knew, and should have flagged it up to the clubs.

Yup can see the frustrations with this. Its like putting the cart before the horse by not having more admin type staff if money is not a really big problem. I think Dundalk had 5 or 6 off field staff, of varying ability, before the whole penniless owner situation arose, plus a whole bunch of dedicated volunteers who were also flat out, so 2 staff at a club looking to win the league is shortsighted by O'Doherty how many years in to a push to win the league.

Martinho II

26/06/2025, 1:20 PM

Just download it from your playstore or appstore. Set up an account and away you go

Most shows are blocked (my partner has tried watch EastEnders etc on it and it's blocked) but any of the Irish League football or GAA they show is always available

Tried doing that on my mobile in playstore by typin in BBC I player message says this app isnt possible on google play in your region. Think I would have to go near the border to get a signal!

Buckett

26/06/2025, 3:26 PM

Tried doing that on my mobile in playstore by typin in BBC I player message says this app isnt possible on google play in your region. Think I would have to go near the border to get a signal!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer

2 Year Contract

30/06/2025, 9:33 AM

Just saw this on Twitter. It wont be any consolation to Drogheda, but they’re now not the only club that’s been thrown out on the multi club ownership ruling. Strange that this one’s been done after the draw though. Some carrot for those other two sides playing each other in the first round!

BREAKING

Slovakian media report that UEFA has made a decision to KICK OUT DAC Dunajska Streda from Conference League.

Reason is multiple club ownership, as DAC have the same owner as
Györ ETO who also participates in UECL.

Since the Q2 draw has already been made, no club can replace DAC in the competition, which means that the Q1 winner of Urartu v Neman Grodno will get a BYE to Q3!

Slovakia should continue forward with only 3 teams, but their points will be divided by 4.

2 Year Contract

30/06/2025, 9:41 AM

Also just seeing this, looks like UEFA’s most dreaded case of having to throw out a club from one of the big 5 leagues might be sorting itself out for them

UEFA postponed decision on Crystal Palace's Europa League spot due to a multi-club ownership with Lyon.

UEFA will wait for the outcome of appeal Lyon made after relegation to Ligue 2.

Lyon will be kicked out of the Europa League if relegation is confirmed.

Nesta99

30/06/2025, 10:13 AM

Also just seeing this, looks like UEFA’s most dreaded case of having to throw out a club from one of the big 5 leagues might be sorting itself out for them

Is that info very recent as I read yesterday that Lyon sorted out some transfer business, like getting add-ons up front to avoid financial sanction? All very messy!!

outspoken

30/06/2025, 10:29 AM

Is that info very recent as I read yesterday that Lyon sorted out some transfer business, like getting add-ons up front to avoid financial sanction? All very messy!!

Aye PSG paid up front for some player they bought or something

pineapple stu

30/06/2025, 10:37 AM

Thought the Palace issue was resolved given yer man sold his shares, no?

This does all sound very positive anyway if you want to avoid multi-club ownership. Which I think you do in general.

2 Year Contract

30/06/2025, 10:42 AM

Is that info very recent as I read yesterday that Lyon sorted out some transfer business, like getting add-ons up front to avoid financial sanction? All very messy!!
As of half 10 this morning yeah. The tweet is here

https://x.com/footrankings/status/1939619136549667283?s=46

A good page to follow for anything coefficient related etc

sbgawa

30/06/2025, 1:27 PM

I still say the whole thing is a joke. Put the shares in a blind trust while still running the show and you are fine.
The Forest example is the clearest of all. Owner publically bollicking the Manager even though in UEFA's eyes he isnt running Forest.
Personally i think theyd be better off just saying if two clubs are owned by the same owner both revert to the 1st qualifying round for the compeittion and play each other there.
Otherwise its just multi club ownership free for all behind rules that are a con

Buckett

30/06/2025, 1:52 PM

Personally i think theyd be better off just saying if two clubs are owned by the same owner both revert to the 1st qualifying round for the compeittion and play each other there.
Otherwise its just multi club ownership free for all behind rules that are a con

That's a really good idea

EalingGreen

30/06/2025, 2:05 PM

Also just seeing this, looks like UEFA’s most dreaded case of having to throw out a club from one of the big 5 leagues might be sorting itself out for themTbf, it's not like they're trying to keep s.o. from the Big Five in at the expense of a club from outside that group.

Anyhow, the BBC offers this interpretation of UEFA's motives:

"Uefa's decision to postpone their ruling was not a shock to Crystal Palace.
Enquiries made on Friday has led BBC Sport to believe that there is major concern among leading figures at Selhurst Park that Uefa doesn't want to rule on the matter - but wants the decision taken out of its hands by the DNCG, the regulatory body of French football.
If Lyon's relegation stands, Palace should be in next season's Europa League. If Lyon win their appeal, then Uefa will have to rule whether John Textor, who currently owns shares in both clubs, has held significant control at Palace.
Palace dispute that Textor held major control at the club and argue they are not in breach of Uefa's multi-club ownership regulations.
There is some sense at Palace that certain figures at Uefa are sympathetic with their predicament - that they earned the right to compete in next season's Europa League through sporting endeavours.
However, there is clearly a sense that the case isn't straightforward otherwise Uefa would have ruled in their favour by now."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/crmvv2p8jelo

Bear in mind, too, that if UEFA should have to rule on this matter, then it would be open to either Lyon or Palace to appeal to CAS, where they might have a stronger case than eg Drogs.

While I suspect that they're pleased that at least the PL's entrant this season could be a new team, rather than just another one from "the usual suspects".

EalingGreen

30/06/2025, 2:14 PM

I still say the whole thing is a joke. Put the shares in a blind trust while still running the show and you are fine.
The Forest example is the clearest of all. Owner publically bollicking the Manager even though in UEFA's eyes he isnt running Forest.
Except that at Forest, Marinakis is the boss 100% - no opposition, Trust or no Trust.

Whereas at Palace, Textor has long been at odds with other major shareholders. Meaning that if he did put his shares in a trust, it would effectively be "blind" i.e. he'd lose whatever influence he has. Which he's clearly not prepared to do for no return, meaning he's looking to sell the shares instead.

Personally i think theyd be better off just saying if two clubs are owned by the same owner both revert to the 1st qualifying round for the compeittion and play each other there.
Otherwise its just multi club ownership free for all behind rules that are a conCan't agree, since in those circumstances the owner (singular) would just decide which club he would prefer to go through, and instruct the other club's manager accordingly. Which would be completely against the spirit of free and fair competition.

In the end, it must be for UEFA to decide, on the basis of sporting merit.

sbgawa

30/06/2025, 3:03 PM

Except that at Forest, Marinakis is the boss 100% - no opposition, Trust or no Trust.

Whereas at Palace, Textor has long been at odds with other major shareholders. Meaning that if he did put his shares in a trust, it would effectively be "blind" i.e. he'd lose whatever influence he has. Which he's clearly not prepared to do for no return, meaning he's looking to sell the shares instead.

Can't agree, since in those circumstances the owner (singular) would just decide which clu%b he would prefer to go through, and instruct the other club's manager accordingly. Which would be completely against the spirit of free and fair competition.

In the end, it must be for UEFA to decide, on the basis of sporting merit.

100% or in the case of Textor 45% if you believe had he stayed on he would have had no significant control over club decsions (the UEFA test) just becasue he put the shares in a blind trust you are imo dreaming.
He has cashed out of Palace at the top end of valuations with them in Europe for the first time.

I also think it wouldnt be as easy as picking which team to win, its literally impossible to make that happen in real life, its illeagal for a start match fixing and impossible to keep quiet. The Manager (who you will probably be sacking soon enough) couldnt be trusted to keep quiet for ever and what about the players......and their families / Mates.

pateen

30/06/2025, 3:05 PM

Does anyone have the dates and times for LOI teams involved in Europe?

EatYerGreens

30/06/2025, 3:05 PM

pineapple stu

30/06/2025, 3:10 PM

Does anyone have the dates and times for LOI teams involved in Europe?
Wiki is usually your best source there as kick-off times get announced.

So Conference League (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025%E2%80%9326_UEFA_Conference_League_qualifying_ (first_and_second_round_matches)#Matches) and Champions League (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025%E2%80%9326_UEFA_Champions_League_qualifying_p hase_and_play-off_round#Matches).

EalingGreen

30/06/2025, 9:13 PM

100% or in the case of Textor 45% if you believe had he stayed on he would have had no significant control over club decsions (the UEFA test) just becasue he put the shares in a blind trust you are imo dreaming.
He has cashed out of Palace at the top end of valuations with them in Europe for the first time.Undoubtedly in the case of Marinakis, but Textor is different, since he's been arguing with the other Directors virtually since he arrived.

As for "cashing out", why would he voluntarily divest himself of control over the most valuable club in the Group? Sure, he might have received top dollar (though maybe not seeing as he was a forced seller), but people like that value control and power over money, which is only a means to those ends.

I also think it wouldnt be as easy as picking which team to win, its literally impossible to make that happen in real life, its illeagal for a start match fixing and impossible to keep quiet. The Manager (who you will probably be sacking soon enough) couldnt be trusted to keep quiet for ever and what about the players......and their families / Mates.

Plus - the players can do whatever they want when on the pitch. And you can't sack them if they refuse to play along with whatever they're told to do.If it were that difficult to fix, why don't UEFA just permit both sides to enter?

Naive in the extreme imo.

P.S. Dunno if I've posted it on here before, but there is an incredible piece of investigative journalism on drugs, corruption and violence in Greece here in this link:
https://newrepublic.com/article/159252/noor-one-vampire-ship-heroin-turkey-greece-corruption-scandal

It's well worth sitting doen with a cup of tea to read through it - a ceratin large, bearded Greek gentleman with an interest in football both in Greece and abroad appears about half way through.