Limerick To Be Liquidated

[Cruyff]

It's not a real circus without clowns.

Bit harsh on me there...

[Zenith]

Hah! I, of course, was not referring to your good self.

[da bishop]

It would seem to me the new entity Limerick United are\have not been doing their business properly and given the news that they will possibly have to ,,,adjust ,,,their name already is quite alarming.

[Zenith]

As far as I'm aware, trading names are not afforded the same legal protection as registered company names. I'm open to correction though.

Regardless, that wouldn't excuse the alleged ultimatum issued by the LDSL.

[Shearer]

I heard that the LDSL have sent an email to clubs banning players from attending Limerick United underage trials and threatening fines on clubs who's players attend.

Not sure about which ages but I think it applies to u13s anyway because I think the u13 assessments tonight have been cancelled as a result.

My info is a bit hazy, got it at least third hand.

Supposedly there was some arrangement made between LDSL and Limerick United regarding underage but then the was a fall out of some sort...

Anyone hear anything about that?
You are correct.
https://twitter.com/SlatteryDsla1/status/1220308405224660995?s=19


Limerick District Schoolboy League says it won't release players to trial for Limerick United U13 and U15 age groups....is this putting the player first? Whose interests are they really protecting here?

[Nesta99]

Whatever about the belief that young players are being protected, should 13-15YR olds be prevented from playing for their club of choice by witholding registrations. These are kids afterall they are not thinking of future financial potential. They just want to play football and should be allowed move at the end of a season to whomever they like and not prevented from undertaking trials. If a trial was with an EnglisH club would they be or have been blocked? Or is it just reserved for local oneupmanship...

[Cruyff]

Whatever about the belief that young players are being protected, should 13-15YR olds be prevented from playing for their club of choice by witholding registrations. These are kids afterall they are not thinking of future financial potential. They just want to play football and should be allowed move at the end of a season to whomever they like and not prevented from undertaking trials. If a trial was with an EnglisH club would they be or have been blocked? Or is it just reserved for local oneupmanship...

I'd say it's a few local clubs kicking off, now in fairness my personal opinion is 13s in particular is too young but I think 15s is about the right age to start, not saying I'm right it's just my opinion.

But, I wouldn't stop a young lad going if he wanted to go, with that said he shouldn't expect his place to be kept for him in his home club/league if he leaves either.

If your son was on a Club team or a Kennedy Cup team and some lad walked in the door in January from a league of ireland club and took his place you wouldn't be impressed I'm sure, so I think it's a choice the young lad makes, and he lives his own consequences then for better or worse.

I do not agree with barring them, I think that's too much altogether, just let them make their own choices.

However, I don't agree with League of Ireland clubs (or any other club) ringing, plauging and pestering parents looking for their kids, that could well be the issue clubs have with players thet have already signed being contacted. I.e Poaching

[disgruntled]

Whatever about the belief that young players are being protected, should 13-15YR olds be prevented from playing for their club of choice by witholding registrations. These are kids afterall they are not thinking of future financial potential. They just want to play football and should be allowed move at the end of a season to whomever they like and not prevented from undertaking trials. If a trial was with an EnglisH club would they be or have been blocked? Or is it just reserved for local oneupmanship...

Registrations can't be withheld.
Its just begrudgery & nothing more.
Shameful carry on.

[osarusan]

The Sun reporting that another list of fixtures, for an 11-team division, with 20 league matches and a Shield competition, will be released tomorrow.

Seems like it's a provisional structure for if/when Limerick FC's licence is granted.

https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/5018412/new-first-division-fixture-list-released-20-game-season/

[disgruntled]

The Sun reporting that another list of fixtures, for an 11-team division, with 20 league matches and a Shield competition, will be released tomorrow.

Seems like it's a provisional structure for if/when Limerick FC's licence is granted.

https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/5018412/new-first-division-fixture-list-released-20-game-season/

You couldn't make it up if you tried although someone obviously did :rolleyes:

[NeverFeltBetter]

20 matches!

How would the Shield work with 11 teams? Groups of 5 and 6? 4 and 4 and 3? Invite in some junior sides?

[gufct]

You couldn't make it up if you tried although someone obviously did :rolleyes:
Clubs have their budgets done based on 27 games and the shield will have zero interest. Time the clubs copped on and spoke with one voice.

[pineapple stu]

If Limerick have legally shown they shouldn't have been denied the chance to apply for a licence, then the clubs piping up about this is irrelevant.

What will likely happen - unfortunately for Limerick fans - is that O'Sullivan will have his licence denied and it'll be back to 10 teams

[osarusan]

What will likely happen - unfortunately for Limerick fans - is that O'Sullivan will have his licence denied and it'll be back to 10 teams

Most likely, although O'Sullivan would probably go to court again, and would argue that FAI's earlier attempt to not allow Limerick to even apply for a licence is evidence of predjudice or whatever.

Could get very very messy.

[NeverFeltBetter]

If Limerick have legally shown they shouldn't have been denied the chance to apply for a licence, then the clubs piping up about this is irrelevant.

What will likely happen - unfortunately for Limerick fans - is that O'Sullivan will have his licence denied and it'll be back to 10 teams

Don't know about that! I'm perfectly happy to build from the ground up with Limerick United rather than continue with POS' circus. I'm sure I'm not alone.

[Mr A]

I heard that the LDSL have sent an email to clubs banning players from attending Limerick United underage trials and threatening fines on clubs who's players attend.

Not sure about which ages but I think it applies to u13s anyway because I think the u13 assessments tonight have been cancelled as a result.

My info is a bit hazy, got it at least third hand.

Supposedly there was some arrangement made between LDSL and Limerick United regarding underage but then the was a fall out of some sort...

Anyone hear anything about that?

It's little fecking wonder Limerick has not been producing international players when you read this kind of nonsense.

[Mr A]

Clubs have their budgets done based on 27 games and the shield will have zero interest. Time the clubs copped on and spoke with one voice.

It's an absolute scandal what D1 clubs are having to deal with. Were they consulted on a change to 20 games? Of course not.. If a league was trying to kill off its clubs it couldn't do a better job than the way D1 has been handled recently.

[disgruntled]

It's little fecking wonder Limerick has not been producing international players when you read this kind of nonsense.

That's the problem with football in this country.
Its all Me Me Me :mad:
No one see the bigger picture.
Its never changed in all the years I've followed football the game.

[gufct]

That's the problem with football in this country.
Its all Me Me Me :mad:
No one see the bigger picture.
Its never changed in all the years I've followed football the game.


Worse will have to wait for licences to be issued on the 6th February 15 days before the season kicks off ffs!

So it’s ok for rovers and **** the other teams in the 1st division.

[NeverFeltBetter]

I assume some kind of legal barrier must now exist to kicking Shams B out of the First Division right? Why else would they still be trying to accommodate them?

[disgruntled]

Worse will have to wait for licences to be issued on the 6th February 15 days before the season kicks off ffs!

So it’s ok for rovers and **** the other teams in the 1st division.

Its very inconvenient on the other 1st Div clubs here who don't know where or who they'll be playing.

The FAI were at fault here.
You can't refuse to let a club apply for a licence & the court showed that.
They should have left all the clubs apply for licences & then give them to the clubs who fulfilled the criteria.
But logical thinking was never an FAI strong point

[disgruntled]

I assume some kind of legal barrier must now exist to kicking Shams B out of the First Division right? Why else would they still be trying to accommodate them?

You can't allow a club entry to a competition & then just throw them out again.
That's against any kind of common justice.
The FAI wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

[nigel-harps1954]

What happens to season tickets when a club ends up with a 20 game season?

10 home games and selling season tickets for 14/15 home games.

This could get very messy indeed.

[sbgawa]

You can't allow a club entry to a competition & then just throw them out again.
That's against any kind of common justice.
The FAI wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

In all this **** rovers have applied and followed the rules . If Pos has a gripe then rovers have 100

[Ezeikial]

In all this **** rovers have applied and followed the rules . If Pos has a gripe then rovers have 100

Rovers are more in need of a striker than a victim mentality

[NeverFeltBetter]

And bear in mind that I haven't heard a withdrawal of the threat to refuse to play Shams B. So it could yet be an 18 game season!

[Trainee]

All 9 clubs wrote to FAI saying they will refuse to play Rovers B. Will Pat O Sullivan agree to do the same?

[Paulgufc]

Refusing to play Rovers B is just daft.

[Park_Lane]

All 9 clubs wrote to FAI saying they will refuse to play Rovers B. Will Pat O Sullivan agree to do the same?

He may have to play Rovers B... In limerick colours if he gets a licence as he has feck all else players

[KBurke]

I assume some kind of legal barrier must now exist to kicking Shams B out of the First Division right? Why else would they still be trying to accommodate them?

Don't see how. No licenses have been issued yet so therefore Shams B aren't actually in the league yet. Like Limerick and all clubs they are allowed apply for a licence to compete in the league.

In fairness though licenses should be done and dusted before teams even get back into preseason.

[NeverFeltBetter]

But if they revoked the offer now, couldn't Sham also go the legal route? Unless it is laid down in black and white somewhere that the FD has to be ten clubs, they could claim they are being treated unfairly by being asked to give way. As stated, they've broken no rules, and are presumably budgeting for a B side to exist.

[osarusan]

Provisional fixture list released, a Shield makes up the first 6 weeks of the season, then the 20 games.

The whole thing may well be scrapped anyway, but just one small point - does anybody else think that Rovers II should be the club with no fixture on the final day of the season, seeing as they wouldn't be promoted anyway?

[sbgawa]

Good idea for rovers to be fixtureless on last day.
Where did u see the fixture list?

[nigel-harps1954]

Good idea for rovers to be fixtureless on last day.
Where did u see the fixture list?

https://www.sseairtricityleague.ie/news/2020-sse-airtricity-league-draft-first-division-fixture-list/id-3120

There seems to be no shield final...it just finishes and goes straight into league games.

[The Donie Forde]

The whole thing may well be scrapped anyway, but just one small point - does anybody else think that Rovers II should be the club with no fixture on the final day of the season, seeing as they wouldn't be promoted anyway?


They really do it on purpose, don't they?

[Martinho II]

Why could the loi not have a first division cup like that they did in the 02/03 shortened season when Harps beat Kildare Co in the Final. This takes the biscuit!

[nigel-harps1954]

Why could the loi not have a first division cup like that they did in the 02/03 shortened season when Harps beat Kildare Co in the Final. This takes the biscuit!

The greatest cup victory ever known in the league.

[Martinho II]

The greatest cup victory ever known in the league.

in your lifetime eh Nigel!

[total hoofball]

Such a relief for Shels that we got promoted in time to avoid this latest epic s-hiteshow from the FAI

[thebronze14]

The greatest cup victory ever known in the league.
The most spectacular trophy I have ever seen in person

[DCWA]

https://www.sseairtricityleague.ie/news/2020-sse-airtricity-league-draft-first-division-fixture-list/id-3120

There seems to be no shield final...it just finishes and goes straight into league games.

Truely WT absolute F

[NeverFeltBetter]

Fixtures of Shield make it seem like it was a real rush job.

Only way I can think it make it worthwhile would be to give the winner a promotion spot, or a play-off berth.

[sbgawa]

https://www.sseairtricityleague.ie/news/2020-sse-airtricity-league-draft-first-division-fixture-list/id-3120

There seems to be no shield final...it just finishes and goes straight into league games.

Would be a great incentive if the final was to be played in the Aviva as a curtain raiser to the FAI cup final. (subject to the shield finalists not being in the FAI cup final).
I assume they haven't put a date in as they were rushing to get these fixtures out to get POS lawyers off their backs and could'nt get the logistices sorted.

[NeverFeltBetter]

Would be a great incentive if the final was to be played in the Aviva as a curtain raiser to the FAI cup final. (subject to the shield finalists not being in the FAI cup final).
I assume they haven't put a date in as they were rushing to get these fixtures out to get POS lawyers off their backs and could'nt get the logistices sorted.

Would they really do the Shield group games before the season started, and then do the final at the end?

Also when was the draw for this Shield?

[EatYerGreens]

https://www.sseairtricityleague.ie/news/2020-sse-airtricity-league-draft-first-division-fixture-list/id-3120

There seems to be no shield final...it just finishes and goes straight into league games.

That's because they expect the Shield winners will get decided in the Courts.

#GLITW

[sbgawa]

Would they really do the Shield group games before the season started, and then do the final at the end?

Also when was the draw for this Shield?

TBH All these fixtures are provisional as i cant see Limerick getting a Licence, it will be a 10 team 27 game league with no shield
I do like the idea of a first division cup though.
Thinking about it the first division is finished way before the cup final so a mid season final would make more sense.

[littlebray]

Way back - in the one division era - they tried the Shield (two rounds of matches) first half before the League and second half after. Didn't boost attendances, though ...

[da bishop]

Well well ,there we were thinking we would have none ,now we could have three step forward Limerick Fc,Limerick United and ..wait for it.....Treaty United...….its going to be GREAT.

[Eminence Grise]

That's just tempting fate. I can see the 2022 headline now: One More Broken Treaty for Limerick. Don't feed the pun-merchants, hey?

[Zenith]

https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/sport/513415/new-club-limerick-united-forced-into-name-change.html