Jason Knight (M Bristol City b.2001)

[pineapple stu]

A goal and an assist tonight as Derby draw 2-2 against Luton. Relegation looks almost certain if they are hit with a further nine point deduction as threatened for breach of FFP rules. If he can get a good run of form this season (and Derby are mid-table before points deductions) then he should be able to sort a decent transfer in the summer - or even earlier if Derby need money to pay creditors. Could be one to watch in the coming months.

[Diggs246]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11696/12469898/derby-county-hit-with-further-nine-point-deduction-for-breaching-efl-rules

His agent needs to get to work today and get him a move in January.

Burnley could be a suitable place

[elatedscum]

I’d want every creative player we have avoiding burnley as long as Dyche is there... fine for a big unit up front or a centre half but no coincidence that Brady and Hendrick’s performances for Ireland went downhill upon arriving at Burnley

[third policeman]

I’d want every creative player we have avoiding burnley as long as Dyche is there... fine for a big unit up front or a centre half but no coincidence that Brady and Hendrick’s performances for Ireland went downhill upon arriving at Burnley

Would prefer a Brentford, Southampton or Crystal Palace.

[dynamo kerry]

Would prefer a Brentford, Southampton or Crystal Palace.
No room at Southampton I'd say and I'd prefer smallbone to advance. If he can get past ward prowse

Brentford maybe.
For some of those other premier league clubs that are safe not many have a clear habit of buying young lads. The pressure to succeed is pretty high at wolves and villa. Everton would be a good club to go to but cant see them shopping at derby

Palace have a pretty settled midfield too.

He would be wanting a club that will be prepared to take a chance and accepts relegation is possible but not guaranteed. A small cohort..

[ifk101]

Why not Juventus, Bayern Munich and Real Madrid?

He has 80+ games in the Championship, he’s arguably been our MOM in the last few senior internationals he has played, and he’s still only 20 years old – he’s far from peaking. While Juventus, Bayern Munich and Real Madrid might be beyond him at the current moment, he’s on the up and hopefully going to places a Brentford will not reach.

[Stuttgart88]

Why not Juventus, Bayern Munich and Real Madrid?

He has 80+ games in the Championship, he’s arguably been our MOM in the last few senior internationals he has played, and he’s still only 20 years old – he’s far from peaking. While Juventus, Bayern Munich and Real Madrid might be beyond him at the current moment, he’s on the up and hopefully going to places a Brentford will not reach.BL clubs certainly seem to be keen on looking at English club youth players. We have an office in Munich, all my colleagues are Bayern fans. I was telling them that Bazunu could be an ideal long term replacement for Neuer. A ball playing keeper. Rushing madly and ill-advisedly off his line at times never did Neuer much harm :)

[dynamo kerry]

BL clubs certainly seem to be keen on looking at English club youth players. We have an office in Munich, all my colleagues are Bayern fans. I was telling them that Bazunu could be an ideal long term replacement for Neuer. A ball playing keeper. Rushing madly and ill-advisedly off his line at times never did Neuer much harm :)

In much the same way Belgian players became very fashionable I think the irish team may well become a not so expensive source of talent for clubs outside the big super league 12... anyone looking at cullen might be thinking that knight would be a handy 5 to 7m gamble..

[Fixer82]

In much the same way Belgian players became very fashionable I think the irish team may well become a not so expensive source of talent for clubs outside the big super league 12... anyone looking at cullen might be thinking that knight would be a handy 5 to 7m gamble..

Cullen has flourished in Netherlands.

Would love to see more players looking outside of England.
But the player would have to accept and adapt to a different culture.
Some players don’t have the right personality for that.

Always admired Connolly, Sheridan, Stapleton, Babb, Brady, Mahon, Harte and others who were willing to go somewhere where a totally different language was spoken

[third policeman]

Cullen has flourished in Netherlands.

Would love to see more players looking outside of England.
But the player would have to accept and adapt to a different culture.
Some players don’t have the right personality for that.

Always admired Connolly, Sheridan, Stapleton, Babb, Brady, Mahon, Harte and others who were willing to go somewhere where a totally different language was spoken

Don’t forget Michael Robinson, Micky Walsh, Don Givens, Mick McCarthy, Kevin Moran, Tony Cascarino, John Byrne, Alan Campbell, Liam Buckley, Noel Campbell, Robbie Keane, and of course Liam Brady. Hopefully more to follow in the new post-Brexit scenario.

[sadloserkid]

Cullen has flourished in Netherlands.

Cullen isn't playing in the Netherlands though. :)

Aiden McGeady and John Aldridge both missing from both lists above too.

[third policeman]

Cullen isn't playing in the Netherlands though. :)

Aiden McGeady and John Aldridge both missing from both lists above too.

Good shout. Ronnie O’Brien also.

[seanfhear]

Cullen has flourished in Netherlands.

Would love to see more players looking outside of England.
But the player would have to accept and adapt to a different culture.
Some players don’t have the right personality for that.

Always admired Connolly, Sheridan, Stapleton, Babb, Brady, Mahon, Harte and others who were willing to go somewhere where a totally different language was spoken
He is also doing very well in Belgium.

[tommy_c12000]

Industrious performance as always from Knight with a well taken header from a corner (shocking defending from Bournemouth). Ebosele doing well in patches, does tend to take too much out of the ball. Needs working on his end product but he has the ingredients of developing into a very effective right sided player. Travers for me remains our 3rd choice, solid shot stopper and pretty good with ball at feet, but remains hesitant and reluctant to dominate his box from crosses. I thought the string of games would have built his confidence in this regard, but still lacking. I think it will come though.

[JR89]

Festy being left exposed at times in the first half with Knight not tracking back to help out at times. Feel Festy should have been playing RW instead of Knight and Knight playing in midfield instead of the young lad Thompson. Bournemouth looking to expose that right hand side and it's no surprise given how Derby have lined up with Knight and Festy on that side of a 4-3-3.

[JR89]

Fair play to Derby as they were much better in the second but Bournemouth will be kicking themselves after losing that game. Thompson showed me as the lad was every in that second half and showing for the ball, Knight similar and the lad could probably play back to back games without looking tired.

Festy will definitely develop into a very effective right sided player. Looked gassed towards the end and don't think it's the first time. Hopefully can keep picking up good minutes this season and if they drop to League One he'll surely be a big player for them. Knight I wouldn't be surprised if he's off in January, and Burnley will definitely be in for him to try beat others to his signature before the summer.

[JR89]

Jason Knight linked with a move away from Derby. Supposedly Derby need to raise money and Knight is linked with an £8m move to either Leeds or Burnley. Newcastle and Everton are two other clubs also mentioned as showing interest in Knight.

Also made his 100th appearance for Derby at the weekend. If he does move this month would love for it to be Leeds. Long term I think that move works out best for him. The lad is still rough around the edges and a coach like Bielsa could get the best out of him.

Short term he might see his game time drop, though Leeds are being hit bad with injuries ATM. With the amount of game time he's gotten so far at Derby I think he can afford the short term drop for a long term gain of improving himself all round as player by working with someone like Bielsa.

[mark12345]

Jason Knight linked with a move away from Derby. Supposedly Derby need to raise money and Knight is linked with an £8m move to either Leeds or Burnley. Newcastle and Everton are two other clubs also mentioned as showing interest in Knight.

Also made his 100th appearance for Derby at the weekend. If he does move this month would love for it to be Leeds. Long term I think that move works out best for him. The lad is still rough around the edges and a coach like Bielsa could get the best out of him.

Short term he might see his game time drop, though Leeds are being hit bad with injuries ATM. With the amount of game time he's gotten so far at Derby I think he can afford the short term drop for a long term gain of improving himself all round as player by working with someone like Bielsa.

Can't see him getting into the Leeds or even Newcastle midfield. Maybe, just maybe there'd be a place for him at Burnley. He is rough around the edges as you say, but he has time to fine-tune his game.

[pineapple stu]

Jason Knight linked with a move away from Derby. Supposedly Derby need to raise money and Knight is linked with an £8m move to either Leeds or Burnley. Newcastle and Everton are two other clubs also mentioned as showing interest in Knight.
No supposedly about it - sure they're in administration. It's as I called in post #101. Be a great move for him - 100 club appearances (mostly the full 90 minutes) is great experience for a guy who's not 21 till next month too.

[JR89]

No supposedly about it - sure they're in administration. It's as I called in post #101. Be a great move for him - 100 club appearances (mostly the full 90 minutes) is great experience for a guy who's not 21 till next month too.

Obviously they are ****ed, think they need to raise money in order to actually see the season out. It's why they've been slapped with a transfer embargo because they can't prove they've the money needed to finish the season without a takeover happening.

[Diggs246]

Jason Knight linked with a move away from Derby. Supposedly Derby need to raise money and Knight is linked with an £8m move to either Leeds or Burnley. Newcastle and Everton are two other clubs also mentioned as showing interest in Knight.

Also made his 100th appearance for Derby at the weekend. If he does move this month would love for it to be Leeds. Long term I think that move works out best for him. The lad is still rough around the edges and a coach like Bielsa could get the best out of him.

Short term he might see his game time drop, though Leeds are being hit bad with injuries ATM. With the amount of game time he's gotten so far at Derby I think he can afford the short term drop for a long term gain of improving himself all round as player by working with someone like Bielsa.

I agree, he will have to win his place. But thats football. It would be a great move.
Burnley may be relegated so I wouldn't fancy that. Newcastle won't work either.

[JR89]

I agree, he will have to win his place. But thats football. It would be a great move.
Burnley may be relegated so I wouldn't fancy that. Newcastle won't work either.

And unlike Newcastle I can't see Burnley coming back up if either club gets relegated.

[passinginterest]

I think he gets game time at any of Leeds, Burnley, Newcastle or Everton. How much will probably depend on his immediate impact in the initial chances. None of those clubs are making a signing in January this year that they don't intend on giving game time to immediately in order to improve their situation. Leeds could be great for him, if Rooney moved to Everton and he followed it could work out great, but would also be the most potential for disaster.

[tetsujin1979]

Knight and Ebosele named in the 21 under 21 EFL players to watch
https://www.skysports.com/football/story-telling/11688/12532024/21-under-21-young-stars-of-the-efl

[JR89]

Knight and Ebosele named in the 21 under 21 EFL players to watch
https://www.skysports.com/football/story-telling/11688/12532024/21-under-21-young-stars-of-the-efl

Festy could be joining Udinese too.

1489529175375585283

[paul_oshea]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrhys_Dolan

Good chance this lad is eligible?

How is he doing a medical now? Has the transfer window not closed? Or is the Italian one different?

Of the two the last day he stood out much more than knight. Interesting why udinese are involved with Irish players all of a sudden

[JR89]

Free agent in the summer and can sign a pre contract.

[joey B]

Any transfer rumours for Knight? Wonder would it be a Premier league team or Top Championship side that would be better for his development? Would love to see him in the Premier league personally…

[joey B]

Linked with Burnley….

[mark12345]

Wouldn't be the worst move in the world for him. And with Company in charge Jason is likely to improve his standards

[CSAD]

This would be a typical unambitious move Irish players that go nowhere have been known for, Knight has 70+ games in the Championship at the age of 20, what will he learn playing another season there? An ambitious player who wants to go to the very top should be backing themselves in the premiership to fight for their place in the team at the weekend, that along with training with better players day in day out makes a premiership move the clear option, if a PL team comes in for him then he shouldn’t even consider Burnley.

And can people stop this nonsense that Kompany is a god and will improve all these Burnley, there is absolutely 0 evidence this will happen and if anything with the amount of players they are losing there is a far greater chance Burnley will be mid table than challenging for promotion.

[seanfhear]

This would be a typical unambitious move Irish players that go nowhere have been known for, Knight has 70+ games in the Championship at the age of 20, what will he learn playing another season there? An ambitious player who wants to go to the very top should be backing themselves in the premiership to fight for their place in the team at the weekend, that along with training with better players day in day out makes a premiership move the clear option, if a PL team comes in for him then he shouldn’t even consider Burnley.

And can people stop this nonsense that Kompany is a god and will improve all these Burnley, there is absolutely 0 evidence this will happen and if anything with the amount of players they are losing there is a far greater chance Burnley will be mid table than challenging for promotion.
And what if a Premiership club does not come in for him ?

[third policeman]

And what if a Premiership club does not come in for him ?

They quite possibly won’t. Knight has been a consistently effective player at Derby, but has also been a stand out player for us at international level. I don’t doubt he has PL pedigree but playing well for Ireland and playing well in the Championship doesn’t seem to be enough to get automatically noticed by PL clubs anymore.

[paul_oshea]

This would be a typical unambitious move Irish players that go nowhere have been known for, Knight has 70+ games in the Championship at the age of 20, what will he learn playing another season there? An ambitious player who wants to go to the very top should be backing themselves in the premiership to fight for their place in the team at the weekend, that along with training with better players day in day out makes a premiership move the clear option, if a PL team comes in for him then he shouldn’t even consider Burnley.

And can people stop this nonsense that Kompany is a god and will improve all these Burnley, there is absolutely 0 evidence this will happen and if anything with the amount of players they are losing there is a far greater chance Burnley will be mid table than challenging for promotion.

Good post. As the brits would say " a nonsense" around Kompany because he had Cullen playing for him and Cullen has been effective for us in most of his games.

[CSAD]

And what if a Premiership club does not come in for him ?

He’s a 20 year old full international who’s got 70+ championship appearances, even captaining them at times, and is now in L1 and will likely go for cheap…if there isn’t Premiership interest I’d be shocked and if we are being honest there is about as much interest from the PL as there is from Burnley…

[seanfhear]

He’s a 20 year old full international who’s got 70+ championship appearances, even captaining them at times, and is now in L1 and will likely go for cheap…if there isn’t Premiership interest I’d be shocked and if we are being honest there is about as much interest from the PL as there is from Burnley…
There certainly is a lot of clubs that could afford to buy him.

[CSAD]

There certainly is a lot of clubs that could afford to buy him.

Even if a PL team only wanted him as a sporadic player I’d be shocked if there wasn’t interest.

[irishfan86]

Certainly he's a player with promise, but I'm not sure I've seen enough to indicate he would vastly improve a team at premier league level. Maybe he would belong there, but on paper he's a promising young player on a team that just got relegated to League 1 -- and a promising player on an international team which has done nothing significant in a long time.

While I'd love to see him go to the Prem and start there, perhaps playing on a promotion pushing Championship team is more appropriate at this stage of his development.

[Razors left peg]

I wonder would there be any interest in Knight from outside of England? We've seen a few young Irish lads going to Italy recently. Knight would definitely be technically good enough to play in any top division I think.

Probably wishful thinking on my part but I love seeing that some Irish lads are willing to go further afield. Ollie O'Neill going on loan to Croatia is another recent example.

In Knights case there would be a fairly decent fee involved that would put off some clubs but as others have said he has proved himself in the Championship already so I'd like to think he can do better

[CSAD]

Certainly he's a player with promise, but I'm not sure I've seen enough to indicate he would vastly improve a team at premier league level. Maybe he would belong there, but on paper he's a promising young player on a team that just got relegated to League 1 -- and a promising player on an international team which has done nothing significant in a long time.

While I'd love to see him go to the Prem and start there, perhaps playing on a promotion pushing Championship team is more appropriate at this stage of his development.

He’s already done that, going to another championship team is just a typical conservative Irish move, he needs to back himself at a higher level if he wants to keep improving as he’ll be training with and playing against better players day in day out.

[CSAD]

Going to another championship is great if Knights target is to be a bang average premiership player (at best). If he wants to do better than that he needs to back himself to make the step up, that’s what Collins did and now it’s what Bazunu has done.

[Jd2793]

knight is still young, a move to a top champ club would do him good, we can see is he upto it within a better side. i see no adv of holding out for some PL move where hed likely be getting sub minutes. 1 impressive season in the championship is enough to grab attention these days from the mid table pl clubs these days, olise at reading , downes at swans etc. i do think PL clubs are waiting to see how hed do with a better team

[Eirambler]

I like Knight but I'm not sure he has the same potential as Bazunu and Collins. I think he'll play a good amount of Premier League football but maybe not for one of the top teams, whereas the other two have the potential to play in teams that challenge for titles.

[pineapple stu]

He’s already done that
He's already done what - played for a promotion-pushing Championship team? No he hasn't. He's had two seasons battling relegation (once unsuccessfully, once surviving by one point) and his first season was mostly spent in the lower half of the table.

I don't think a player can really just demand a move to a Premier Division side and it'll happen, especially with squad caps. I think you may be being a bit unrealistic in your criticism there.

[Olé Olé]

He's already done what - played for a promotion-pushing Championship team? No he hasn't. He's had two seasons battling relegation (once unsuccessfully, once surviving by one point) and his first season was mostly spent in the lower half of the table.

I don't think a player can really just demand a move to a Premier Division side and it'll happen, especially with squad caps. I think you may be being a bit unrealistic in your criticism there.

Someone has fallen victim to the British media narrative regarding Lampard's time in charge there!

[pineapple stu]

Well in fairness Lampard did take Derby to the play-offs, but Knight didn't make his debut until the following season.

[seanfhear]

He's already done what - played for a promotion-pushing Championship team? No he hasn't. He's had two seasons battling relegation (once unsuccessfully, once surviving by one point) and his first season was mostly spent in the lower half of the table.

I don't think a player can really just demand a move to a Premier Division side and it'll happen, especially with squad caps. I think you may be being a bit unrealistic in your criticism there.Knight should force a Premiership club to sign him ! Why Not ? ( wink )

[tetsujin1979]

Well in fairness Lampard did take Derby to the play-offs, but Knight didn't make his debut until the following season.
Lampard did name Knight on the bench a few times towards the end of that season

[CSAD]

knight is still young, a move to a top champ club would do him good, we can see is he upto it within a better side. i see no adv of holding out for some PL move where hed likely be getting sub minutes. 1 impressive season in the championship is enough to grab attention these days from the mid table pl clubs these days, olise at reading , downes at swans etc. i do think PL clubs are waiting to see how hed do with a better team

He’s had 2 full seasons as a starter at Championship level, what will he learn doing the same thing for a 2nd season? Ummm there is a huge advantage, he trains against better players every day, constantly being challenged meaning he’ll pushed to improve, plays against better players at the weekend, play in squad with greater depth meaning he won’t be totally flogged by the end of the season. If he was English he would without question be pushing for a PL move because he knows it’s what he needs to take his game to the next level but we in Ireland have a culture of conservatism and taking the safe bet which usually doesn’t work yet we still do it.

You’re argument about not goi g to the premier league is the mentality of a player that will go nowhere, hopefully Knight had abit more ambition with his career.

[CSAD]

I like Knight but I'm not sure he has the same potential as Bazunu and Collins. I think he'll play a good amount of Premier League football but maybe not for one of the top teams, whereas the other two have the potential to play in teams that challenge for titles.

Pretty sure I can remember the same excuses being made about Collins when he signed for Burnley “oh he’ll be on bench and get no game time behind Tarsowki and Mee, he should stay at the championship and play week in week out”…1 season later and look where he’s at now, how did he get there? Because at a premiership club and at that level he’s being challenged week in week out to be better, that challenge just isn’t there at championship level, that’s why for Knights development the best thing possible is to sign for a PL team of the offer is there, a signing for a championship club at this stage is for a player with little ambition and is happy to be a journey man, a player who is backing himself to make it at the highest level will want to go up a level and not make a sideways move.