Potential Dundalk Manager

[Ezeikial]

http://www.wexfordfc.ie/latest-news/704-wexford-fc-club-statement-re-stephen-kenny

Shams bound to issue a statement shortly.

Is someone canvassing doing a dragon-style presidential type canvas of League of Ireland clubs?

[sbgawa]

The board of wexford just proved they are stupid as the boards of pats and derry

[mcgonigle]

Come on Rovers do the right thing and publicly endorse the man you prematurely sacked for the biggest job in the country

[osarusan]

Ah lads this is embarrassing stuff.

[sbgawa]

Come on Rovers do the right thing and publicly endorse the man you prematurely sacked for the biggest job in the country

Funny how u boys always obsess about him getting sacked at rovers, what about dunfirmiline ? Or Derry with the double contracts or anywhere else he left.
I doubt dunfirmiline are worried about him, dundalk was right for him and good luck to him, didn't work out elsewhere, it happens, and it'll happen again

[mcgonigle]

Funny how u boys always obsess about him getting sacked at rovers, what about dunfirmiline ? Or Derry with the double contracts or anywhere else he left.
I doubt dunfirmiline are worried about him, dundalk was right for him and good luck to him, didn't work out elsewhere, it happens, and it'll happen again

The new trend on foot.ie, mention another club get called obsessed.

[Kingswood Rover]

Looks like Mick, on the kenny thing yes he did not succeed at Rovers with that disappointment being compounded 100 fold through his subsequent success at Dundalk but on a purely footbaling choice i would love to see him being given a chance managing our international side Mick is same old same old, safe pair of hands and all that where is the imagination and outside the box thinking Mr Delaney.

[sbgawa]

Kenny would have played football and at least if we didn't qualify we would be able to enjoy watching the games. When Ireland were playing Denmark last week I ended up watching highlights of the all blacks game on a different channel because I couldn't be bothered watching the muck being served up by o neil.
He also would have played maybe Dylan watts in midfield instead of Cyrus Christie FFS. Or McGrath or mceneff or Benson......How could that not be an improvement........opportunity missed and he wouldn't have cost 1.2 million

[Asterix]

So looks like Kenny is taking the ireland u-21s job. Can't see dundalk collapsing like Rovers did when MON left no matter who takes over with the rich owners etc and most if not all of the current squad signed up for next year?

[Jack B]

I just hope Stephen Kenny remembers to thank us for getting him this gig.

[sidcon]

As a bohs fan I'm worried, Long wants try managing fulltime and if offered he would go I'm sure without a doubt

[Martinho II]

So looks like Kenny is taking the ireland u-21s job. Can't see dundalk collapsing like Rovers did when MON left no matter who takes over with the rich owners etc and most if not all of the current squad signed up for next year?

dont forget nearly 20 years ago when stephen managed us he was irish under 20 manager or something like that. brian kerr was manager with st pats ath and then went to irish underage team. I like to think if Stephen takes it he will make a huge difference to the irish underage structure.

[Yossarian]

Have to say I’m gutted. If he’d left for the main gig then fair enough, but the u21s? What if he’s a disaster with them, does he still get the main job. If he’d stayed with Dundalk and continued his success he’d have been a shoe in next time anyway.

[brendy_éire]

This is all very strange.
If McCarthy does really well, we send him packing.
If Kenny has a nightmare with the U21s, we give him the senior job.
I don't get why this decision has been made.

However, from a purely Derry City point of view, happy days!

[White Horse]

As a bohs fan I'm worried, Long wants try managing fulltime and if offered he would go I'm sure without a doubt

I'd say he will be top of the list.

[Jack B]

It's not that strange really, if anything it's the first bit of forward thinking the FAI have shown in an age.

The only slight potential for confusion is if McCarthy completely overachieves, but I think that's a relatively safe bet.

The point is that this is (reported as being as, anyway) with a VIEW to taking over the senior team, ie this affords both Kenny a good opportunity to acclimitise to an international set-up before jumping straight into the big one, and also the suits an opportunity to weigh up his performance at a lower level.

It's not as if it's set in stone that Kenny gets it regardless of whether he completely bombs or not.

It's been proven over the years that planning ahead in international football tends to bear fruit. I don't trust the FAI to actually pull anything off and the McCarthy appointment in isolation couldn't be duller, but credit where it's due I think this is actually a smart move all round.

And it'll probably even things up a bit in the LOI and all. Grand job.

[Calcio Jack]

Seems there is a Santa Claus after all

[White Horse]

Its a PR stunt by the FAI.

The reaction to McCarthy being appointed shocked them and this is their response.

I can understand Kenny being tempted by the opportunity. I hope, for his sake, that they don't screw him.

[El-Pietro]

Ding dong the witch is dead.

[White Horse]

Ding dong the witch is dead.

Classy as ever.

[El-Pietro]

Classy as ever.
What do you expect. I'm delighted. Wait til you hear who has been approached for the Dundalk job already!!!

[sbgawa]

Rovers should issue a statement backing Keith long for the dundalk job :)

[pineapple stu]

Wait til you hear who has been approached for the Dundalk job already!!!

Please be Caulfield
Please be Caulfield

[micls]

Please be Caulfield
Please be Caulfield

Obviously I don't want to lose JC, but I would absolutely die laughing if he's been approached for it. Just imagine their fans reactions

[El-Pietro]

Please be Caulfield
Please be Caulfield
I'm saying nattin

[sbgawa]

Double post

[Ezeikial]

Bradser spotted in Dundalk this evening - he looked lost

[sbgawa]

I wonder if bradser did get the DFC job would it be possible for EZ to post more often about him :)

[total hoofball]

As a bohs fan I'm worried, Long wants try managing fulltime and if offered he would go I'm sure without a doubt
Does Long not already have a day career?

If it's not Long approached for the job I can't see many other suitable candidates around the league, Kenny Shiels may actually be the best of a bad bunch available...

[Ezeikial]

I wonder if bradser did get the DFC job would it be possible for EZ to post more often about him :)

Neither of those things are possible

[mcgonigle]

I'm saying nattin

You know as much about it as Cork know about defending titles

[placid casual]

Oh, you have to admit.
This is funny as £uck..

Perhaps Noel king could take over.😋

[RathfarnhamHoop]

Apparently Kenny has been given the U21 job but also the job of overseeing all the other underage teams to get his vision in order for two years time. If that's true and you take the u21 job as a way to get him used to being a manager with players spread all over the place with limited training time and assuming McCarthy intends to retire in 2 years and told the FAI he only wanted to be involved for 2 years to help them get their house in order and will definitely step down in 2 year then I can't believe I'm going to say this but it seems like decent planning by the FAI.

[joey B]

Impossible to replace what Kenny brought Dundalk,there was a certain invincibility about them under Kenny at times,good luck to anyone trying to replace him....

[bluemovie]

Martin O'Neill to Dundalk - done deal

[sbgawa]

With double the budget of the next team and most of the team signed up for next year any manager (except roddy maybe) is overwhelming favourite to win the league.

[total hoofball]

With double the budget of the next team and most of the team signed up for next year any manager (except roddy maybe) is overwhelming favourite to win the league.
Similar enough to 2012 when the dominating cash rich Shamrock Rovers lost their manager to the international ranks, their new manager was not expected to balls it up and get sacked before the season is out!

[nigel-harps1954]

The only thing is Dundalk have plenty of time to get this right. Cast the net far and wide, and have a real go of getting a top quality manager in. They've got the budget to attract a manager from a decent level.

[sbgawa]

Not even nearly the same the Europa league was completely fifth division at the time rovers qualified. dundalk got 6 to 7 times the cash an d have been bought by a billionaire group. The money in football has changed Dramatically, that's not biased opinion it's just facts

[**FrOsTy**]

Alan Reynolds on the advice of Kenny is the rumour in Waterford.

[sbgawa]

Anything today is probably BS but Alan Reynolds does play nice ball and with in relative terms small money

[oriel]

Well that's a fair point on the Europa league earnings, I think Dundalk still have 2.5m in the bank, so in a good position and apart from the McEleny transfer I don't think they have dipped into the P6 funds yet. This is still obviously very disappointing that he is leaving and for the u21 job. It's also bizarre that seemingly regardless of his performance he will get the big job in 2020.

On his replacement. This is going to be a big call, and the Chicago based guys will want to get it right to keep their project and euro earnings on track. It will attract decent interest for sure, may be second in overall trophies and not the best supported team but I would still argue it's probably the biggest club job in the country on current turnover and recent trophies.

Will be interesting if they go within the league or say England. Also important to note this will be P6's first time dealing with a new contract for the manager as Kenny had signed an extension before they came on board. On that the FAI will surely have to pay compensation unless a clause was inserted.

Edit. I can't see Reynolds, Dundalk will be looking for a manager who has more experience and possibly European or bigger league profile.

[sbgawa]

I think peak 6 will go outside the loi , there was plenty of talk of Kenny looking for a way out as peak 6 weren't convinced he was the man for th e project. If they didn't have faith in him who else in the league ?
Explains why he would leave dfc for the 21's and an FAI " promise" of the main job

[seand]

I think peak 6 will go outside the loi , there was plenty of talk of Kenny looking for a way out as peak 6 weren't convinced he was the man for th e project. If they didn't have faith in him who else in the league ?
Explains why he would leave dfc for the 21's and an FAI " promise" of the main job

Really? Not in Dundalk there wasn't.

[sbgawa]

Seriously how hard would it have been for peak 6 to get him to stay instead of taking the under 21s and an FAI "promise" of a job in 2 years time if they had really tried.

I wanted Kenny to get the main job was it would have been good for football in this country but this is a joke

[sullanefc]

I think peak 6 will go outside the loi , there was plenty of talk of Kenny looking for a way out as peak 6 weren't convinced he was the man for th e project. If they didn't have faith in him who else in the league ?
Explains why he would leave dfc for the 21's and an FAI " promise" of the main job
More likely to be Kenny not convinced by peak6 rather than the other way around surely?

[sbgawa]

With my rovers hat on I think this is bad news , I expect peak6 to pick there man from outside loi and give him a n even bigger budget.

[sullanefc]

With my rovers hat on I think this is bad news , I expect peak6 to pick there man from outside loi and give him a n even bigger budget.

As a city fan, I am not worried. Peak6 can only increase the budget by dipping into europa league prize money (which is finite) or use their own money (which decreases profits). I can't see them doing the latter for too long.

Even if the new man wins the league next year, it's hard to see it last. Kenny was their biggest asset.

As a City fan i'm more worried about shamrock overtaking us next year.

[oriel]

As a (Cork) City fan i'm more worried about shamrock overtaking us next year.

Do you mean into second place ? I wouldn't rule out P6 not dipping into their funds as early as this pre season, it has to be in their interest to keep the football side as strong as possible. Seeded in CL r1 would give a good opportunity to play and get paid on 3 rounds and min 1.2m.

Also if Dundalk win the league next year, even if they win through 2 rounds it will almost guarantee future seeding for at least 2 more years and more earnings, I think it could last a bit longer. The gap will surely get bigger then between where they'll be and clubs who are in the EL ?

[sullanefc]

Do you mean into second place ? I wouldn't rule out P6 not dipping into their funds as early as this pre season, it has to be in their interest to keep the football side as strong as possible.

Ya, I think shamrock will close the gap on city. How dundalk react to losing kenny may or may not bring them back into the pack.

If history tells us anything, dynasties don't last too long in the loi.