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sullanefc
24/11/2018, 8:30 PM
As a City fan, I do think it is a bit Dundalky. I would prefer a bit of yellow and green trim in tribute to Cork Celtic, but there you go.

If City and Dundalk were at opposite ends of the table then it's a non issue. But being rivals at the moment, then it's careless faux pas that the football fans on our BOM should have been more sensitive to.

To the Dundalk fans who think it's in homage to them?? Dream on.

Eminence Grise
24/11/2018, 10:36 PM
As I understand it, the main part of Dundalk's jersey looks more white than black, and Cork's looks more black than white. It's obviously a negative for Caulfield.

Nesta99
25/11/2018, 12:42 PM
to the naked eye that cork city away jersey is more black than white. dundalks is more white than black. end of story. i rest my case.

Have you looked at the series of our own away kits on the previous page. sullen has described what fan should have been in the back of the mind. Its going to have plenty of jibes at games. I am far from upset I think its a great shirt and Dundalk fans like it, it is a strange choice at this time. When it was Cork and Drogheda that were rivals for a seaspn or 2 and if claret and blue were picked as club colours it would raise eyebrows, it is the very same scenario as to now no matter how Cork fans want to dress it up.

micls
25/11/2018, 1:01 PM
No, it's not, because we haven't previously had claret and blue and a campaign about going back to it would simply be weird. Despite your incorrect claims that we haven't used the colours before, and somehow acting as if it's irrelevant, it's not.

Again, you seem to want city fans to be annoyed, and are adamant that's how we 'should' feel. But the vast majority are not. And the idea that we should care that it would lead to jibes at games :D come off it.

Martinho II
25/11/2018, 3:36 PM
Have you looked at the series of our own away kits on the previous page. sullen has described what fan should have been in the back of the mind. Its going to have plenty of jibes at games. I am far from upset I think its a great shirt and Dundalk fans like it, it is a strange choice at this time. When it was Cork and Drogheda that were rivals for a seaspn or 2 and if claret and blue were picked as club colours it would raise eyebrows, it is the very same scenario as to now no matter how Cork fans want to dress it up.

for some reason on the laptop nesta all that appears is the photo of that cork city away jersey and none of the dundalk away kits.

Charlie Darwin
25/11/2018, 11:27 PM
Harps released a teaser of the away jersey for next season. Looks like a return to the popular luminous yellow.

https://foot.ie/attachment.php?attachmentid=2740&stc=1
Haven't read the rest of the thread but I assume the Sporting Fingal fans are out in force. You know what they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery!

osarusan
26/11/2018, 7:09 AM
When I saw it, I didn't think "but those are Dundalk's colours" and I doubt many fans at all did think that.

I very much doubt that the thought ever entered the head of those designing it either.

This thing about imitation or flattery is total horsesh!t as far as I can see, by a few posters with a long history of it.

Larry 'da' Wyse
26/11/2018, 3:34 PM
Between 'High voltage' and CCFC 'Back in Black' this thread screams AC/DC ;-) Blow up yer VAR!

Nesta99
27/11/2018, 8:45 AM
The comments on imitation or flattery were obviously tongue in cheek osurusan. Nobody would actually think that Cork were trying to imitate Dundalk. The old adage just did fit in a wink emoji way. If the jerseys on the previous page cannot be viewed that didnt help my point that this jersey and previous Dundalk ones are very similar. I was neither upset nor bothered that Cork fans werent bothered, I just found it an unusual design/colours due to similarities. People dont agree and thats fine, I will concede that I was probably projecting. I was also pretty cranky over the weekends turn of events so in an argumentative mode. I also thought that that previous Cork black strip was just black with no white stripe.

Whether directed at me or not Osarusan your final comment was unnecessary and tbh your own posts can be quite churlish and priggish. Though that is possibly your intention at times.

Pablo Escobar
27/11/2018, 10:05 AM
I also thought that that previous Cork black strip was just black with no white stripe.


I originally said we've had 2, but we've actually had 4. I forgot about the latest 2 including the one micls posted.

This is one from 10 years ago:

https://www.oldfootballshirts.com/fr/teams/c/cork-city/old-cork-city-football-shirt-s24630.html

And here's the other 2:

https://museumofjerseys.com/2017/01/10/1993-cork-city-adidas-away-kit-forced-officials-to-change-from-black-to-blue/

https://www.adverts.ie/team-sports/cork-city-fc-cork-capital-of-culture-jersey/3883380

As far as I know the final 2 were throwbacks to Cork Celtic, the 2005 version marking Cork as European Capital of Culture. As for the black and red......that was from the time of Arkaga where absolutely nothing made sense so we can probably write that off.

EatYerGreens
27/11/2018, 11:16 AM
I'm praying Derry City announce an away shirt with Lady Diana on or something - just to get us away from the mind-numbingly dull chat about whether a shirt is more black with white or white with black, and yet another thread ruined by Dundalk/Cork sniping.

sbgawa
27/11/2018, 11:21 AM
Rovers are about to launch a 3rd strip with a picture of John F Kennedy on it, should sell well with the Yanks.
Its because of the obvious link with Maureen O Hara being a lifelong fan of Rovers............she acted in a film with John Wayne who was an American .....and JFK was American and an Irish American one at that and Irish Americans wear green and white......so .....bobs your Uncle.

pineapple stu
27/11/2018, 11:57 AM
The comments on imitation or flattery were obviously tongue in cheek osurusan. Nobody would actually think that Cork were trying to imitate Dundalk.

Whether directed at me or not Osarusan your final comment was unnecessary and tbh your own posts can be quite churlish and priggish. Though that is possibly your intention at times.

Ah would you stop. "I was only joking; could you not tell?", followed by "Yeah? Well, you're one too"

Could we not raise the bar a little bit beyond pre-school?

Osarusan is one of the most level-headed posters on here and is perfectly entitled to point out another thread going down the Dundalk/Cork (or Dundalk/Rovers) toilet.

marinobohs
27/11/2018, 12:09 PM
Between 'High voltage' and CCFC 'Back in Black' this thread screams AC/DC ;-) Blow up yer VAR!

...and this thread is definitely on a 'Highway to hell' :D

Given Dundalk's huge apparent interest in the new Cork away 'shirt' perhaps CCFC should look at marketing it in The Town.Everyone wins. kinda.

marinobohs
27/11/2018, 12:10 PM
Rovers are about to launch a 3rd strip with a picture of John F Kennedy on it, should sell well with the Yanks.
Its because of the obvious link with Maureen O Hara being a lifelong fan of Rovers............she acted in a film with John Wayne who was an American .....and JFK was American and an Irish American one at that and Irish Americans wear green and white......so .....bobs your Uncle.

Wasn't JFK a serial cheat ? Oh wait I can see the connection now ;)

seand
27/11/2018, 12:15 PM
Wasn't JFK a serial cheat ? Oh wait I can see the connection now ;)

Good man, marinobohs, let's move this thread towards a good old-fashioned Bohs-Rovers bitchfest ;)

Meanwhile the rest of you will miss the epic Dundalk-Cork bantz in a couple of years when the wheels have come off and we're back in the First Division.

marinobohs
27/11/2018, 12:16 PM
Good man, marinobohs, let's move this thread towards a good old-fashioned Bohs-Rovers bitchfest ;)

Meanwhile the rest of you will miss the epic Dundalk-Cork bantz in a couple of years when the wheels have come off and we're back in the First Division.

Ah now Sean, you should know its never that black and white :o

Nesta99
27/11/2018, 1:18 PM
Ah would you stop. "I was only joking; could you not tell?", followed by "Yeah? Well, you're one too"

Could we not raise the bar a little bit beyond pre-school?

Osarusan is one of the most level-headed posters on here and is perfectly entitled to point out another thread going down the Dundalk/Cork (or Dundalk/Rovers) toilet.

Wise up Stu, for starters I didnt introduce any comment on immitation or flattery thats was someone else, what I did say was the the Wilde quote might be apt. Nobody suggested that Cork would deliberately mimick a Dundalk shirt in anything more than a mischief like manner. My question or issue was that of people not seeing the similarities until Sullen did albeit being the only one. My last post was to concede that I had misread things, over reacted, projecting on how I would feel myself etc. To quit the way I was dragging the thread in a way based entirely on my own way of seeing things. It had nothing to do with joking! and not 'could you not tell I was joking all along'. I dont get the 'you're one too' comment' as Osarusan didnt point out that the thread was going down the Dundalk/Cork (or Dundalk/Rovers) toilet. He made a sweeping comment that was snide (IMO) directed at no one in particular, am I not entitled to point that out? It wouldnt be the first time but stones in glasshouses and all that. Indeed you would have been a bit beyond preschool by not trying to make something out of nothing of my previous post above and simply taken it as it was intended. Jaysus I voiced an opinion, pushed it beyond silly, and backtracked with lightened up on it. Quote the post in full rather than edit for effect and the tone is quite obviously acknowledging that I was pushing it!!

marinobohs
27/11/2018, 1:26 PM
He doesn't have two to rub together, best leaving him to his rambles

another one you heard from the sham AGM ? or is that held in Australia now so that the owner can attend :cool:

osarusan
27/11/2018, 3:03 PM
Wise up Stu, for starters I didnt introduce any comment on immitation or flattery thats was someone else,

No, it was you.


Interesting choice of colours. If it was all black but black and white? They do say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery!

That's not really the issue for me though, the issue for me is stuff like this absolute nonsense.



You sure are repeating the same point so are you sure you are not protesting too much? There is such a tone of defeatism and resignation in your post. You say your fans dont know that black and white, even if spun as black with a bit of/some/little white, are not colours most associated with another club? That is complete horsesh!t, of course Cork fans know it they are chosing to ignore it. If they know how many extra toes we supposedly have they know our colours lol. Claiming ignorance is never a defence of anything tbh.

...

The revisionism in your post is that of a fan who is struggling with the outcome of the season and worrying about the implications for your club and indeed talking down the bizzare decision to chose current rival's colours as a kit. You feel the rivalry is at an end and so are minimising it, consigning it to a blip of the past.
It is a ridiculous attempt to turn nothing into something.

There isn't any mischief or banter or 'tongue in cheek' element to it, just garbage.


He made a sweeping comment that was snide (IMO) directed at no one in particular, am I not entitled to point that out?

I'll hold my hands up on this one, I mistook you for another Dundalk poster who does have a long history of garbage wind-ups, so my apologies for that.

Nesta99
27/11/2018, 3:35 PM
Fair enough!! I should read back before I go swinging. I cant deny I havent been in general tetchy and rant mode since the middle of last week. And yes the quoted post is bs, but it was more an attempt to stir or lash out a bit than it was some deep upset at the choice of colours. That the jersey comparisons may not have been viewable to see the similarity I was thinking how on earth the similarities could not be seen. Not that it was particularly important either way. My apologies and my excuse is being p!ssed at John Delaney, in general but more than usual after thnking we have kept an important key person to the owners money making ambitions and without that person risks them losing interest....its my excuse whether a worthy one or not is another thing.

I do still think that some of your posts can come across as priggish, so Im not all apologies, but it is foot.ie so there are no shortage of such posts myself included.

Where is Dodge these days and i'm surprised Asterix and Placid Casual aren't out and about with a smirk or two! As for Stu well if you are going to quote quote the lot, If I put a smiley at the end here does that mean I can claim 'only joking' later on:p:confused:

Eminence Grise
27/11/2018, 6:30 PM
my excuse is being p!ssed at John Delaney

This should be foot.ie's version of the get out of jail card in Monopoly!

sullanefc
27/11/2018, 7:39 PM
. My question or issue was that of people not seeing the similarities until Sullen did albeit being the only one.

I'm the only one agreeing with you and you get my name wrong!!! Tsk.

sullanefc
27/11/2018, 7:45 PM
I originally said we've had 2, but we've actually had 4. I forgot about the latest 2 including the one micls posted.

This is one from 10 years ago:

https://www.oldfootballshirts.com/fr/teams/c/cork-city/old-cork-city-football-shirt-s24630.html

And here's the other 2:

https://museumofjerseys.com/2017/01/10/1993-cork-city-adidas-away-kit-forced-officials-to-change-from-black-to-blue/

https://www.adverts.ie/team-sports/cork-city-fc-cork-capital-of-culture-jersey/3883380

As far as I know the final 2 were throwbacks to Cork Celtic, the 2005 version marking Cork as European Capital of Culture. As for the black and red......that was from the time of Arkaga where absolutely nothing made sense so we can probably write that off.
No issue with the last 2 with the yellow trim. As you said, a nod to the past.

As bad as Arkaga were, at least it had some connection to our colours with the red trim.

If you remove the sponsors on the shirt that micls posted then it is plain black and white, which has no connection to us, but at least Dundalk weren't main rivals then.

I think our BOM should have been more aware, that's all. A bit of yellow/green trim would have sorted it.

Nesta99
27/11/2018, 8:15 PM
I'm the only one agreeing with you and you get my name wrong!!! Tsk.

Nah I thought Sullen was a better fit! I had better do the emoji now :p

sullanefc
27/11/2018, 8:35 PM
Nah I thought Sullen was a better fit! I had better do the emoji now :p

Oh right. I thought it was an SEN thing tbh.

sbgawa
27/11/2018, 9:04 PM
Can you boys get off the bohs rovers thread please:)

Nesta99
28/11/2018, 1:14 PM
No cause when I was having a rant as a Dundalk fan about Cork, Bohs fans had the chance to explain why their players had green boots, some of them, and how a green jersey become known as jade. Think of what would have been missed without Dundalk/Cork infiltration.....

sbgawa
28/11/2018, 1:20 PM
Fair point , you can stay :)

micls
29/11/2018, 7:51 PM
Our new merchandising guy really has gmdone fantastic work this year. It's gone from the most underutilised and complained about part of the club to the most highly praised.

The new shop renovations look fab and the new display for this Jersey has gone down very well. Good to see off the field stuff being done well. 2745

micls
29/11/2018, 7:52 PM
New keeper shirt also getting a positive response. 2746

onlooker
29/11/2018, 9:18 PM
so no goalkeeper to fill it for the photo?

nigel-harps1954
30/11/2018, 12:20 PM
New Harps away jersey.

2747

marinobohs
30/11/2018, 1:09 PM
Our new merchandising guy really has gmdone fantastic work this year. It's gone from the most underutilised and complained about part of the club to the most highly praised.

The new shop renovations look fab and the new display for this Jersey has gone down very well. Good to see off the field stuff being done well. https://foot.ie/attachment.php?attachmentid=2745&stc=1

cue photo of Dundalk's bigger and better shop :D

ForzaForth
30/11/2018, 1:21 PM
Never worried about the style of Wexford FC kit, but I like the look of this one from our local suppliers, Bodibro.

https://twitter.com/bodibro/status/1068204687688638464/photo/1

SkStu
30/11/2018, 1:33 PM
cue photo of Dundalk's bigger and better shop :D

I thought it was Dundalk's shop!

Ba dum tish!

nigel-harps1954
30/11/2018, 2:51 PM
Harps home for 2019 launched today too.

2749

Martinho II
30/11/2018, 5:19 PM
Harps home for 2019 launched today too.

2749

love that harps jersey must be 20 years since they had a jersey like this!

nigel-harps1954
30/11/2018, 7:55 PM
love that harps jersey must be 20 years since they had a jersey like this!

1997/1998 as far as I can guess since we had one like this. The jersey in question is my favourite ever home shirt too, so to say I'm quite happy with both offerings would be an understatement. Absolutely delighted.

SkStu
30/11/2018, 8:01 PM
That home jersey is a beauty alright. Joma does nice gear.

oriel
30/11/2018, 9:39 PM
The Cork new away top is actually quite smart, I just wouldn't gone with the white part on the front , black and white? Lads. No one has the franchise for a colour but it does remind me of a mid 80's effort Dundalk had but inverse. The top 1/3 was black and white for the rest.

As much as I liked the all red for Dundalk for an away strip, and memories of this when we won the league in Cork in 1991, i do think in current era the red is probably more suited to Cork, so I was surprised to see them go with black as the away colour, especially when Dundalk's most recent away was a mix of grey and black, but again, no one owns colours, free to chose etc.

Pablo Escobar
30/11/2018, 9:53 PM
The Cork new away top is actually quite smart, I just wouldn't gone with the white part on the front , black and white? Lads. No one has the franchise for a colour but it does remind me of a mid 80's effort Dundalk had but inverse. The top 1/3 was black and white for the rest.

As much as I liked the all red for Dundalk for an away strip, and memories of this when we won the league in Cork in 1991, i do think in current era the red is probably more suited to Cork, so I was surprised to see them go with black as the away colour, especially when Dundalk's most recent away was a mix of grey and black, but again, no one owns colours, free to chose etc.
When I saw our new goalkeeper jersey, all I could think of was that it's the same colour as the sky over Dundalk on a clear day. I wish we'd just drop this Dundalk obsession.

EatYerGreens
30/11/2018, 10:16 PM
Never worried about the style of Wexford FC kit, but I like the look of this one from our local suppliers, Bodibro.

https://twitter.com/bodibro/status/1068204687688638464/photo/1

Dear Wexford Youths,

The 1990s called. They'd like their jersey back.

oldyouth
01/12/2018, 6:54 AM
That Wexford one is supposed to be a limited edition training top. You can tell it's not the new jersey because there are only 10 stars on the crest. The new one is supposed to have 56

micls
01/12/2018, 7:39 AM
The Cork new away top is actually quite smart, I just wouldn't gone with the white part on the front , black and white? Lads. No one has the franchise for a colour but it does remind me of a mid 80's effort Dundalk had but inverse. The top 1/3 was black and white for the rest.

As much as I liked the all red for Dundalk for an away strip, and memories of this when we won the league in Cork in 1991, i do think in current era the red is probably more suited to Cork, so I was surprised to see them go with black as the away colour, especially when Dundalk's most recent away was a mix of grey and black, but again, no one owns colours, free to chose etc.

Haha, it reminds you of a Jersey from 30 years ago that was actually the opposite.

You guys are hilarious.

If you guys don't fancy a red away because it reminds you too much of us, fair enough. It would make me think more of Pat's and Shels than going to some of our away kits, but whatever floats ye're boat.

The back to black kit sold more pre orders than any kit previously and is flying off the shelves. So I'd say its fair to say the majority don't see or care about it being like a dundalk away shirt.

It looks better in person than in the original photo, but not sure I'll buy it. Not a big fan of the design.

GCdfc
01/12/2018, 10:18 AM
The back to black kit sold more pre orders than any kit previously and is flying off the shelves.

Even better than the Bohs Bob Marley jersey?

Maybe jersey sales are this years 4th biggest budget in the league....

Nesta99
01/12/2018, 1:31 PM
The Cork new away top is actually quite smart, I just wouldn't gone with the white part on the front , black and white? Lads. No one has the franchise for a colour but it does remind me of a mid 80's effort Dundalk had but inverse. The top 1/3 was black and white for the rest.

As much as I liked the all red for Dundalk for an away strip, and memories of this when we won the league in Cork in 1991, i do think in current era the red is probably more suited to Cork, so I was surprised to see them go with black as the away colour, especially when Dundalk's most recent away was a mix of grey and black, but again, no one owns colours, free to chose etc.

Careful now!!........

micls
01/12/2018, 2:48 PM
Even better than the Bohs Bob Marley jersey?

Maybe jersey sales are this years 4th biggest budget in the league....

I should have been clearer, any of Our previous kits! Can't imagine it reached Bob maryley/not Bob Marley levels.

Martinho II
01/12/2018, 4:17 PM
1997/1998 as far as I can guess since we had one like this. The jersey in question is my favourite ever home shirt too, so to say I'm quite happy with both offerings would be an understatement. Absolutely delighted.

yeah correct nigel!

mcgonigle
01/12/2018, 8:54 PM
Lads can we put this to bed please. It doesn't matter what team Corks new jersey might resemble. It'll be unmistakably Cork when the whistle blows and hoofing commences....