Kits 2019

[Northsider]

That's exactly what I was wondering too.

Unless people ask for a refund...and how will they know to ask for one?

A friend in London ordered one, and got an email from the club asking if he wants a refund.

[osarusan]

A friend in London ordered one, and got an email from the club asking if he wants a refund.

That's good to know....could be some bad publicity otherwise.

[nigel-harps1954]

I wonder what will be the next thing we try to sell that isn't ours?

Probably try to sell naming rights to Dalymount. The only thing they've not sold there yet.

[Dalymountrower]

Probably try to sell naming rights to Dalymount. The only thing they've not sold there yet.

Believe me, we tried that before.

[Jack B]

This whole saga has been absolutely hilarious. What a league this is. What a brand Bohs have become.

[Northsider]

That's good to know....could be some bad publicity otherwise.

It appears we operate by the "no such thing as bad publicity" philosophy.

AGM tomorrow night should be a hoot.

[LOI101]

I know it's only 10% of profits (which may not amount to much) but should Bohs be giving away money? Probably have one of the lowest budgets in the premier division

[RathfarnhamHoop]

Who was it that was saying that Bohs couldn't possibly be so stupid as to sell a shirt with an image they didn't have the proper rights to on it again?

[sbgawa]

I hope they got the rights from SRFC Ultras for use of the new image.


The ultras won't be happy ....although the idea of a bunch of Bohs fans going around wearing the Ultras logo might appeal to them

[Jack B]

Who was it that was saying that Bohs couldn't possibly be so stupid as to sell a shirt with an image they didn't have the proper rights to on it again?

Anyone that doubts Bohs have had a tremendous season with faultless marketing ploys is simply bitter and obsessed...and above them in the table.

[marinobohs]

True, it would look much better just plain.
Sh1t jersey either way 😀 hopefully no damage done as no jerseys were ever supplied. Board didn't come out looking good but on the upside we got loads of free publicity.

[ger121]

“The Bohs have got no money, we got a box of Jerseys”

[sbgawa]

Its a classic #greatestleagueintheworld moment but no one will see the publicity around the climb down so all the positive stuff around the publicity is still positive for Bohs.
On balance the board look a bit like eejits for approving it without getting proper legal advice but on a scale of 1-10 of daft things that bring the league into disrepute this is strictly in the 1 or 2 range with 10 being Athlone betting scandals and Bray North Korea at around 8

[joey B]

Its a classic #greatestleagueintheworld moment but no one will see the publicity around the climb down so all the positive stuff around the publicity is still positive for Bohs.
On balance the board look a bit like eejits for approving it without getting proper legal advice but on a scale of 1-10 of daft things that bring the league into disrepute this is strictly in the 1 or 2 range with 10 being Athlone betting scandals and Bray North Korea at around 8

Be a good thread that, what is you're clubs #greatestleagueintheworld moment!!!!!

[sbgawa]

super idea, stick it up there , i don't want to steal your idea

[marinobohs]

Its a classic #greatestleagueintheworld moment but no one will see the publicity around the climb down so all the positive stuff around the publicity is still positive for Bohs.
On balance the board look a bit like eejits for approving it without getting proper legal advice but on a scale of 1-10 of daft things that bring the league into disrepute this is strictly in the 1 or 2 range with 10 being Athlone betting scandals and Bray North Korea at around 8

Not even in Bohs top 5 screw ups never mind the League 😁
Embarrassing for the Board - just as well none were actually sold ! Will be interesting to see how many of the presale seek refunds and how many take the new (equally awful 😁) shirt

[Partizan]

Not even in Bohs top 5 screw ups never mind the League ��
Embarrassing for the Board - just as well none were actually sold ! Will be interesting to see how many of the presale seek refunds and how many take the new (equally awful ��) shirt

Also embarassing for the League.

The Big Pub.

[Mr_Parker]

Didn't last long ;)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrPkKO8X0AEXKog.jpg

A questionable symbol choice. I wonder what UEFA etc might think of it?

[TonyD]

To answer your first question, the answer is yes there are oodles of fans, so much so that every size is now sold out on the website. Bohs will be making a pretty penny out of this no matter how hard you find it to believe. It was a marketing masterstroke.

Also, the image on the jersey is not of Bob Marley but a Rastafarian individual (an image bought from a website). The new board at Bohs are very savvy with this type of thing and you would be deluded to think they did not check to see if they would be in any way shape or form open from a legal perspective. But look, jealously was always going to creep into this from other clubs (particularly Dublin) so keep hoping there's going to be legal action against Bohs, you may be waiting a while!


The Pats obsession with Bohs continues. If it isn't Dodge mouthing on twitter talking about our run or where we finished in the league relative to Pats, it's talking about our jersey.
The jersey has sold more than our home and away combined for the last 2 years. So how won't we do well out of it? Will it break the internet and sell millions, meaning we can buy Dalyer and redevelop it outright and be able to compete with Dundalk? No!
Will it be the best selling jersey in the league? Most definitely. It looks good too.

Think Pats at this stage are just desperate to create a rivalry with someone. Bohs have Rovers and Shels ahead of Pats. Rovers have us and possibly a few teams at the top. Pats just sitting there trying to be noticed. Simmer down

I don't know which one of these responses is funnier in hindsight, but then I'm just deluded and obsessed

[ger121]

but then I'm just deluded and obsessed

You said it buddy!

[TonyD]

You said it buddy!

Did no one ever tell you to stop digging when you're in a hole ?��

[Dalymountrower]

The Marley estate have been very litigious 're Bob's image rights.Took Wal-Mart and Target on in the states and won big damages.Dont think that jersey will ever go into production with the BM image.

Very fortunate to have received the cease and desist before the jersey went into production. Predictable and embarrassing after a relatively good season on and off the pitch

[Ezeikial]

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Can we still go ahead with this jersey?

Maybe we can pay Bohs a commission for their customers who wish to transfer their orders from Bob to Jim

[Shearer]

Is the colour scheme slightly lighter or is just the photos being different?
The first one has a kind of Jamaican colour scheme while the newer one appears to be Cameroonian?
Or am I gone mad.

[marinobohs]

Is the colour scheme slightly lighter or is just the photos being different?
The first one has a kind of Jamaican colour scheme while the newer one appears to be Cameroonian?
Or am I gone mad.

I think you may be taking it way way too seriously 😳 apparently the only change is the fist replacing Bob Marley

[White Horse]

A questionable symbol choice. I wonder what UEFA etc might think of it?

They don't appreciate political symbols and Bohs statement confirms that it is political.

[pineapple stu]

It would be hilarious if Bohs had to pull the jersey to replace the one that they had to pull in the first place.

[sbgawa]

They don't appreciate political symbols and Bohs statement confirms that it is political.

At the risk of defending the Bozo's how is it political ?
A clenched fist is emblematic of black power or solidarity but not exclusivly so, it could be just a clenched fist of determination. think they should be ok.

[Dalymountrower]

They don't appreciate political symbols and Bohs statement confirms that it is political.

Hardly in the Poppy category though?

[White Horse]

At the risk of defending the Bozo's how is it political ?
A clenched fist is emblematic of black power or solidarity but not exclusivly so, it could be just a clenched fist of determination. think they should be ok.

Bohs claim the symbol represents "resistance". They will struggle to convince UEFA that that is not political.

[Philosophizer]

Bohs will be grand, it's just an image in the likeness of a clenched fist...

[Park_Lane]

Rumour has it this image just missed out....

[ToberonaTornado]

Bohs will be grand, it's just an image in the likeness of a clenched fist...

Aye,it's even an emoji for feck sake,like who can claim image rights on the fist?
Bohs will end up with a snowflake on that shirt way things are going! :D

[sbgawa]

The gay pride colours and the fist are an unusual combo but i'm all for inclusion

[Mr_Parker]

They don't appreciate political symbols and Bohs statement confirms that it is political.

I did a bit of checking and I think it might be ok. The Fare network who work with UEFA have a list of symbols that might be questioned. In general they relate to those displayed by fans, but it may be a good reference point for team kit too. See page 41.

http://www.farenet.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Signs-and-Symbols-guide-for-European-football_2016-2.pdf

[SkStu]

Rumour has it this image just missed out....

Now that I think about it, a picture of Roddy's noggin would have been a guaranteed unit shifter. They still chant his name in Lisbon from his glory nights as a player, not to mention his fan club in Malta.

Missed opportunity.

[colonelwest]

Can we still go ahead with this jersey?

Maybe we can pay Bohs a commission for their customers who wish to transfer their orders from Bob to Jim

That's my quick handiwork, I'll take a flat 10% off the top and won't send a cease and desist, Jim is a freeman of the land and doesn't recognise the soulless minions of orthodoxy running the country and the legal system so I'll take his cut as well!
;)

[EatYerGreens]

It would be hilarious if Bohs had to pull the jersey to replace the one that they had to pull in the first place.

Apparently their Board are all very savvy types, so there's just no way something like that could ever happen...

You're just bitter and jealous to even suggest it.

[EatYerGreens]

I for one am stunned that Bohs have had to pull this jersey over image rights. Someone should really have said something earlier :


I just hope they thought about and sorted image rights. Otherwise, they could find the Bob Marley Estate delivers them a very hefty bill after they've done all the hard work in selling (and spending the income from) lots of these shirts. They're using his 'brand' to sell a shirt, so they should really be paying his estate/family for that right.

I'm sure that if they had then Bohs fans (and others) would have taken that risk seriously :


Are Bohs gonna say it's not Marley or did they have approval? You'd think O'Neills would have done their homework at least and wouldn't print something like that without a legal opinion anyway


I'm sure it's all been planned to avoid any possible legal issues.


i'm sure they have a legal team who's looked into this.


Wow the passive bitterness on here is palpable. It's going to be the biggest selling LOI jersey ever . Get over it.I haven't seen anywhere online or in print where Bohs have released a statement saying they have a picture of Bob Marley on the jersey. It could plausibly be kept in club shop for years to come and still sell well each year. Sales have come in from the 4 corners of the globe. The latest straw clutcher is stating that it's against the laws of the game. Who cares . It will still sell and be stocked in the shop. I don't think Joey in Canada is worried in the slightest if Bohs do or don't wear it 4 times next season.
It's brought massive PR to Bohs and also by default the league.Its the sort of brave out of the box thinking that the league needs as a whole . I've just order 2000 Rasta wigs to sell on the North Circular Rd


Stop me when I start telling lies so micls and quote me the press release where Bohs as a club have said anything anywhere about the image referencing it to being Bob Marley. For a judge to fall for any nonsense it has to get to a court.
This won't as ONeills are involved, a company with 800 staff and offices in multiple locations. They have also been down this road before with Addidas and won so their legal dept will have done their homework. Unless you are suggesting that such a company would on a whim from a part time football club leave themselves wide open to having their brand dragged through the courts..
Oh by the way, BFC are not obligated to tell the masses on various fora the intimate details of the commercial contracts
How much would that PR cost an average LOI club .
Stay jealous lads


We're talking about a very very hypothetical situation here, folks. No need to get worked up. I find it v hard to believe that Bohs and especially O'Neills would be retarded enough to leaving themselves open to litigation from the Marley estate.
Maybe we should park the whole debate about image rights until it actually becomes an issue.


That's exactly what i mean. Given that they've been through the ringer recently, and O'Neills had a copywright case with adidas a few years ago too, the chances of both of them leaving themselves open on this must be very small.


In fairness we're on a football forum. Fans are emotional creatures. There will inevitably be bitterness, jealousy and begrudgery, no matter how much people pretend to rise above it.


so, massive sales for an away jerseys. Huge publicity for the club and our sponsors across the world and no suggestion of any adverse legal action. What's not to like ?


Also, the image on the jersey is not of Bob Marley but a Rastafarian individual (an image bought from a website). The new board at Bohs are very savvy with this type of thing and you would be deluded to think they did not check to see if they would be in any way shape or form open from a legal perspective. But look, jealously was always going to creep into this from other clubs (particularly Dublin) so keep hoping there's going to be legal action against Bohs, you may be waiting a while!


The Pats obsession with Bohs continues. If it isn't Dodge mouthing on twitter talking about our run or where we finished in the league relative to Pats, it's talking about our jersey.
The jersey has sold more than our home and away combined for the last 2 years. So how won't we do well out of it? Will it break the internet and sell millions, meaning we can buy Dalyer and redevelop it outright and be able to compete with Dundalk? No!
Will it be the best selling jersey in the league? Most definitely. It looks good too.


So far nothing, unless massive publicity for the club, sold out first run and preorders for more than the club can supply is your idea of 'going wrong' :rolleyes: brilliant promotional idea that has delivered on every front for the club.

Perhaps people in the LOI are so used to bad news that when something good or innovative comes along people immediately look for the (possible) down side.Or maybe the LOI fraternity are just a bunch of whingey old gits :cool:


I don't know why anyone would pour scorn on this, certainly in terms of raising profile for Bohs - it has done as was hoped and some. Of course people were going to ask about image rights simply as across the league as we are not renowned for covering all bases and things not backfiring but once there was explination of things being covered then thats it. Great job Bohs for turning such a tenuous connection to a muic icon in to one of if not the best publicity stunts in modern league history.

As I stated before, how anyone could give a club that sold the same piece of land twice to two different people the benefit of the doubt on this is worrying. Apparently these are changed times and the very savvy current Board learned from that previous legal ****-up

Huge Kudos to Dalymountrower for seeming to be the only Bohs supporter on here who saw this coming from the very start :


The Marley estate have been very litigious 're Bob's image rights.Took Wal-Mart and Target on in the states and won big damages. Dont think that jersey will ever go into production with the BM image.

The Greatest League in the World has just out-greatest itself, and without a ball even being kicked ! God I love the League of Ireland :D

[Philosophizer]

15 quotes. That's gotta be a record.

[SkStu]

I for one am stunned that Bohs have had to pull this jersey over image rights. Someone should really have said something earlier :



I'm sure that if they had then Bohs fans (and others) would have taken that risk seriously :

As I stated before, how anyone could give a club that sold the same piece of land twice to two different people the benefit of the doubt on this is worrying. Apparently these are changed times and the very savvy current Board learned from that previous legal ****-up

Huge Kudos to Dalymountrower for seeming to be the only Bohs supporter on here who saw this coming from the very start :

The Greatest League in the World has just out-greatest itself, and without a ball even being kicked ! God I love the League of Ireland :D

While yourself and Dalymountrower were correct in hindsight, there are some important words in the media release that indicate this wasn't same old same old.


Bohemian Football Club acted in good faith and followed the correct process when purchasing the licence for this image via a world-leading third-party photo licensing company. However, the Bob Marley representative agency has informed us that this company did not have the right to grant any such licence for this image. We are dealing with this separately.

I get people will want to get their jollies off us - and have at it as far as I'm concerned, its funny - but it sounds from the above that the club was somewhat shafted by the licensing company. The reason people gave the benefit of the doubt is because it is a completely different board - one that does an honest and, to date, very effective job on a mostly voluntary basis. Vastly different to the charlatans who used to wine and dine themselves and others to sell off our ground without doing a jot of due diligence.

[pineapple stu]

I get people will want to get their jollies off us - and have at it as far as I'm concerned, its funny - but it sounds from the above that the club was somewhat shafted by the licensing company.
I don't know. You can buy photos through a site like SportsFile, say - but that doesn't give you carte blanch image rights.

If Bohs didn't tell the licencing company what they were buying the image for - and there'd be no real need to necessarily - then it's hardly the image company's fault.

[Nesta99]

I for one am stunned that Bohs have had to pull this jersey over image rights. Someone should really have said something earlier :



I'm sure that if they had then Bohs fans (and others) would have taken that risk seriously :


As I stated before, how anyone could give a club that sold the same piece of land twice to two different people the benefit of the doubt on this is worrying. Apparently these are changed times and the very savvy current Board learned from that previous legal ****-up

Huge Kudos to Dalymountrower for seeming to be the only Bohs supporter on here who saw this coming from the very start :



The Greatest League in the World has just out-greatest itself, and without a ball even being kicked ! God I love the League of Ireland :D

and The Greatest Gloat in the World all in one thread!! What a close season and its not 2 days old...

[SkStu]

I don't know. You can buy photos through a site like SportsFile, say - but that doesn't give you carte blanch image rights.

If Bohs didn't tell the licencing company what they were buying the image for - and there'd be no real need to necessarily - then it's hardly the image company's fault.

It could be that - for sure - but we don't know. It could as plausibly be accidental misrepresentation from the licensing company based on the words of the media release.

[pineapple stu]

It could, sure.

But history has taught us not to be believing Bohs on this

[SkStu]

It could, sure.

But history has taught us not to be believing Bohs on this

History has not been kind to many clubs for many reasons!

But things change. That is where I am prepared to give some credit to our current board than previous versions.

Still really feckin embarrassing though.

[pineapple stu]

The more things change in the LoI, the more they stay the same.

It's why we love it.

(Seriously, only a Bohs fan would try blame the picture company. This is Bohs' fault entirely; everyone here who's not a Bohs fan could spot the really obvious issue straight away)

[SkStu]

Ultimately it is Bohs fault. Sorry if I suggested otherwise - I wasn't trying to lay the blame entirely at the other party. I just think that it is mitigated somewhat if they were misinformed by the licensing company about the scope of the license.

[EatYerGreens]

It could be that - for sure - but we don't know. It could as plausibly be accidental misrepresentation from the licensing company based on the words of the media release.

Or it could just be deliberately worded that way by the club to shift the blame and stop themselves looking like a bunch of fcukwits.

At this stage, I know which option I'd put money on ;)

[EatYerGreens]

15 quotes. That's gotta be a record.

And pride of place for you featuring in a third of them ;)