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Philosophizer
06/08/2018, 6:59 PM
Looked to be a really poor crowd at it. Amazing that even in a national semi final the people of Cobh still don't come out to support the side.
Thought the same myself.
sbgawa
06/08/2018, 7:00 PM
Is it a toss for home draw ?
Philosophizer
06/08/2018, 7:03 PM
But in fairness their population is less than 13000, so even if 10% of the town came to the ground (which is almost unheard of) they'd only have 1300.
Cobh is just to small to realistically ever have decent attendances.
placid casual
06/08/2018, 7:32 PM
In fairness to dalk, the heat in Cobh can be something terrible at times. It once hit 20' degees I'm told..
brendy_éire
06/08/2018, 9:18 PM
Is it a toss for home draw ?
Maybe, officially. In reality, I think it's agreed between the clubs, the FAI and TV channel.
The final was meant to be 15th September. Institute are playing in the Brandywell that day.
It's been announced that the final is now 16th.
You can draw conclusions from that, I'd guess.
redarmyfaction
06/08/2018, 9:48 PM
Maybe, officially. In reality, I think it's agreed between the clubs, the FAI and TV channel.
The final was meant to be 15th September. Institute are playing in the Brandywell that day.
It's been announced that the final is now 16th.
You can draw conclusions from that, I'd guess.
Are Tute playing all their home games in the Brandywell?, I seem to remember they had an issue with flooding.
brendy_éire
06/08/2018, 10:05 PM
Are Tute playing all their home games in the Brandywell?, I seem to remember they had an issue with flooding.
Yep. They'll never go back to Riverside, it seems.
pineapple stu
07/08/2018, 6:36 AM
The Cobh goal is here (http://www.extratime.ie/articles/21479/watch-chris-hull-scores-to-put-cobh-ramblers-into-a-historic-first-national-final/).
Don't see much of the ground, but looks a bigger crowd than usual in the terrace anyway.
Some city fans there said 800ish, which is multiples of their normal crowd in fairness.
Still a bit of anamosity towards the club but hopefully this puts the hard work of the players and management into light....
Anyone have an idea on when the venue will be decided?
Philosophizer
07/08/2018, 9:33 AM
Still a bit of anamosity towards the club but hopefully this puts the hard work of the players and management into light....
Anomosity toward the club for what?? i know they borrowed lots of mone they didn't have back in the day, but sure almost every club did that at least once...
There's a disconnect between the club and the locals, many have started following Cobh wanderers instead. Loads of mistakes along the way and people in charge that have annoyed people.
marty
07/08/2018, 11:58 AM
Anomosity toward the club for what?? i know they borrowed lots of mone they didn't have back in the day, but sure almost every club did that at least once...
For years the club was viewed as clanish and when it went bust a lot of people got satisfaction from it. It still has not gained back the support but a national final should help.
Wanderers will always have support as most are local players which is important in a small town.
Martinho II
07/08/2018, 3:34 PM
For years the club was viewed as clanish and when it went bust a lot of people got satisfaction from it. It still has not gained back the support but a national final should help.
Wanderers will always have support as most are local players which is important in a small town.
I was at the game in 07 when Cobh Ramblers brought down a serious crowd to Athlone for their promotion party. It was from end of 08 onwards that things badly went wrong for them. Delighted for Stephen Henderson and Cobh. I have no problems with them at all as they treated us well on our last visit a few months ago.
Philosophizer
07/08/2018, 3:52 PM
There's a disconnect between the club and the locals, many have started following Cobh wanderers instead. Loads of mistakes along the way and people in charge that have annoyed people.
What a shame. In a town as tiny as Cobh you haven't a hope of reaching your potential if that type of nonsense is going on. With the whole town right behind the team you've got a chance, and even then it can be a real struggle at times. Look at Sligo - a town of only 20k or so but they've a great connection with the local community and they still struggle sometimes.
Comic Book Guy
07/08/2018, 5:13 PM
Would have said the crowd was around 1100 myself, though the atmosphere was like the real old days.
The other posters are spot on about the disconnect there but to be honest a lot of the crap that went on was 10 years ago or longer. It is true that the club has lost a generation of fans but on the other hand so called football people in the town are knocking the club no matter what they do. I hope that we can build on this now on and off the pitch.
Agreed..... The sun is reporting that by end of week the venue and time should be known. Derry have the new ground so I'd imagine would be favourites for aesthetic reasons but you never know. Would love a two leg affair myself. Should Rams get to host it I'd imagine it would come close to selling out.
Thought the same myself.
So estimated of 800 to 1000 at Cobh?
What was the Sligo vs Derry attendance on Monday anyone!
ger121
08/08/2018, 11:48 AM
So estimated of 800 to 1000 at Cobh?
What was the Sligo vs Derry attendance on Monday anyone!
Voluntary
Martinho II
08/08/2018, 3:43 PM
Agreed..... The sun is reporting that by end of week the venue and time should be known. Derry have the new ground so I'd imagine would be favourites for aesthetic reasons but you never know. Would love a two leg affair myself. Should Rams get to host it I'd imagine it would come close to selling out.
read in paper today in sun that derry has the most seats out of the two grounds but cobh has the bigger capacity!
A coin toss is what will probably decide it unless the two teams could agree to play it in a neutral venue. Should all be sorted by end of week.
Coin toss is happening next Tuesday night.
Nah Nah Nah Nah
08/08/2018, 8:39 PM
So estimated of 800 to 1000 at Cobh?
What was the Sligo vs Derry attendance on Monday anyone!
1,453
Martinho II
09/08/2018, 3:40 PM
Coin toss is happening next Tuesday night.
isnt there a FAI meeting down in Cork that night?
EatYerGreens
09/08/2018, 4:23 PM
isnt there a FAI meeting down in Cork that night?
Yip - in Cobh too. Who knows what influence that will have on the special coin toss :D
Is there a special type of coin used by the FAI?
EatYerGreens
12/08/2018, 10:49 PM
Is there a special type of coin used by the FAI?
Delaney has a special one with two heads on it.
Some might say two faces, even.
Delaney has a special one with two heads on it.
Some might say two faces, even.
Great man to buy a round for everyone!
disgruntled
13/08/2018, 3:31 PM
Is there a special type of coin used by the FAI?
Its like a loaded dice.
Always comes up with Delaneys head showing :o
EatYerGreens
14/08/2018, 11:15 AM
Its like a loaded dice.
Always comes up with Delaneys head showing :o
He has a different one to toss when deciding who'll do the difficult press interviews.
Always comes up with Fran Gavin's face on.
EatYerGreens
14/08/2018, 11:23 AM
Anyone know when the LC location dreaw is taking place?
brendy_éire
14/08/2018, 3:25 PM
Anyone know when the LC location dreaw is taking place?
In St. Colman's at quarter to 6 this afternoon.
Maybe it's a requirement, but Derry are sending someone to it, which seems utterly needless.
El-Pietro
14/08/2018, 4:44 PM
In St. Colman's at quarter to 6 this afternoon.
Maybe it's a requirement, but Derry are sending someone to it, which seems utterly needless.
Sounds like its a real draw then. Thats positive.
nigel-harps1954
14/08/2018, 5:05 PM
Final in Derry. Cobh had the draw live on their Facebook.
NeverFeltBetter
14/08/2018, 5:58 PM
Considering how far apart the two teams are, is there really no neutral venue that could be found?
pineapple stu
14/08/2018, 6:08 PM
A neutral venue would surely suit neither club, not both?
The League Cup final was home/away once upon a time
NeverFeltBetter
14/08/2018, 6:15 PM
Would 50:50 between the clubs (or as close to it as possible) not be better than 100:0? I mean, if no one has any objections to a coin flip, then fair enough. Very hard on Cobh though.
pineapple stu
14/08/2018, 6:17 PM
Athlone is 50/50; I can't see that suiting either.
Having it in Dublin would halve the crowd I'd say.
nigel-harps1954
14/08/2018, 6:24 PM
The only way you're going to see a crowd at a League Cup final is if one of the teams are at home.
Assume the gate is still split same as the FAI Cup, so a 2,500+ crowd in Derry would at least cover some of the expenses of Cobh, and they're going to get a few quid for getting to the final too (something in the region of €8k-€10k?)
Either way, St Colman's Park wouldn't really be the most suitable cup final venue for TV purposes mostly.
Makes sense to hold it in Derry.
total hoofball
14/08/2018, 6:47 PM
Cobh also unluckily lost out to Derry in a draw for home advantage for their Setanta Cup Play-off at the end of the 2007 season
https://foot.ie/threads/76052-Setanta-Cup-Playoff
Martinho II
14/08/2018, 6:52 PM
Cobh also unluckily lost out to Derry in a draw for home advantage for their Setanta Cup Play-off at the end of the 2007 season
https://foot.ie/threads/76052-Setanta-Cup-Playoff
dont remember this at all remind me how did Cobh be in this playoff in the first place?
pineapple stu
14/08/2018, 6:59 PM
I think it was a one-off sop to the lower clubs to ensure they voted for the league reorganisation bull**** at the end of the 2006 season.
Did Derry beat them 5-0 or something?
Comic Book Guy
14/08/2018, 8:08 PM
I think it was a one-off sop to the lower clubs to ensure they voted for the league reorganisation bull**** at the end of the 2006 season.
Did Derry beat them 5-0 or something?
2-1, I think our lads were on the **** most of the week beforehand.
pineapple stu
14/08/2018, 8:43 PM
Fairy nuff.
Was there a promotion/relegation play-off where Derry thumped ye so? Or am I just completely imagining things?
Comic Book Guy
14/08/2018, 8:58 PM
Fairy nuff.
Was there a promotion/relegation play-off where Derry thumped ye so? Or am I just completely imagining things?
Think it was Bohs around late 90's, lost 0-5 at home, all I remember is our keeper picking up a ball, then dropped it so that he could thump one of the Bohs forwards and swiftly got a deserved red:eek:
oriel
14/08/2018, 10:20 PM
I was in Cobh today as I’m on a family holiday down in Cork, and I heard the news of the final.
I was disappointed Cobh didn’t get the chance to host it, would have been a great occasion for the town, have to say it’s a lovely spot, first time I’ve been.
oriel
14/08/2018, 10:24 PM
Think it was Bohs around late 90's, lost 0-5 at home, all I remember is our keeper picking up a ball, then dropped it so that he could thump one of the Bohs forwards and swiftly got a deserved red:eek:
Further on the Cobh angle, that game was May 1999. Dont ask why I remember !
EatYerGreens
15/08/2018, 12:12 PM
The only way you're going to see a crowd at a League Cup final is if one of the teams are at home.
Assume the gate is still split same as the FAI Cup, so a 2,500+ crowd in Derry would at least cover some of the expenses of Cobh, and they're going to get a few quid for getting to the final too (something in the region of €8k-€10k?)
Either way, St Colman's Park wouldn't really be the most suitable cup final venue for TV purposes mostly.
Makes sense to hold it in Derry.
Agree with all of this.
The League Cup just isn't big or attractive enough to hold it in a neutral venue. Especially when there's a big disparity in the teams involved, which would influence numbers willing to travel. Having it in Athlone or Longford may be technically half-way, but would probably draw a crap crowd form both sets of fans.
osarusan
15/08/2018, 12:21 PM
Tough travel-wise for Cobh, but they will get the same split of a much bigger gate, so it is probably worth it.
Pablo Escobar
15/08/2018, 1:20 PM
Tough travel-wise for Cobh, but they will get the same split of a much bigger gate, so it is probably worth it.
I'm not so sure. They'd probably come out of the woodwork for a home cup final. Plus, you probably see relatively good interest from Cork City fans too who would see it as a chance to take in a final on their door step with good transport links to Cobh.
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