Republic of Ireland V Denmark - Tue, 14 November 2017 World Cup 2018 Play Off 2nd Leg

[Closed Account 2]

Genuinely feel bad for Wales, they would have given a better account of themselves

[KrisLetang]

Totally a different team without Coleman. We just are not deep enough for him to miss significant time. Wales have to be ruing Cardiff. They would have had a much better chance in retrospect. Sorry, Wales!

[KrisLetang]

Tricky: ;)
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[TonyD]

Felt sorry for McClean there.

Ah here, Dunphy. Denmark are a good side now. They were rubbish on Saturday according to him.

[osarusan]

Felt sorry for McClean there.

Me too, and although Tony O'D isn't liked much on here, I thought he did well to just let him leave the interview when he did.

[Closed Account 2]

In the last 10 years the only times the Danes have scored more than 4 have been against Malta and lichtenstein

[KrisLetang]

Ah here, Dunphy. Denmark are a good side now. They were rubbish on Saturday according to him.

Isn't pundit the easiest job in the world? Talk about all the angles of things in life you would never have the nuts to play yourself or call out before you watched it..

[mark12345]

We were favourites to top the group at one stage. What happened?

Glad you brought that up. What happened was four squandered points against Austria and Georgia, all O'Neill's fault. And we would only have needed a draw versus Serbia. I said the draw against Austria would come back to haunt us. Not all O'Neill's fault however. When all you do is hoof the ball game after game you have no business at the big show. Ireland and N. Ireland, try to learn some lessons from Iceland

[brine3]

Sorry Wales!?? Didn't they break our captain's leg?

Denmark have spent 15 years under Morten Olsen developing a common system and tactical approach at all levels. They have the same population as us and their players play at a similar level. Some even in the Danish and Norwegian league. But they have a plan. They know how to pass.

We have an FAI with no national development plan and an international team that lurches from one match to the next, relying only on passion and desire.

Everything wrong with Irish football got exposed tonight. We can continue to ignore it, or we can use this as an opportunity to do something about it.

[geysir]

In the last 10 years the only times the Danes have scored more than 4 have been against Malta and lichtenstein

How illuminating. Are we now worse than Malta and Lichtenstein? I knew things were bad but thank you for putting Ireland where they belong in Europe, at the bottom. That really helps me have an overall perspective on this evening's proceedings.

[tricky_colour]

if you think about it though, Eriksen is by far the best player on either side and he is the one putting his team through. Sometimes you need class, vim and vigor and heart are not enough. We just don't have enough skill.


He is some player, I just checked and Denmark are 100-1 for the World Cup seems generous given their performance to night, on their day they
are quite something.

Eriksen started his career at Middelfart, he certainly blew us away tonight.

[Closed Account 2]

How illuminating. Are we now worse than Malta and Lichtenstein? I knew things were bad but thank you for putting Ireland where they belong in Europe, at the bottom. That really helps me have an overall perspective on this evening's proceedings.

Glad you found it illuminating, it's always nice to get a lovely post like that from you, it makes me feel so special.

[KrisLetang]

We all know what needs to happen and the question is posed right here.
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[tricky_colour]

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[TonyD]

Genuinely feel bad for Wales, they would have given a better account of themselves

They had their chance. They lost at home to us, so didn't deserve o go further. Same as Ireland ultimately.

[Jogobonito]

We would have stunk out the World Cup anyway....where's the ambition in how we play?...we don't have to play tiki taka but something that's aggressive,high tempo yet utilises a modicum of skill

[Fixer82]

We gifted them 3 goals tonight. I didn’t see the point in taking Meyler, our captain, off. We needed to go for it so the gamble had to be taken but it should have been Long and Hoolahan for Hendrick/Christie and Ward for me. But there ya go, hindsight is 20/20

[ccfcman]

At least this will give the FAI plenty of scope to focus on League of Ireland involvement in Europe next summer ...

[KrisLetang]

We never ever have our full lineup in. And never will I suppose, If McCarthy is supposed to be our top choice for starter.

[Closed Account 2]

The Danish manager said he was baffled by our formation, said we left an amazing amount of space in midfield, the polar opposite of the game in Denmark. I think he may have even said, "thanks very much for giving us so much space" in the interview.

[BonnieShels]

Whatever about it being a shambles of an evening...

McGeady for Meyler is a substitution i will never understand.

I'm just despondent after that.

[KrisLetang]

The Danish manager said he was baffled by our formation, said we left an amazing amount of space in midfield, the polar opposite of the game in Denmark. I think he may have even said, "thanks very much for giving us so much space" in the interview.

Why would he want to rub it in after he won? Just STFU and go home.

[the doc]

Comeback Mr Trapattoni, all is forgiven.

[KrisLetang]

Classy Irish fans:

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/930561744526864384

[TrapAPony]

Comeback Mr Trapattoni, all is forgiven.

After the 6-1 home loss to Germany and the worst tournament performances we ever had. You're on your own there buddy.

[bennocelt]

^Christ, I'll be nearly 40 then. Was 13 in 2002 :(

Christ Boovidge, some of us are 40 now!!! :o

[KrisLetang]

40 is the new 20 Ben. I hope.

[RiffRaff]

I think this is the lowest point I remember for the Ireland side in my 50 plus years. And we have had some bad ones. Denmark are a bang average side with a very good midfielder, not a world class one. They are certainly not in the same league as the Denmark team that took us apart twice in the 80's. Since Brian Kerr we have had a succession of managers who instil lack of belief into the squad and encourage the squad to defend deep and try and nick a goal, then hang on for dear life. The neutrals who watched Saturdays game must have been praying we didn't make it, imagine having to watch that style played out on world cup TV for 90 minutes. My suggestion is forget the Euros, get rid of the veterans and try and build with younger players, and yes, even Eircom league players if they do the business in European club competition. We are going nowhere with this O'Neill. Get the other one or Kenny.

[seanfhear]

It Probably could have gone a bit better ........

[KrisLetang]

It Probably could have gone a bit better ........

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?

[tricky_colour]

Their plan worked, they let us score to trick us into believing we could play football and we fell apart at that seams.

[Nugget]

Will people stop saying Eriksen isn't world class. He's absolutely world class.

[Closed Account 2]

After the 6-1 home loss to Germany and the worst tournament performances we ever had. You're on your own there buddy.

Well as bad as losing 6-1 at home to Germany is, I think tonight is worse. The Germans had world class players everywhere, Denmark aren't a million miles above us in terms of quality.

[TrapAPony]

Well as bad as losing 6-1 at home to Germany is, I think tonight is worse. The Germans had world class players everywhere, Denmark aren't a million miles above us in terms of quality.

Of course tonight is worse and also because of what was at stake. It was probably the worst in my memory, outdoing the 5-2 loss in Cyprus when Stan was in charge.

[mark12345]

At least this will give the FAI plenty of scope to focus on League of Ireland involvement in Europe next summer ...

Yeah, and I'm sure they just can't wait to focus all their attentions there.

[Kingdom]

Sorry Wales!?? Didn't they break our captains leg?

We can't take the holy ground here on matters like that.
We have a genuine scumbag in our team who is constantly trying to injure opponents. Its not even subtle anymore. Allen.v Wales Paulsen tonight. Bentnder tonight. Sisco tonight. Thats not.leadership its cowardice. The sooner someone breaks him up and he can see how reckless he's been, the better.

[Kingdom]

Denmark have spent 15 years under Morten Olsen developing a common system and tactical approach at all levels. They have the same population as us and their players play at a similar level. Some even in the Danish and Norwegian league. But they have a plan. They know how to pass.

We have an FAI with no national development plan and an international team that lurches from one match to the next, relying only on passion and desire.

Everything wrong with Irish football got exposed tonight. We can continue to ignore it, or we can use this as an opportunity to do something about it.

Agree with all.of that brine3 fair.play.

[mark12345]

I think this is the lowest point I remember for the Ireland side in my 50 plus years. And we have had some bad ones. Denmark are a bang average side with a very good midfielder, not a world class one. They are certainly not in the same league as the Denmark team that took us apart twice in the 80's. Since Brian Kerr we have had a succession of managers who instil lack of belief into the squad and encourage the squad to defend deep and try and nick a goal, then hang on for dear life. The neutrals who watched Saturdays game must have been praying we didn't make it, imagine having to watch that style played out on world cup TV for 90 minutes. My suggestion is forget the Euros, get rid of the veterans and try and build with younger players, and yes, even Eircom league players if they do the business in European club competition. We are going nowhere with this O'Neill. Get the other one or Kenny.

If Denmark are a bang average side, where does that leave us. THey played us off the park with their passing movements. How hard is it to come and look for a pass and move into space to look for a return pass. Ireland, N.Ireland just don't know how to play a passing football game.

[harry crumb]

Don't give that manager a new contract.

[mark12345]

Whatever about it being a shambles of an evening...

McGeady for Meyler is a substitution i will never understand.

I'm just despondent after that.

Mystery substitutions, a manager who has no faith in a constructive brand of football, four points squandered against Austria and Georgia (all of which was the manager's fault), players who don't have it in them to do anything else than hoof the ball all day long. You can only go so far with that bankrupt brand of football. We had no business in Russia. Spend the next four years developing players to pass and move and pass and move, just like the Danes did tonight. We are also crying out like never before for strikers. If you can't score goals it puts an awful lot of pressure on the defence. Our defence is always defending even when the ball is in the opponents half.

[tricky_colour]

We were favourites to top the group at one stage. What happened?

Reality called.

[the doc]

After the 6-1 home loss to Germany and the worst tournament performances we ever had. You're on your own there buddy.

Disagree, we played Spain and Italia, the two eventual finalists and Croatia who got to the later stages too.

All strong sides, add this to the equation, Shay, Richie, Josh were all carrying injuries.

That said we did as best we could, let’s not forget what Mr Trapattoni took over and how he got us back on track.

The current players just aren’t good enough,as is ONeill, spent force same.


In Trap we trust.

[mark12345]

Disagree, we played Spain and Italia, the two eventual finalists and Croatia who got to the later stages too.

All strong sides, add this to the equation, Shay, Richie, Josh were all carrying injuries.

That said we did as best we could, let’s not forget what Mr Trapattoni took over and how he got us back on track.

The current players just aren’t good enough,as is ONeill, spent force same.


In Trap we trust.

In Trap we trust? How about 'in ourselves we trust'. Why don't we trust ourselves to start coaching the game properly in Ireland? Denmark had to make a decision way back when to play the game properly, and look at them now. Iceland did the same and look at them. Iceland, with their massive population of 300,000 people put the whole island of Ireland, North and South, to shame. Utter shame.

[mark12345]

There will be an outcry and an inquest tomorrow. But what will come of it? Absolutely nothing, because we've been down this road many many times and all the FAI care about is getting to the next tournament and making the shillings. It's about time the top people in the LOI and the former internationals called out the FAI and demanded an end to year after pathetic year of hoof ball football.

[NeverFeltBetter]

The needed revolution in how underage football is handled here is just never going to happen though. We all know it needs to change, but the people in a position to make those changes seem to have no interest in doing so.

[pineapple stu]

There was a documentary on in the pub after the match, Giles.

It showed what was an U-11s match or similar - 11-a-side, on a full pitch with full goals.

Most of the rest of the world left that behind years ago - 7-a-side and smaller goals.

Tells its own story I think.

[Kingdom]

There was a documentary on in the pub after the match, Giles.

It showed what was an U-11s match or similar - 11-a-side, on a full pitch with full goals.

Most of the rest of the world left that behind years ago - 7-a-side and smaller goals.

Tells its own story I think.

My kid plays under 11s and they play seven a side in.smaller.goals.with very specific rules on time.spent on a pitch. Keeper cannot.kick.out of hands and there is a retreat line.
All above strictly enforced.

Under 12s are 9.a.side.on smaller pitch with smaller goals.

[pineapple stu]

Okey doke; good to hear. I'll take my comment back so.

Wonder what was in the documentary? Certainly the keeper was too small for the goals, and it was more than 7-a-side. Could have been 12s maybe? Wasn't aware of the intermediate 9-a-side phase

[gastric]

As Riff Raff said , I too am in 50s and I have never experienced such a disaster. This felt even worse than Henry's handball. I have mentioned on here somewhere that we may need to experience short term failure to ensure long term progress. Here's hoping that the FAI start to look at a strategic plan rather than just hoping it will just happen

[mark12345]

As Riff Raff said , I too am in 50s and I have never experienced such a disaster. This felt even worse than Henry's handball. I have mentioned on here somewhere that we may need to experience short term failure to ensure long term progress. Here's hoping that the FAI start to look at a strategic plan rather than just hoping it will just happen

I'll go along with that all day (experiencing short term failure to ensure long term progress). I would start by saying that if there is any group or league in underage football who fails to comply with the national coaching directive (ie play short sided games for under age kids and get rid of 11 v 11) then they should cease to be a league sanctioned by the FAI. Case closed, there can be no more argument about that and from what I understand the Dublin Schoolboy Leagues are still doing it their own way?? If so, the FAI and all other clubs should cut ties with them. Also, I've said it on here numerous times before, but we need to employ youth team coaches from countries who actually have a pedigree of producing talent (South America, Africa).