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davidatrb
13/10/2015, 5:31 PM
I would say if we are unseeded which is likely that 50-50 chance of qualifying sounds about right.

You have to remember that we beat Denmark 4-0 last time we played them and they recently were annihialated at home by Armenia (0-4).

Bosnia as we have reminded ourselves this week were beaten by both Cyprus and Israel in this campaign. Last time we played them, we beat them too. They were in the playoffs for the last Euros as well, and were wiped out by Portugal in the away leg (6-2).

Sweden look like they could be half useful, but only half. Their stats aren't anything to be afraid of, they haven't beaten a top 10 team in 4 years. Last time we played, they beat us 2-1 in Lansdowne, but I think now, if we meet again that we would be favourite over two legs or at least 50-50 chance.

Ukraine look the most useful but then they let Slovakia beat them at home and qualify ahead of them. Slovakia aren't great.

They will all look at Ireland as the World Champion beaters and we WILL be the one to avoid in the unseeded teams (although you could make a case for Turkey too).

We are all in the play-offs together for a reason, they all failed to make the grade just like us.

My preference - Denmark or Sweden.

DannyInvincible
13/10/2015, 6:41 PM
A Bosnia draw and (very unlikely) Israel victory over Belgium would suit us, wouldn't it? It'd mean Israel would enter the play-offs but wouldn't propel them ahead of us in terms of co-efficient points, if I'm reading everything correctly.

back of the net
13/10/2015, 7:00 PM
A Bosnia draw and (very unlikely) Israel victory over Belgium would suit us, wouldn't it? It'd mean Israel would enter the play-offs but wouldn't propel them ahead of us in terms of co-efficient points, if I'm reading everything correctly.

Bosnia 1up after 15 mins

DannyInvincible
13/10/2015, 7:02 PM
Balls. Need two from Cyprus now with no reply really.

DannyInvincible
13/10/2015, 7:10 PM
Netherlands 0-1 down so looking unlikely to make it to the play-offs.

DannyInvincible
13/10/2015, 7:12 PM
Norway beating Italy 1-0; not good. Croatia 1-0 up versus Malta.

DannyInvincible
13/10/2015, 7:20 PM
Fantastic; 1-1 in Cyprus. Another will do and hopefully Italy will sort their act out.

MeathDrog
13/10/2015, 7:20 PM
Cyprus equalised.

DannyInvincible
13/10/2015, 7:21 PM
Netherlands 0-2 down, so can kiss their hopes goodbye.

back of the net
13/10/2015, 7:21 PM
Holland 0 Czechs 2

geysir
13/10/2015, 7:22 PM
Czechs 2 up
Pretty obvious that Iceland have shattered Holland's spirit.

elroy
13/10/2015, 7:23 PM
Good night Netherlands. 2 down. What a fall from grace.

Real ale Madrid
13/10/2015, 7:26 PM
Goal Cyprus 2-1

back of the net
13/10/2015, 7:27 PM
Yessssssssssssssss...Cyprus 2 Bosnia 1

elroy
13/10/2015, 7:27 PM
Current status is we are still not seeded due to Norway winning in Italy bringing Croatia to the play offs. A goal for Italy and I think we're seeded

DannyInvincible
13/10/2015, 7:28 PM
Cyprus 2-1 up. Yes!

pineapple stu
13/10/2015, 7:28 PM
So Italy don't need to win - just draw?

(And other results to stay the same of course)

DannyInvincible
13/10/2015, 7:29 PM
Czechs down to 10 men; urgh...

DannyInvincible
13/10/2015, 7:29 PM
So Italy don't need to win - just draw?

(And other results to stay the same of course)

Just Italy we need to score one or more without reply.

Real ale Madrid
13/10/2015, 7:30 PM
Bosnia goal 2-2

back of the net
13/10/2015, 7:30 PM
bosnia have equalised 2-2

DannyInvincible
13/10/2015, 7:31 PM
Bah, Bosnia have equalised; 2-2.

geysir
13/10/2015, 7:31 PM
If by some travesty Turkey end up as seeded, they would be a dream play off opponent for us.

elroy
13/10/2015, 7:35 PM
If by some travesty Turkey end up as seeded, they would be a dream play off opponent for us.

Struggling to see how?

geysir
13/10/2015, 7:36 PM
Struggling to see how?
Why are you struggling to see how?

MeathDrog
13/10/2015, 7:38 PM
Why are you struggling to see how?
I don't see us going to Turkey looking for a result as a 'dream' scenario by anyone's standards.

elroy
13/10/2015, 7:39 PM
If by some travesty Turkey end up as seeded, they would be a dream play off opponent for us.


Why are you struggling to see how?

Away to Istanbul for start

Would much prefer Denmark, or even Bosnia or Sweden

eekers
13/10/2015, 7:40 PM
At HT the seeds are Ukraine, Sweden, Croatia, and Bosnia.

zero
13/10/2015, 7:42 PM
come on italy... croatia are probably the strongest team in the mix.

geysir
13/10/2015, 7:51 PM
Away to Istanbul for start

Would much prefer Denmark, or even Bosnia or Sweden
You haven't seen them play, yet you are struggling to see how they would be a dream pairing?
Home venue doesn't do that much for Turkey, they happen to play better away.

Real ale Madrid
13/10/2015, 8:03 PM
Italy 11 shots on goal to Norway's 2.

Cyprus / BiH game looks a ding dong affair - could go either way.

elroy
13/10/2015, 8:03 PM
If by some travesty Turkey end up as seeded, they would be a dream play off opponent for us.


You haven't seen them play, yet you are struggling to see how they would be a dream pairing?
Home venue doesn't do that much for Turkey, they happen to play better away.

Where did I say I haven't seen them play

elroy
13/10/2015, 8:10 PM
oh dear what an own goal by van persie. Seems their campaign up

Real ale Madrid
13/10/2015, 8:11 PM
:( Bosnia lead 3-2

paul_oshea
13/10/2015, 8:12 PM
Sky sports just said Turkey could qualify automatically if Kazakhstan beat Latvia.

elroy
13/10/2015, 8:13 PM
thats seeding gone I suspect. Really need Italy not to lose now. Get Croatia out of playoffs

zero
13/10/2015, 8:15 PM
Sky sports just said Turkey could qualify automatically if Kazakhstan beat Latvia.

yes, they and the kazakh's lead. turkey need to win their game too i think.

italy playing very lethargically... VERY.

davidatrb
13/10/2015, 8:15 PM
Hungary will be seeded ahead of us if Turkey get best placed 3rd. So we don't want that.

back of the net
13/10/2015, 8:16 PM
Hungary will be seeded ahead of us if Turkey get best placed 3rd. So we don't want that.



We want it ..provided we get Hungary in the draw... poor side

zero
13/10/2015, 8:18 PM
italy level!

elroy
13/10/2015, 8:18 PM
Italia goal

Talk about twists and turns

DannyInvincible
13/10/2015, 8:19 PM
Italy scored against Norway, which will keep Croatia out of the play-offs.

zero
13/10/2015, 8:20 PM
italy going all out for a winner here, not leaving anyone back...

davidatrb
13/10/2015, 8:21 PM
Clutching at straws here, but would I be right in thinking that if Luxembourg somehow get a result against Slovakia, Slovakia could slip to 3rd and be seeded below us?

That Italian goal puts Denmark into the seeds. Need two from Cyprus for our chance. And hope 10 man Turkey don't score.

davidatrb
13/10/2015, 8:23 PM
Turkey are on 16 points as it stands with a draw. They drew twice with Latvia so puts them on 14. Hungary are on 15 so will be best placed 3rd unless Turkey win. If Turkey win they have a higher coefficient than us anyway.

DannyInvincible
13/10/2015, 8:25 PM
Italy 2-1 up.

zero
13/10/2015, 8:26 PM
Turkey are on 16 points as it stands with a draw. They drew twice with Latvia so puts them on 14. Hungary are on 15 so will be best placed 3rd unless Turkey win. If Turkey win they have a higher coefficient than us anyway.

but kazakhstan are winning in latvia... so the latvia results are removed?

edit: sorry yes, other way around :)

elroy
13/10/2015, 8:27 PM
netherlands finally giving it a go 2-3

How can you not love international football?!?!

paul_oshea
13/10/2015, 8:27 PM
Holland another goal

DannyInvincible
13/10/2015, 8:28 PM
but kazakhstan are winning in latvia... so the latvia results are removed?

Two draws equal two points, which he's deducted to get 14 from 16.