Football in Shannon 2014/15

[Second]

what was all the drama with leahy and Olympic before game heard he was togging out for hibs tonight until Olympic chairman got involved ??

would love to know the rules on squads/ players for tournament ...? monk / tino togged out for Olympic in earlier games and monk played for hibs tonight and tino came on for Shannon town A ? also skinny played for Town a tonight and young Monaghan ? seems crazy that teams are able to use any players if needed?

town scorers Darren griffen / Gerry Kelly (2) gary o Connell penalty
Hibs scorer pa davenny

Whats the point playing the likes of young monaghan and tino if they are going to play in galway.. surely lads need a few games together to try and bond as a team ..

[talisman]

Can understand where your coming from although it is a pre season tournament I can't imagine shannon town (the holders) being too happy being knocked out over a coin toss, pretty sure players want to get as much ball playing time as they can before the season starts.

tbh imo the 30 minutes a half isnt much good to lads anyway

[First]

what was all the drama with leahy and Olympic before game heard he was togging out for hibs tonight until Olympic chairman got involved ??

would love to know the rules on squads/ players for tournament ...? monk / tino togged out for Olympic in earlier games and monk played for hibs tonight and tino came on for Shannon town A ? also skinny played for Town a tonight and young Monaghan ? seems crazy that teams are able to use any players if needed?

Isn't this why football in Shannon is declining or appears to be from the outside. Club hopping by players. Bad enough they are doing it during pre-season but during a tournament is ridiculous.

[old git]

Whats the point playing the likes of young monaghan and tino if they are going to play in galway.. surely lads need a few games together to try and bond as a team ..

Second

Makes no sense to me to play them ? at this stage of pre-season you would imagine managers would be trying to get all signed players as much game time as possible ? in fairness monaghan & tino would be great addation to any teams but no disrespect to any of the shannon teams but the two lads would be taking a step back signing for any shannon team :ball:

[Football-Unites]

Got to the Town A v Hibs game - some thoughts from it....

It was closer than the end scoreline suggests. Town were gifted 3 goals and the peno retake was a joke.
Hibs tired beyond belief, considering it was only 30 mins per half.
Don't know what Big Daddy was doing playing Monaghan and Tino - everyone knows they are going to play in Galway, some message to send to the players that are signed and sitting on the bench.
Gerry Kelly still has something to offer, but not sure he will be capable of starting league games - last 30/20 mins player for the season, younger lads on the bench can't be happy with that.
They have a lot of midfielders, and looked solid in that department, might be hard to keep them all happy, they were missing Darcy last night as well which means even more competition for places.
What are they going to do for a goalkeeper - don't think Newmarket will let Skinny play every week during the season :D and can't see Shire commuting from the U.S. :cool:
Hibs unlucky to lose the likes of Rob Wall and Jamie - they are Hibs men, but have left when needed most.
It will be a long season for Hibs. Not too sure what it will be like for Town, thought they had a lot more to offer.

On a side note, I see Town A have another 7.30 kick off for the semi-final, they must have a bit of pull with the fixture secretary :p

[AC Melon]

Got to the Town A v Hibs game - some thoughts from it....

It was closer than the end scoreline suggests. Town were gifted 3 goals and the peno retake was a joke.
Hibs tired beyond belief, considering it was only 30 mins per half.
Don't know what Big Daddy was doing playing Monaghan and Tino - everyone knows they are going to play in Galway, some message to send to the players that are signed and sitting on the bench.
Gerry Kelly still has something to offer, but not sure he will be capable of starting league games - last 30/20 mins player for the season, younger lads on the bench can't be happy with that.
They have a lot of midfielders, and looked solid in that department, might be hard to keep them all happy, they were missing Darcy last night as well which means even more competition for places.
What are they going to do for a goalkeeper - don't think Newmarket will let Skinny play every week during the season :D and can't see Shire commuting from the U.S. :cool:
Hibs unlucky to lose the likes of Rob Wall and Jamie - they are Hibs men, but have left when needed most.
It will be a long season for Hibs. Not too sure what it will be like for Town, thought they had a lot more to offer.

On a side note, I see Town A have another 7.30 kick off for the semi-final, they must have a bit of pull with the fixture secretary :p

Jack Kelly playing winger for hibs aswel a bit of a joke! Good ball player and probably the fittest player on the pitch excluding Gary O connell!

[Shuffleruns]

Got to the Town A v Hibs game - some thoughts from it....

It was closer than the end scoreline suggests. Town were gifted 3 goals and the peno retake was a joke.
Hibs tired beyond belief, considering it was only 30 mins per half.
Don't know what Big Daddy was doing playing Monaghan and Tino - everyone knows they are going to play in Galway, some message to send to the players that are signed and sitting on the bench.
Gerry Kelly still has something to offer, but not sure he will be capable of starting league games - last 30/20 mins player for the season, younger lads on the bench can't be happy with that.
They have a lot of midfielders, and looked solid in that department, might be hard to keep them all happy, they were missing Darcy last night as well which means even more competition for places.
What are they going to do for a goalkeeper - don't think Newmarket will let Skinny play every week during the season :D and can't see Shire commuting from the U.S. :cool:
Hibs unlucky to lose the likes of Rob Wall and Jamie - they are Hibs men, but have left when needed most.
It will be a long season for Hibs. Not too sure what it will be like for Town, thought they had a lot more to offer.

On a side note, I see Town A have another 7.30 kick off for the semi-final, they must have a bit of pull with the fixture secretary :p

Would you fancy hibs to beat Olympic then in the semi-final as you were so impressed...?

[Shuffleruns]

Jack Kelly playing winger for hibs aswel a bit of a joke! Good ball player and probably the fittest player on the pitch excluding Gary O connell!

Whats his usual position??

[Football-Unites]

Shuffle - where did I say I was impressed ? I was kinda the opposite of impressed, but maybe my post above is not clear...

I would expect Olympic to win, but in 90 mins of football - sorry 60 mins of football, anything is possible - I suppose it's more possible in 60, than 90 mins...

Hibs no 10 looked decent enough and they have some decent players, but very unfit and decision making on the ball was questionable at times.

I know I joked about the KO time for Town A, but does anyone know why they are lucky enough to have the late kick-off every time ? Just wondering because it's a tad unfair :ball:

[Shuffleruns]

Shuffle - where did I say I was impressed ? I was kinda the opposite of impressed, but maybe my post above is not clear...

I would expect Olympic to win, but in 90 mins of football - sorry 60 mins of football, anything is possible - I suppose it's more possible in 60, than 90 mins...

Hibs no 10 looked decent enough and they have some decent players, but very unfit and decision making on the ball was questionable at times.

I know I joked about the KO time for Town A, but does anyone know why they are lucky enough to have the late kick-off every time ? Just wondering because it's a tad unfair :ball:

Something to do with the pitch

[Football-Unites]

Huh ? What would the pitch have to do with the A team getting to play all there games at 7.30 ?

[Shuffleruns]

The final is on at 6:15 or 6:30 I think on sat too. That should favour Olympic or hibs as they have played at that time already.

[old git]

The final is on at 6:15 or 6:30 I think on sat too. That should favour Olympic or hibs as they have played at that time already.

please tell me you are not serious with post above ??:confused:

[Shuffleruns]

What do you think ;)

[Football-Unites]

ha ha ha

That's assuming either Hibs or Olympic are in the final, something will happen, both teams will be disqualified and it will be a town a versus b final...:confused:

I take it you don't think the later kick-off time is an advantage in having your players ready and available ? Some lads don't finish work until 5.30/6.00... Expected to be ready for a game at 6.15!

[Football-Unites]

ps: what about your pitch comment, what on earth (see what I did there), does that mean ?

[Shuffleruns]

Ah I was only taking the €!ss - have no idea why the fixtures are that way

[Second]

Maybe town committee is hoping by A team playing later it will attract more town supporters out to shout them on..

[Hibs7772]

Whats his usual position??
Centre mid

[old git]

ha ha ha

That's assuming either Hibs or Olympic are in the final, something will happen, both teams will be disqualified and it will be a town a versus b final...:confused:

I take it you don't think the later kick-off time is an advantage in having your players ready and available ? Some lads don't finish work until 5.30/6.00... Expected to be ready for a game at 6.15!

football unites something we don't know about both teams being disqualified :confused: most lads should be able to get a bit of time of work to make early games and if not that's what a squad is for ?

[Two Feet Up]

football unites something we don't know about both teams being disqualified :confused: most lads should be able to get a bit of time of work to make early games and if not that's what a squad is for ?

would that include the Shannon town players :D

[gerardkelly]

Got to the Town A v Hibs game - some thoughts from it....

It was closer than the end scoreline suggests. Town were gifted 3 goals and the peno retake was a joke.
Hibs tired beyond belief, considering it was only 30 mins per half.
Don't know what Big Daddy was doing playing Monaghan and Tino - everyone knows they are going to play in Galway, some message to send to the players that are signed and sitting on the bench.
Gerry Kelly still has something to offer, but not sure he will be capable of starting league games - last 30/20 mins player for the season, younger lads on the bench can't be happy with that.
They have a lot of midfielders, and looked solid in that department, might be hard to keep them all happy, they were missing Darcy last night as well which means even more competition for places.
What are they going to do for a goalkeeper - don't think Newmarket will let Skinny play every week during the season :D and can't see Shire commuting from the U.S. :cool:
Hibs unlucky to lose the likes of Rob Wall and Jamie - they are Hibs men, but have left when needed most.
It will be a long season for Hibs. Not too sure what it will be like for Town, thought they had a lot more to offer.

On a side note, I see Town A have another 7.30 kick off for the semi-final, they must have a bit of pull with the fixture secretary :p


Thanks F-U for your kinds words but hopefully i can last a bit longer than 20/30 mins. Like everyone else in the squad i train just as hard as everyone else. As for the so called younger lads it's up to them to get themselves into the side by putting IN the hard work & effort both on & off the pitch. They shouldn't start just because they are young. They should deserved to start because they are playing well & the same goes for everyone else in the squad. That's how it works & how it should work IMO. As for Tino i don't know the lad or what he has discussed with BD so i can't comment on that. As for Brian he has told me he is not going to Galway. Being his uncle I've had some chats with him i personally think he should't go to Galway something i have told him already. Now as for the starting times for the games. It's a Shannon Town tournament & if i was the manager i'd make sure games were played at times that suited my team. I'm sure if the tournament was ran by Rineanna,Hibs or Olympic they would do the same. Also none of the other clubs have contacted the club to have games changed.

[Football-Unites]

I was only joking about teams being disqualified and in all honesty I'm just having a slight dig at Town for having all their matches at 7.30 :cool:
To be fair Shannon Town go to a lot of effort to run the competition, so why not have your games on when you want..... I do know that if I was an opposition Manager that I would be questioning it tho and looking for fairness all round...

Gerry, you make perfectly valid points which I fully accept. I do hope I didn't sound too harsh (it wasn't meant to be harsh), I was just surprised to see you still leading the line after all these years... In fairness you're still getting around the pitch fairly well and I shouldnt really be making snap judgements on watching just one game.
You did also score 2 goals, so as a striker,once you are doing that, you're doing your job....

Tino and Monaghan, I was told they are both going to Galway - so I stand corrected on that. I do think that if either signs for a team in Shannon then it's a backwards step for them -no disrespect to the teams in shannon, it's just the players will not progress to bigger and better things - I hope I am wrong about this if they do sign with a Shannon Team...

Last question lads - how narrow is the town pitch ? Is there a reason that it's so narrow ?

[Second]

Surely towns pitch is so narrow as gerry kelly is up front on his own.. at his age and all..

I agree with gerry if he is training as hard as anyone else he deserves to start regardless of age.. not many lads have played as high a level as him..

[gaiscíoch]

I think if you have to argue the point you have already lost........

[OneNightOnly]

Thanks F-U for your kinds words but hopefully i can last a bit longer than 20/30 mins. Like everyone else in the squad i train just as hard as everyone else. As for the so called younger lads it's up to them to get themselves into the side by putting IN the hard work & effort both on & off the pitch. They shouldn't start just because they are young. They should deserved to start because they are playing well & the same goes for everyone else in the squad. That's how it works & how it should work IMO. As for Tino i don't know the lad or what he has discussed with BD so i can't comment on that. As for Brian he has told me he is not going to Galway. Being his uncle I've had some chats with him i personally think he should't go to Galway something i have told him already. Now as for the starting times for the games. It's a Shannon Town tournament & if i was the manager i'd make sure games were played at times that suited my team. I'm sure if the tournament was ran by Rineanna,Hibs or Olympic they would do the same. Also none of the other clubs have contacted the club to have games changed.

Why have you discouraged your nephew from playing LOI in Galway? Surely as a player, you should play at as high a level as possible.
He's overage next season, this is his last chance to play at that standard.
Don't understand the logic

[gerardkelly]

Why have you discouraged your nephew from playing LOI in Galway? Surely as a player, you should play at as high a level as possible.
He's overage next season, this is his last chance to play at that standard.
Don't understand the logic

Sorry ONO i'm not discouraging Brian from playing LOI at all but when you know the full facts it's very easy for me to say to Brian don't go to Galway. He's still only 18 with plenty of time ahead of him to play LOI.

F-U I'm not that old honest :) All that i can say is i don't think it's a step backwards if they sign for a Shannon team. Sideways yes. They are still both very young & need to but in a lot of hard work,effort & desire if they want to achieve playing LOI. Many a player has played Junior Soccer for a few years & moved up then. I know Brian & know what he wants , but he's not there yet & that's just my opinion. I will help him in anyway i can but he has to put in the work.
As for the pitch it was done for a reason but will be put back in time to 110 x 70. Currently 100 x 60

[Football-Unites]

Ha ha ... I don't know about that Gerry !!!

Sideways move ? we'll have to disagree on that, if they signed premier in Limerick, then that would be sideways, or maybe a step forward, not so sure about them playing for a Shannon team, they need to be in a better shop window to have a chance to go places (imo).... But that's what's good about the game, full of opinions !!

Was just wondering about the pitch really, looks queer small at the moment :ball:

[OneNightOnly]

Junior football in Shannon is not on par with LOI19s. It's at least 2 steps backwards if your being honest with yourself. Long way down to 1A from Fahys Field.
Only thing he'll get at Shannon Town is a bad attitude and bad habits.

[gerardkelly]

Okay ONO & F-U i'm going to stop talking about Brain now cause NO.1 i broke my own rule by discussing players on this Forum & NO.2 i haven't a clue who i am having this discussing with. I do how ever take both your points. All about opinions i suppose. Yes F-U pitch is a bit small but it suits me just fine :)

[Planners]

Okay ONO & F-U i'm going to stop talking about Brain now cause NO.1 i broke my own rule by discussing players on this Forum & NO.2 i haven't a clue who i am having this discussing with. I do how ever take both your points. All about opinions i suppose. Yes F-U pitch is a bit small but it suits me just fine :)

Good man Ger , i think that i speak for all of us in the consortium when i say , your pushing on , time to hang up the boots :)

[Rizzo]

Any scores and line ups from tonight?

[AC Melon]

Shannon Olympic 3-1 Hibs
Olympic - Pricey-BJ Duggan Alex Dean Power - Jamie Egan Ray Brian Ryan - Garry Higgins Gary leahy.
Hibs - Mark Long - Cathal McCoy Finbar D.Devanney Monk - Darren Gav Daragh Leahy Jack Kelly - Davy wall and Rasher
Olympic went 3-0 through Garry higs, leahy and an OG, hibs got 1 back by Daragh Leahy and hibs were on top last 10-15 very unlucky not to get another, Probably felt a little hard done by the decisions with bunny taking a hurl of abuse but that's football. IMO Olympic still deserved the win. On to the Final now against Shannon Town A (I assume) as im told they were winning 3-1. Any final reports on that game?

[Two Feet Up]

Thanks F-U for your kinds words but hopefully i can last a bit longer than 20/30 mins. Like everyone else in the squad i train just as hard as everyone else. As for the so called younger lads it's up to them to get themselves into the side by putting IN the hard work & effort both on & off the pitch. They shouldn't start just because they are young. They should deserved to start because they are playing well & the same goes for everyone else in the squad. That's how it works & how it should work IMO. As for Tino i don't know the lad or what he has discussed with BD so i can't comment on that. As for Brian he has told me he is not going to Galway. Being his uncle I've had some chats with him i personally think he should't go to Galway something i have told him already. Now as for the starting times for the games. It's a Shannon Town tournament & if i was the manager i'd make sure games were played at times that suited my team. I'm sure if the tournament was ran by Rineanna,Hibs or Olympic they would do the same. Also none of the other clubs have contacted the club to have games changed.

Ger, great to see you at nearly 40 (later this year) getting into the Town A team on merit. It shows that with effort, dedication, quality and looking after oneself that you can have a good long career in football. Not sure what your goal is but maybe you are the new Jimmy Rocks :p

However, I bet you are extremely happy to be playing at the same level as the LOI19's seeing that you think it would be a side step for the two boys if they stayed with Shannon town. Seriously you can't really believe that. You went to Limerick at an early age under Noel King and gave it a shot and maybe your memories are not as fond as you would have liked, but I bet you are glad you gave it a go and tried to play at the highest level. You did go on to pay for Fairview which again I am sure you would see as a step up from Shannon town (or else you would not have done so) so maybe it would be best for the lads development to go play at a higher, more , professional level. If they don't succeed they don't succeed. however would be horrible for a club to try hold onto them , because they make their team shine, when they should be pushing them onto bigger and better things. ps: not saying you are doing that, but I have seen clubs being selfish....

anyway what will be will be I suppose, any result to the town game?

[gerardkelly]

Ha ha Two Feet Up. Jimmy Rocks is a legend in Shannon Football but i certainly won't be playing as long as Jimmy did :)
Seriously i hope that if these lads are good enough to play at that level then they should but what i'm saying is if brian is not happy in Galway,well then don't go. I will always encourage any player to play at the highest level that they can. Back when i played LOI we only had a 1st team with a small panel of players & no under 19's or 21 set up. Things went well for me under Billy Kinnane & not so well under Noel King.That was my fault cause i stop working as hard as i did to get there & didn't work hard enough to stay there. My time with Fairview was great & i really enjoyed it there something that i certainly not forget. Brian has not been put under any pressure to sign for Shannon Town & i certainly never asked him to sign. If he or any other player decide to go into town to play premier i would only advise him only to sign for any of the top 4/5 sides. I'm not happy that he is back playing Junior football but i sure if he did sign BD would give him some good advice & with his contacts in football help him to move on to pastures greener.
Shannon Olympic 3 Shannon Hibs 1
Shannon Town A 3 Shannon Town B 1

[Two Feet Up]

Ha ha Two Feet Up. Jimmy Rocks is a legend in Shannon Football but i certainly won't be playing as long as Jimmy did :)
Seriously i hope that if these lads are good enough to play at that level then they should but what i'm saying is if brian is not happy in Galway,well then don't go. I will always encourage any player to play at the highest level that they can. Back when i played LOI we only had a 1st team with a small panel of players & no under 19's or 21 set up. Things went well for me under Billy Kinnane & not so well under Noel King.That was my fault cause i stop working as hard as i did to get there & didn't work hard enough to stay there. My time with Fairview was great & i really enjoyed it there something that i certainly not forget. Brian has not been put under any pressure to sign for Shannon Town & i certainly never asked him to sign. If he or any other player decide to go into town to play premier i would only advise him only to sign for any of the top 4/5 sides. I'm not happy that he is back playing Junior football but i sure if he did sign BD would give him some good advice & with his contacts in football help him to move on to pastures greener.
Shannon Olympic 3 Shannon Hibs 1
Shannon Town A 3 Shannon Town B 1

have to agree with the bits above.

should be a good final

[OneNightOnly]

have to agree with the bits above.

should be a good final

Would he get in to the top 4/5 sides?

[Football-Unites]

Results as expected last night to be fair.
Hibs battled back near the end and could have had 2 goals (should have had really), but Olympic were much better overall.
Town B gave a good account of themselves, very unlucky with the blocked first goal and did well to keep the score at 3-1 come the end of the game.

Didn't Shannon Town stop Tino going to play with Hibs last year in the WW because of his Loi involvement/connection - what's so different this year ? What a difference a year makes - Looks like they can change/bend the rules to suit themselves :shut:

[Second]

Jaysus football unites you have some grudge with shannon town..

[Football-Unites]

Ha Ha not at all - I think they are a very good club

I'm just stating what I heard and pointing out some questionable items with their us of the rules, it's only a pre-season tournament, but regardless of who runs it, it should be run fairly.

[Lev Yashin]

Ha Ha not at all - I think they are a very good club

I'm just stating what I heard and pointing out some questionable items with their us of the rules, it's only a pre-season tournament, but regardless of who runs it, it should be run fairly.

It's a shannon town tournament... If they wanted to do a five a side on the astro turf that's their prerogative.

I wouldn't believe anything you "hear" in relation to soccer in shannon. If your not in the dressing room you don't have a clue what goes on.

[old git]

Results as expected last night to be fair.
Hibs battled back near the end and could have had 2 goals (should have had really), but Olympic were much better overall.
Town B gave a good account of themselves, very unlucky with the blocked first goal and did well to keep the score at 3-1 come the end of the game.

Didn't Shannon Town stop Tino going to play with Hibs last year in the WW because of his Loi involvement/connection - what's so different this year ? What a difference a year makes - Looks like they can change/bend the rules to suit themselves :shut:

football -unites i had forgot about that ;) also did tino not come on as a sub for Olympic in wesley webb earlier round ?? he was definatly on olympic match card for one game ?? so how can he then play for Shannon town ?? rules what rules ?

[old git]

It's a shannon town tournament... If they wanted to do a five a side on the astro turf that's their prerogative.

I wouldn't believe anything you "hear" in relation to soccer in shannon. If your not in the dressing room you don't have a clue what goes on.

So lev what your saying is because it is town tournament they can do what they like >> referee for Tournament confirmed rule of once player played for team or named on match card he was part of that squad ?? Looks like tino olympic - town a is against the rules :confused:

[Football-Unites]

Lev, Sorry I should be clearer, I know for a fact that Tino was barred / stopped / not allowed (whatever you want to call it) to play for Hibs last year because of his LOI connection. Hibs were told the would be disqualified. This is a fact.

Tino is the same this year, however he is allowed to play for Shannon Town - are you saying that because it's Shannon Town's tournament, then they can do whatever they want with the rules in order to suit themselves ? I'm sure they can run the tournament in whatever format they choose, but they should be consistent with the rules and not change them for their benefit.

[Rizzo]

Any predictions for the final folks?

[Two Feet Up]

Gerry, normaly comes on and gives the correct information. Will be interesting to see what went on last year and this year as he should be in the know. Also wondering if he has played for somebody else in the earlier rounds does that nullify the Town A team and means their B team progress to the Final?

Park went to a final years ago when it was an end of season tournament, when newtown fielded a player that was signed with park. Park went on and won the final

[Second]

football -unites i had forgot about that ;) also did tino not come on as a sub for Olympic in wesley webb earlier round ?? he was definatly on olympic match card for one game ?? so how can he then play for Shannon town ?? rules what rules ?

A player has to play in the game to be cup tied

[AC Melon]

Gerry, normaly comes on and gives the correct information. Will be interesting to see what went on last year and this year as he should be in the know. Also wondering if he has played for somebody else in the earlier rounds does that nullify the Town A team and means their B team progress to the Final?

Park went to a final years ago when it was an end of season tournament, when newtown fielded a player that was signed with park. Park went on and won the final
Well Tino was togged for Olympic vs Rineanna, and yes he wasnt allowed to play last year because of the LOI connection. Don't know what rules are in place for that (or if there is any) but If rules were in place in past years then they shouldnt be changed regardless of who runs the tournament. Fair enough about using times to suit your team as it is ST tournament.

[old git]

A player has to play in the game to be cup tied

Second

why did referee then say player had to play or be named on match card to be cup tied as you call it... I Would imagine referee would have been told of rules by town ?

[Second]

Second

why did referee then say player had to play or be named on match card to be cup tied as you call it... I Would imagine referee would have been told of rules by town ?

Im just stating the rule look at celtic game last week