Irish Abroad 2012/2013

[Charlie Darwin]

A Peterborough forum is speculating about a move for Devine & Williams of Villa as it seems they may not be offered anything by Villa. Tough if true, FA Youth Cup winning CB pairing and its still not enough.

http://www.londonroad.net/Forums/showthread.php?t=53202&page=32
Williams doesn't seem to think he's going anywhere, Lambert either.


Williams revealed a pep-talk from manager Paul Lambert and the presence of other Villa academy graduates helped him through his claret and blue bow.“

The gaffer said: ‘You wouldn’t be here if I didn’t think you were good enough’, so that helped a lot,” said Williams.

http://www.birminghampost.net/midlands-birmingham-sport/west-midlands-sports/aston-villa-fc/2012/12/06/villa-s-derrick-williams-star-struck-on-premier-league-debut-65233-32372693/#ixzz2FUojcDVE

[ArdeeBhoy]

Barry McNamee along with Stephen McLaughlin joining Notts Forest..

Are they both still eligible for us?

[Charlie Darwin]

They're both from Donegal.

[tetsujin1979]

They're both from Donegal.
have either played for us at underage level?

[Charlie Darwin]

Not as far as I know. I think both are still eligible for the U21s, McNamee at least.

[tetsujin1979]

Not as far as I know. I think both are still eligible for the U21s, McNamee at least.
can't find any mention of them on fai.ie or soccerscene.ie, other than appearances for Derry, so it looks like they haven't

[Charlie Darwin]

In fairness, McNamee wasn't even on the scene at Derry until mid-summer when the U21s last played their qualifiers. McLaughlin was just plain overlooked because underage managers tend not to look at domestic players, although we're seeing some change in that regard.

[bwagner]

Reading f.c's Niall Keown, son on Martin is to play for the under 19s next year

[bwagner]

Lads did that Feely lad get his move to Charlton Athletic ?

[tetsujin1979]

Lads did that Feely lad get his move to Charlton Athletic ?
yeah, but the deal won't go through until January 1st (Mayan apocalypse permitting): http://www.cafc.co.uk/news/article/20121128-morrison-suspension-feely-514421.aspx
The club confirmed on Wednesday morning that terms had been agreed with Irish club Bohemians for the transfer of defender Kevin Feely.

The deal for the 19-year-old Dublin-born centre-half will take effect on New Year's Day when the transfer window reopens.

[bwagner]

Thanks Tets
The Keown piece was in The Star yesterday

[liamoo11]

Kurtis Byrne let go in scotland maybe he would get chance back home

[Charlie Darwin]

Isn't Scotland his home? (I know he's Irish but he's spent his life there).

[nigel-harps1954]

Are they both still eligible for us?

McLaughlin from Clonmany in Donegal, I'm fairly sure he's 22.

McNamee is from Ramelton, just outside Letterkenny. Still only 20.

Neither have made international appearances as far as I'm aware.

[Paddy Garcia]

Reading f.c's Niall Keown, son on Martin is to play for the under 19s next year

His mother must be Irish then.

[Irish_Praha]

His mother must be Irish then.

If I remember correctly Martin Keown has strong Irish links and used to play GAA before joining Arsenal as a school boy. Can be that he is married to an Irish woman but he has two Irish parents too.

Edit: on his wiki page under international career it explains how he ended up playing full international with England instead of Ireland.

[DannyInvincible]

His mother must be Irish then.

Why do you say that? Weren't Martin Keown's parents both born in Ireland?

[liamoo11]

Isn't Scotland his home? (I know he's Irish but he's spent his life there).

Indeed. He was at norwich as a youth player so that may be his spiritual home but personally I hope his soul yearns for the plains of Esdraelon but you cant be sure I suppose.

[Stuttgart88]

If I remember correctly Martin Keown has strong Irish links and used to play GAA before joining Arsenal as a school boy. Can be that he is married to an Irish woman but he has two Irish parents too.

Edit: on his wiki page under international career it explains how he ended up playing full international with England instead of Ireland.I think his dad felt that Britain had been good to him, providing work etc. I think he felt that it'd be best for Martin because there was still anti-Irish feeling at the time and he didn't want Martin subjected to that.

[Paddy Garcia]

Why do you say that? Weren't Martin Keown's parents both born in Ireland?

Yes they were as far as I know.

Some scarcasm on my part - given Martin hitched his wagon to England - its a little ironic that the commitment to Ireland skips a generation!

[gastric]

Goals to Paul Heffernan, Eoin Doyle and Barry Maguire today.

[Irish_Praha]

Goals to Paul Heffernan, Eoin Doyle and Barry Maguire today.

Is Eoin Doyle a similar player to Sammon? (I hope i haven't restarted the sammon puns with this question)

[Charlie Darwin]

No, Sammon is a typical English #9. Doyle is a small, quick player who can play as a wide forward as easily as a poacher.

[tetsujin1979]

Stephen Gleeson out until March with a broken foot: http://www.mkdons.com/news/article/double-injury-blow-for-dons-558004.aspx

[Irish_Praha]

No, Sammon is a typical English #9. Doyle is a small, quick player who can play as a wide forward as easily as a poacher.

Ok thanks; the reason I asked is because his wiki page says he is 6 ft but it wouldn't be the first time wiki was wrong :)

[bwagner]

LUKE MURPHY (23, midfielder) Crewe Alexandra .mentioned today in bbc as a top 50 January transfer target
get him on board

[Charlie Darwin]

Is he actually eligible or did you just pick a vaguely Irish-sounding name?

[bwagner]

Ah they are all able

[SkStu]

http://s.pro-gmedia.com/videogamer/media/images/pub/large/dougal_.jpg

[SkStu]

Keith Treacy scored for Burnley today.

Paddy Madden scored 2 for Yeovil against Leyton Orient...

[liamoo11]

god tracey was completely out of picture formonths for the last year there fair play to him for stickin with it

[Olé Olé]

god tracey was completely out of picture formonths for the last year there fair play to him for stickin with it

I'd imagine a new manager and a clean slate is really helping him in that respect, because there's no doubting he has plenty ability for the Championship- dropping down to Sheffield United last season was below him.

Hard to know whether the future will see him be an Alan Quinn or a Stephen Hunt. I'd suggest the former, because the latter's work ethic and industry is what has differentiated him from most of the other Irish midfield players that have spent almost their entire careers outside of the Premiership.

[tetsujin1979]

Burton Albion looking to extend Anthony O'Connor's loan until the end of the season: http://www.burtonalbionfc.co.uk/news/article/oconnor-loan-extension-573770.aspx

[tetsujin1979]

Irish Abroad statistics for December 2012: http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/MonthlyStats?month=12
Robbie Brady and David Meyler won five of Hull City's games, no other outfield player won more than three with only Stephen Henderson winning four games
With the busy Christmas period, Matt Doherty started eight games in 31 days, completing 90 minutes in each one, and going on to end all square on five occasions
Jay Tabb mirrored Reading's form by starting five losses in the final month of 2012
Wes Hoolahan was withdrawn from the action in five of the six games he started in December
Conversely, quite a few players were introduced from the bench three times, with Aiden White, Patrick Cregg, Stephen Ireland, Keith Treacy, Joe Mason and Noel Hunt each achieving a hat trick of introductions
Unsurprisingly, Keiren Westwood was an unused substitute more than any other player, remaining on the bench seven times. For outfield players, midfielder Daniel Kearns was an unused sub on five occasions
Striker Jon Daly scored the most goals, finding the back of the net six times, including three penalties, the same amount as Keith Andrews. David Meyler's three goals from midfield led to three wins for Hull
Jim Goodwin continued his form of being booked on average at least every other game by picking up three bookings in four games

[Closed Account]

Quick word on the other Daniel Devine; Daniel Devine from Belfast who had been seeing some action with Preston last season as a 19 year-old in the Championship. He was released by Preston in the summer and was signed by Fleetwood Town where he has subsequently become surplus to requirements and is at Wrexham on loan but, in effect, is on trial.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/sport-news/wrexham-fc/2012/09/18/wrexham-fc-sign-danny-devine-on-loan-until-christmas-55578-31855340/

The article mentions Devine having been on Rangers radar. Would have made an interesting move for a Belfast nationalist.
Has signed for Inverness
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20907073

[osarusan]

Don't know if it has been mentioned before, but Gary Deegan is either one of the best strikers in the world, and has been for the past 6 years, or somebody has been messing with his record on wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Deegan

Are more accurate records available anywhere?

[Charlie Darwin]

I fixed it - just some loser messing with things.

[BonnieShels]

I think his dad felt that Britain had been good to him, providing work etc. I think he felt that it'd be best for Martin because there was still anti-Irish feeling at the time and he didn't want Martin subjected to that.

Bingo as always Stutts.

To doubt Keown's Irishness is ridiculous.

I would have assumed the denizens of Foot.ie were well up on Martin's provenance at this stage.

[tetsujin1979]

Irish Abroad statistics for the first five months of 2012/2013: http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/MonthlyStats?month=13
Damien Delaney leads the wins table with 12 wins for Crystal Palace
Aaron Doran has started the most draws, with 12 games finishing level for the Inverness Caledonian Thistle winger
Stephen Dawson has started an extremely unlucky 13 losses up until the midway point of the season
Paddy Kenny, Stephen Ward, Richard Keogh and Aaron Doran have all started 26 games this season, with Kenny and Keogh going on to complete 90 minutes in every one of those!
Andy Reid has been withdrawn from the action the most so far this season, the Forest midfielder has been substituted 14 times
Midfielder Conor Pepper and striker Joe Mason have both been introduced from the bench more than any other player this season, 12 times in total
Unsurprisingly, goalkeepers top the most unused substitute table, with Conrad Logan remaining unused 27 times, and Colin Doyle one behind with 26, both more than twice as many as the highest outfield player, Stephen Kelly with 12
Jim Goodwin has the unwanted honour of the most bookings so far, picking up 10 yellows in only 20 appearances
It's a Scottish hat trick at the top of the goals table, with Jon Daly(11), Richie Foran(10) and Eoin Doyle(8) topping the goals chart, with Daly also scoring the most penalties at the half way point with three conversions from the spot, the same as midfielder Keith Andrews
The goals of quartet Shane Long, Daryl Murphy, Andy Keogh and Conor Sammon have all led to four wins for their respective sides

[Paddy Garcia]

Bingo as always Stutts.

To doubt Keown's Irishness is ridiculous.

I would have assumed the denizens of Foot.ie were well up on Martin's provenance at this stage.


OK .... but - the threat of running the gauntlet of anti-Irish feeling was not enough to put many many others off committing - frankly its a pretty lame excuse/explanation.

[CraftyToePoke]

OK .... but - the threat of running the gauntlet of anti-Irish feeling was not enough to put many many others off committing - frankly its a pretty lame excuse/explanation.

I had been under the impression it was a combination of wanting to contribute to their adopted country where they had made good lives and also the competition for a CB spot in the Irish side at the time being greater than that in the English side. I could be remembering wrongly on both of these though.

[liamoo11]

Isn't Scotland his home? (I know he's Irish but he's spent his life there).



http://www.extratime.ie/newsdesk/articles/9395/kurtis-byrne-joins-the-lilywhites/

[gastric]

Billy Clarke believes he is in the best form of his career according to this FA Preview.

http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/article/2/8378832/clarke-to-sparkle-against-royals

[tetsujin1979]

U19 Conor Wilkinson in the Millwall squad for today's cup tie with Preston

[Charlie Darwin]

19 year old Donegal man Carl McHugh is playing centre half for Bradford today in the League Cup semi final with Aston Villa. Given and Clark start for Villa with Stevens, Carruthers, Ireland and Burke on the bench.

[theworm2345]

19 year old Donegal man Carl McHugh is playing centre half for Bradford today in the League Cup semi final with Aston Villa. Given and Clark start for Villa with Stevens, Carruthers, Ireland and Burke on the bench.
Bullet header from McHugh...remember when he was playing for Swindon Supermarine.

[tetsujin1979]

Two players from Donegal scored in two separate cup competitions on two consecutive nights.

[Irish_Praha]

Two players from Donegal scored in two separate cup competitions on two consecutive nights.

With two different balls on two different pitches at two different temperatures and relative humidities

[BonnieShels]

With two different balls on two different pitches at two different temperatures and relative humidities

Brilliant.

[SkStu]

Keith Andrews and Andy Keogh both with penalties for their respective clubs in the same game.

And the boy in the striped pyjamas has scored again for Yeovil.