Irish Abroad 2012/2013

[bwagner]

True Stu but i meant like the young talent over like that keeper from New York... lads that might make the move to a better league in time ..
i guess im just depressed at the lack of players we have now playing regularly in the P.L

[Charlie Darwin]

True Stu but i meant like the young talent over like that keeper from New York... lads that might make the move to a better league in time ..
i guess im just depressed at the lack of players we have now playing regularly in the P.L
So you're looking to the diaspora in a poor league that produces few top players? There's a poor league at home that actually does produce premier league players and you don't even need to look into their ancestry.

[bwagner]

So you're looking to the diaspora in a poor league that produces few top players? There's a poor league at home that actually does produce premier league players and you don't even need to look into their ancestry.

Im bored at work mate give me a break

[tetsujin1979]

Lennie Lawrence and Curtis Fleming are taking charge of Crystal Palace tonight after Dougies Freedman left to take over at Bolton. Best of luck Curtis.
Watched a Chelsea game with him about 18 months ago in a hotel in Dublin airport, thought he was nice bloke, easy to talk to, although in my head I was screaming "HOLY CRAP, YOU PLAYED FOR IRELAND!"

[gastric]

Butcher wants to keep Roberts for the season.


http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/inverness/195492-arsenal-kid-philip-roberts-in-talks-over-extending-inverness-stay/

[SkStu]

Cilian Sheridan scores for Killie against $€ltic...

Btw, Niall McGinn gets his 5th goal in 5 games for Aberdeen.

[gastric]

Good to see Brendan Moloney start for Forest after rumours he was going out on loan. A good win too with Cox scoring!

[gastric]

Mick McCarthy supposedly taking over at Ipswich and Matt Holland coming on board too.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/ipswich-mick-mccarthy-is-set-to-be-installed-1407157

[Paddy Garcia]

Sean Dyche supposedly taking over at Burnley

[theworm2345]

Sean Dyche supposedly taking over at Burnley
Just because he looks slightly Irish doesn't mean he belongs in this thread :p

[Paddy Garcia]

Just because he looks slightly Irish doesn't mean he belongs in this thread :p

I thought he was in an Irish squad at one point! Might have been one of those enlarged ones before the cut is made.

http://www.ireland-mad.co.uk/unknown_team_or_unattached/player/season_135/sean_dyche_3362/index.shtml

[tetsujin1979]

U19 players Ian Lawlor and Jack Byrne will be lining out for Man City against Juventus in the NextGen Series this afternoon
It's live on Eurosport, if anyone wants to check it out

[theworm2345]

I thought he was in an Irish squad at one point! Might have been one of those enlarged ones before the cut is made.

http://www.ireland-mad.co.uk/unknown_team_or_unattached/player/season_135/sean_dyche_3362/index.shtml
Having a page on that site doesn't mean anything ;)
http://www.ireland-mad.co.uk/everton/player/season_141/nikica_jelavic_62419/index.shtml
http://www.ireland-mad.co.uk/tottenham_hotspur/player/season_141/emmanuel_adebayor_17500/index.shtml

[tetsujin1979]

U19 players Ian Lawlor and Jack Byrne will be lining out for Man City against Juventus in the NextGen Series this afternoon
It's live on Eurosport, if anyone wants to check it out
Lawlor saved a penalty, but Byrne was an unused sub: http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Match-reports/2012/October/Juventus-v-City-EDS-31-October

[Paddy Garcia]

Having a page on that site doesn't mean anything ;)
http://www.ireland-mad.co.uk/everton/player/season_141/nikica_jelavic_62419/index.shtml
http://www.ireland-mad.co.uk/tottenham_hotspur/player/season_141/emmanuel_adebayor_17500/index.shtml

Well it meant something to Sean Dyche

...and to his mother.

[tetsujin1979]

Irish Abroad statistics for October 2012: http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/MonthlyStats?month=10
In a month of relatively few games, three wins was enough to top the wins table, with Paul McShane, Damien Delaney, Lee Frecklington, Andy Reid, Aaron Doran, Joe Mason, Simon Cox and Philip Roberts all reaching that amount
Three was also the magic number for draws and losses with Paddy Kenny, David Forde, Richard Keogh, Matt Doherty, Alan Dunne, Jeff Hendrick and Seamus Coleman starting three games that finished all square, while Stephen Henderson, David van Zanten, Jim Goodwin, Matt Doherty, Tommy Hoban, Stephen Dawson, Graham Carey and Daryl Murphy finished on the losing side three times in October
Matt Doherty's loan to Bury meant he started 7 games, but inside the top two leagues in England and Scotland Paddy Kenny, David Forde, Alan Dunne, Kevin Foley, Stephen Ward, Paul McShane, Damien Delaney, Richard Keogh, Tommy Hoban, Alan Dunne, Kevin Foley, Stephen Ward, Paul McShane, Damien Delaney, Richard Keogh and Tommy Hoban all started 5 games
Doherty completed 90 minutes in each of his starts, along with Paddy Kenny, David Forde, Paul McShane, Alan Dunne, Damien Delaney, Richard Keogh, Stephen Ward, and Tommy Hoban
Philip Roberts was withdrawn from the action more than any other player, the striker was substituted 4 times
Unsurprisingly, goalkeepers Conrad Logan and Colin Doyle remained on the bench more than other players in October, both netminders were unused 5 times, while outfield players Alex Pearce, Paul Green and Sean Murray remained on the bench 4 times each
For possibly the first time ever, a defender tops the scoring leagues in a single month, Damien Delaney finding the back of the net three times. Palace remained unbeaten in these games

[SkStu]

Sean Scannell put Huddersfield in front against Bristol City.

[tetsujin1979]

there's as many Irish as Scots starting for Dundee United against Celtic today - 5

[TrapAPony]

Sean Morrison starts for Reading today. Trapattoni should be on the look out.

[bwagner]

Niall Canavan got a brace last night for scunny, Paddy Madden continues his great run, Hoban plays again for Watford as they kept a clean sheet, Brady came of the bench at Hull, Can anyone tell me why Coventry never play Henderson, he and Adam Barton no where to be seen last night , oh and sean mc ginty made the bench for carlise

[Charlie Darwin]

Henderson got injured in his first or second game for Coventry and hasn't played since.

[CraftyToePoke]

Can anyone tell me why Coventry never play Henderson, he and Adam Barton no where to be seen last night , oh and sean mc ginty made the bench for carlise

I think, and I could be very wrong, but did Barton sustain a long term injury recently?

[Charlie Darwin]

I think, and I could be very wrong, but did Barton sustain a long term injury recently?
That was last year when he was at Preston, he got a nasty case of ankle knack that probably led to his being sold.

It turns out he and Henderson are just out of favour:


Conor Henderson: “Conor’s career has been hampered by injuries but he’s somebody I like as a footballer – he’s athletic and he’s got great ability. He’s had a couple of cameos and it hasn’t really worked out for him yet so, again, it’s a case of trying to fit him into what we’re doing..

“I think the pace of the games surprised him a bit because you tend to think it’s quicker in the Premier League. It is in terms of thought, touch and passing, but it’s a different game – here they’re in your face, stopping you from moving so you need to know where you’re going with the ball.

“Given time he he’ll master that because he’s a really good footballer."

Adam Barton: “He’s a very good footballer, the sort of player you can build a team around, but at the moment it’s difficult to find a spot for him.

“He’s got a languid style which means that supporters sometimes think he’s not trying as hard as he could, but that’s the way he plays and he did particularly well in the Under-21 game at Leicester last week, finding space in the hole behind the striker.

“There are times when he’s got a touch of the Tommy Hutchison about him, although I wouldn’t want to saddle him with that comparison at Coventry!”

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/coventry-city-fc/coventry-city-fc-news/2012/10/31/92746-32135337/

[tetsujin1979]

Burke and Drennan the scorers for Aston Villa tonight in a 2-0 win against Ajax in the NextGen series

[bwagner]

Burke and Drennan the scorers for Aston Villa tonight in a 2-0 win against Ajax in the NextGen series

Devine , Curruthers and Grealish all had a great game also.
Crowley on the bench and a guy called O'Brein ??

[bwagner]

oh and kevin toner was on th bench ,hes irish
dan o brien played for england

[cornflakes]

Mason Watkins-Clarke who also played has been called up to the latest U18 squad by Paul Doolin. Watkins-Clarke and Sunderland player Lynden Gooch, who is also in the squad, are both American born
http://www.extratime.ie/newsdesk/articles/9209/doolin-announces-under-18-friendly-squad/

EDIT: Watkins-Clarke is from Bedford, not America. Don't know how i thought he was American

[liamoo11]

Devine , Curruthers and Grealish all had a great game also.
Crowley on the bench and a guy called O'Brein ??

Crowley has picked the dark side unfortunately stll think playing gaelic should disqualify you from lining out for anyone but us!

[CraftyToePoke]

Crowley has picked the dark side unfortunately stll think playing gaelic should disqualify you from lining out for anyone but us!

He plays Gaelic but has chosen Angleterre ? Such confusion in one so young. Maybe a few belts of a hurley would settle him.

[theworm2345]

Watched young Anthony O'Connor (right) and Damien McCrory (left) both play the full 90 at full back for Burton tonight against Altrincham. Not much to report, both were relatively solid, but after the 3-3 draw at home in the first leg, I think Rowett wanted them to keep it tight at the back, so neither was attacking all that much at all. Too bad, because as I recall (might be wrong), O'Connor had some good attacking sense at the U19 World Championships. John McGrath came on late for Burton as well, which was apparently his first appearance since February.

[tetsujin1979]

Eoin Wearen has torn his cruciate and is out for the rest of the season: https://twitter.com/EWearen/statuses/269449757779443712

As expected I have ruptured my ACL...going to be out for the rest of the season!! Have to stay mentally strong and fully focused #Gutted (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Gutted&src=hash)

[theworm2345]

Watched Tranmere - MK Dons tonight. Not the greatest match in the world, but MK Dons featured Stephen Gleeson and Darren Potter in central midfield and Shaun Williams at centre half (was a bit surprised to see him there). Potter was pretty quiet for most of the game. Gleeson was all over the pitch and popped up with a late winner, just barely poking it over the line after a cross bobbled its way to him in the box. Williams did well at centre half and still took all of their set pieces. Otherwise, not much to report from a relatively boring match.

[tetsujin1979]

Posted in Jay O'Shea's thread that Conor Townsend signed with him on loan at Chesterfield: http://www.chesterfield-fc.co.uk/news/article/20121120-spireites-land-duo-on-loan-497808.aspx
From that article, referring to Townsend
The 19-year-old Irish left-back played for Hull reserves alongside fellow Spireites loanee Liam Cooper in last month’s second-string match at the Proact.
Can anyone confirm if Townsend is Irish? I can find no mention of him on the FAI's website and according to Hull's site he was born in England

[tetsujin1979]

The strange tale of how Stephen Maher got a trial at Grimsby: http://blog.allaboutballerz.com/2012/11/20/allaboutballerz-achieves-what-it-set-out-to-do/

[tetsujin1979]

Ryan Coombes linked with a move to Blackpool this morning

[liamoo11]

Posted in Jay O'Shea's thread that Conor Townsend signed with him on loan at Chesterfield: http://www.chesterfield-fc.co.uk/news/article/20121120-spireites-land-duo-on-loan-497808.aspx
From that article, referring to Townsend
Can anyone confirm if Townsend is Irish? I can find no mention of him on the FAI's website and according to Hull's site he was born in England

Id say that is a mistake I never remember him playing underage for us

[gastric]

John Egan broke his leg playing for Bradford on Tuesday night.

[gastric]

Selcuk Tidim is now at Hansa Rostock.

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/selcuk-tidim/leistungsdaten-vereindetail/spieler_94267.html

[tetsujin1979]

was a little bored tonight, so I went through the history of Ireland games on soccerscene.ie to see who are the highest ranked teams defeated, and lowest ranked sides lost to by Irish managers in competitive games, by matching up the teams with the rankings on fifa.com
here are the results:



Manager Highest Ranked Lowest Ranked
Team Defeated Team Lost To
Jack Charlton Italy(4) Austria(42)
Mick McCarthy Croatia(4) Macedonia(85)
Brian Kerr Georgia(84) Switzerland(44)
Steve Staunton Slovakia(37) Cyprus(103)
Giovanni Trapattoni Armenia(44) Russia(25)

[bwagner]

Armenia - dear baby jesus

[Paddy Garcia]

Jack was no mug!

But this says a lot about Trap......

[Colbert Report]

Doesn't the draw in Paris count as a win for us?

[Charlie Darwin]

Nope, FIFA counts the score at the blowing of the final whistle, which was 1-1.

[tetsujin1979]

this is the list of fixtures I used - https://sites.google.com/site/tetsujin1979/fixtures

[DannyInvincible]

was a little bored tonight, so I went through the history of Ireland games on soccerscene.ie to see who are the highest ranked teams defeated, and lowest ranked sides lost to by Irish managers in competitive games, by matching up the teams with the rankings on fifa.com
here are the results:



Manager Highest Ranked Lowest Ranked
Team Defeated Team Lost To
Jack Charlton Italy(4) Austria(42)
Mick McCarthy Croatia(4) Macedonia(85)
Brian Kerr Georgia(84) Switzerland(44)
Steve Staunton Slovakia(37) Cyprus(103)
Giovanni Trapattoni Armenia(44) Russia(25)



























Here are the averages of those figures ranked:

Jack: 23
Trap: 34.5
Mick: 44.5
Kerr: 64
Stan: 70

Does that indicate anything? To be fair to Trap, his "lowest ranked team lost to" record is a lot more impressive than the others'. Still, Armenia being our highest ranked team defeated is pretty lame.

[tetsujin1979]

not really sure what it indicates, Trapattoni has better results against lower ranked sides - never lost to a team ranked lower than Ireland

[bwagner]

There was a piece in the Star about this lad : Personal information
Full name Shane Edward O'Neill
Date of birth (1993-09-02) September 2, 1993 (age 19)
Place of birth Midleton, Ireland
Height 1.88 m (6 ft 2 in)
Playing position Midfielder
Club information
Current club Colorado Rapids


spoke to noel king about playing for us

[Charlie Darwin]

Interesting. Never heard of him. From wikipedia:


O'Neill is eligible to represent both the United States and the Republic of Ireland. On October 9, 2012, O'Neill was called up by the United States U20 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_men%27s_national_under-20_soccer_team) national team for the 2012 Marbella Cup in Spain.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane_O%27Neill_(soccer)#cite_note-3) A day later, O'Neill made his debut for the U20's in a 2-1 loss to Canada, however he suffered an eye injury that ruled him out for the rest of the tournament

[tetsujin1979]

seems to be a push on in the underage ranks to recruit US born players with Meara called into the U21s, and the two lads in the U19s?

[Charlie Darwin]

There's only one of the 19s, as far as I know, and O'Neill was born in Ireland.