Who's Gonna Win FAI Junior Cup 2004/05

[Thunderblaster]

Is The Draw Still On In The Pike Club Ha Ha
Heard It Is On In The Greenhills On The Sat Night When Balla Have They're 50 Anniversary Dance - Draw Will Take Place Before The Punch Up Sorry Punch Bowl Reception

Rumour has it that the draw is now switched to the Castlecourt Hotel in Westport following that historic result on Sunday. The idea is that there would be more atmosphere. :D

[Thunderblaster]

come on ye pike lads give us yer veiw, don't be mad it happens ha ha

The Mayo newspapers gave great reports on the match on Sunday, but looking at The Star today, there were reports and photographs from the Carew Park V Trim Ath game and the Park Rangers V Evergreen game. However, there was a major wall of silence on what was supposed to be the game of the weekend, Pike Rovers V Westport United. Had Pike won, would there have been a good write up in The Star? Probably better off anyway so as not to inflate the Westport ego on one of the most sensational results of Statoil/F.A.I. Junior Cup 2005 TM. The silence from the forum is undoubtedly deafening following the shock and horror after that upset. Pike supporters must honestly come out with hand on their heart and say on the forum that the better side won. :ball:

[Thunderblaster]

Waterford crystal are totally overated, saw them against carrick and they had only two attacks from which they two goals as aresult of two fumbles from the keeper. They are totally defensive with not much to show going forward, the teams left in the last eight should have enough to break them down. Balla must be firm favourites now what's their form in the league like?

Waterford Crystal would be one of my tips for the semi final. Permutation allowing, my semi finalists will be Ballynanty Rovers, Killester United, Waterford Crystal and Westport United. Southend United two years ago were pretty defensive and rarely attacked but they always looked dangerous going forward. Waterford Crystal could be the very same as Southend United. :eek:

[CousinSylDolan]

I heard last night that Westport brought 500 supporters with them on Sunday. Surely bull.... That would be 10 bus loads!!!!!!!!!

[Supersub]

Surely if the Pike supporters would come out of hiding and tell us about the match on Sunday they would also be able to confirm how many people the Mayo lads brougt with them ...

If it is true , then I am sure that a lot of teams would like to get a home tie against Westport for the gate money as much as anything else !!!!

Pike supporters , where are you ???????

[kingpin]

Waterford Crystal would be one of my tips for the semi final. Permutation allowing, my semi finalists will be Ballynanty Rovers, Killester United, Waterford Crystal and Westport United. Southend United two years ago were pretty defensive and rarely attacked but they always looked dangerous going forward. Waterford Crystal could be the very same as Southend United. :eek:
I would agree that they are very similar to southend team of two years ago, defensively that crystal have an excellent keeper aswell. Southend, like crystal was a fluke and were eventually beaten by quality. You can't be beaten if you don't conceed but you can't win if you don't score, as far as iI'm concerned they don't have the quality going forward. I've seen them three times this year and was'nt impressed at all.

[widow]

was at the pike v westport game, there was definately over 200 westport supporters there, 10 bus loads?? some of them obviously drove.. away draw would be very tough, although they won't catch another team by surprise again

[Supersub]

I would agree that they are very similar to southend team of two years ago, defensively that crystal have an excellent keeper aswell. Southend, like crystal was a fluke and were eventually beaten by quality. You can't be beaten if you don't conceed but you can't win if you don't score, as far as iI'm concerned they don't have the quality going forward. I've seen them three times this year and was'nt impressed at all.

Take your point Kingpin but as we have seen with all other posts everyone seems to be pointing out weaknesses in the various teams left ...

The only teams that seem to be operating below the radar screen of this thread are Killester and Galway Hibs ... Anyone have any reports on these two teams ???

[widow]

killester won the aul last year they can't be bad, winner is going to come from balla, carew, park, westport, killester

[kingpin]

Take your point Kingpin but as we have seen with all other posts everyone seems to be pointing out weaknesses in the various teams left ...

The only teams that seem to be operating below the radar screen of this thread are Killester and Galway Hibs ... Anyone have any reports on these two teams ???
Saw carrick play galway hibbs in last years quarter final, they opened the scoring and played well reasonably well for the opening hour. Carrick went 2-1 up and their heads dropped. They eventually lost that match 4-1 to fitness and lack of spirit in my opinion, a good footballing side but they don't seem to have much fighting spirit when there up against it. Don't know much about them this year but its there second successive year reaching the last eight, i don't think there good enough to win it. They don't like a hard physical match!!

[Thunderblaster]

killester won the aul last year they can't be bad, winner is going to come from balla, carew, park, westport, killester

I would seriously think that Killester United will win the F.A.I. Junior Cup because not only they won the A.U.L last season, they have progressed through the competition with minimal hype and the focus is on everyone else. I would imagine that it would be a close final between themselves and Ballynanty. I do not think anyone will fancy a trip to Hatton Park at this stage of the competition. For the others, I think that lack of national finals experience will be a killer. :ball:

[Thunderblaster]

I heard last night that Westport brought 500 supporters with them on Sunday. Surely bull.... That would be 10 bus loads!!!!!!!!!

Yes, the total is exaggerated. There were 200-300 supporters at the maximum. Most travelled by cars to the game :)

[Thunderblaster]

A question to all the forum regulars. Who would you fear most in the quarter final draw? :ball:

[cleansheetagain]

A question to all the forum regulars. Who would you fear most in the quarter final draw? :ball:
i think at this stage of the cup none of the 8 teams will fear each other, i imagine the lims teams will want to stear clear of each other,getting a home tie will be great imptotance

[Goals4fun]

i think at this stage of the cup none of the 8 teams will fear each other, i imagine the lims teams will want to stear clear of each other,getting a home tie will be great imptotance

I agree with that. Most of the teams left will be of similar standard ! There cannot be a major difference between them and of course it will be on the day !
I am sure all 8 quietly fancy their chances and are saying this can/must be our year. They draw will tell a lot !
Nobody wants an away tie at this stage ! I would fancy somebody outside the favourites as it seems to be that kinda of cup competition. Watch for the dark horses !!

[Goals4fun]

I would seriously think that Killester United will win the F.A.I. Junior Cup because not only they won the A.U.L last season, they have progressed through the competition with minimal hype and the focus is on everyone else. I would imagine that it would be a close final between themselves and Ballynanty. I do not think anyone will fancy a trip to Hatton Park at this stage of the competition. For the others, I think that lack of national finals experience will be a killer. :ball:


and if they draw themseleves in the 1/4 ??
Also have both these teams got national finals experience ??
It is really anybodies !!

[The Gaffer]

Waterford Crystal are on a high at present. They have only been beaten once this year in all competition (This was by Carrick in the Munster Junior Cup). As we know they are in the 1/4 of the FAI Junior Cup and have played 9 League Games

[Supersub]

There is a case to be made for every team ... Of the local teams , Carew have only been beaten once in the league(vs Pike) , Balla have suffered three defeats all season(two of them against Fview who are still the best team in the country) and Park have suffered one defeat in 90mins all season(there other defeat came on pens in MJC)

I am sure the other 3 teams left will have equally good records in their own leagues ...

There is a case to be made for and against all teams left in it. As the say "there are lies , damned lies and statistics" !!!!!

You can make the stats work for you any way like but it will come down to who plays well on the day and that little bit of luck !!!! Roll on the draw on saturday ....

[dasher]

Taken From Aertel on the RTE website

BALLYNANTY 2
KILLESTER UTD 3
WESTPORT 4
GALWAY HIBS 7
WATERFORD CRYSTAL 10
CAREW PARK 12
PARK RANGERS 14
BELLURGAN 14

[l.f.c......]

i have seen quiet alot of carew park games this season and it will take a very good team to beat them. they might not all have the skill of pike and fairview but they can play some lovely football just ask fairview 5_0 but carew have one thing i dont think any other team has in limerick thay an awful lot of heart they work so hard for each other they lost one league game this year against pike and anyone who was at that game will know carew should of beaten them about 5_2. if carew get a home draw on sat... they could nearly pull this fai out of the bag. :ball:

[guvnor]

i have seen quiet alot of carew park games this season and it will take a very good team to beat them. they might not all have the skill of pike and fairview but they can play some lovely football just ask fairview 5_0 but carew have one thing i dont think any other team has in limerick thay an awful lot of heart they work so hard for each other they lost one league game this year against pike and anyone who was at that game will know carew should of beaten them about 5_2. if carew get a home draw on sat... they could nearly pull this fai out of the bag. :ball:

But what happens if they get drawn away to balla or park - who they play regularly and they go a goal down and they start fighting with each other..(very unusual to actually happen!!!) I agree they have a great heart and spirit very like Park which I think has brought both teams this far. They both might not have the individuals like there near neighbours but when it comes to cup football its teams like park and carew that want it most will come through.

[striker]

i have seen quiet alot of carew park games this season and it will take a very good team to beat them. they might not all have the skill of pike and fairview but they can play some lovely football just ask fairview 5_0 but carew have one thing i dont think any other team has in limerick thay an awful lot of heart they work so hard for each other they lost one league game this year against pike and anyone who was at that game will know carew should of beaten them about 5_2. if carew get a home draw on sat... they could nearly pull this fai out of the bag. :ball:


seen a few carew games too, if things go badly wrong for them they bicker and fight, discepline is a concern for me,if teams can upset them they could come out on top,but i do agree that they can win it,but all 8 teams must be thinking that too.

[striker]

[QUOTE=guvnor]But what happens if they get drawn away to balla or park - who they play regularly and they go a goal down and they start fighting with each other..(very unusual to actually happen!!!) I agree they have a great heart and spirit very like Park which I think has brought both teams this far. They both might not have the individuals like there near neighbours but when it comes to cup football its teams like park and carew that want it most will come through.[/QUOTE


guvner its said your a park man do you play,would ye prefer carew out their, ye had some very tence games in the past no love lost,i think it would be the tie of the round

[Goals4fun]

For the others, I think that lack of national finals experience will be a killer. :ball:

In Parks instance they might have had major success in nationals recently but if you were to investigate the history of a few of their players you would see that there is a few Fai winners medals and some MJC medals also. Not to speak of some winner Oscar Traynor medals and well as some league of ireland experience. A book shouldn't be judged by it's cover !!
I am sure the fact is similar with the other clubs left in the hat where players have different experience.
The draw will be interesting !

[backodanet]

The draw will take place at 4pm saturday in the pike club as planned

[l.f.c......]

what you said is right carew park do start to fight with each other when things are not going there way in the past. this season carew park has changed there is less fighting and more encourging that is why there having such a good season. to answer your question about what happens if they draw balla or park well i was talking to balla players and the last team they want is carew park it would be a very good game. as for park there is something between park and carew every sine philip purcell elbowed albert slattery on purpose in the face which he got 14 stichs in his lip since that it has been very very heated between the two club that happened last season and philip purcell has not turned up to play carew the four times since that happened (the corward) but mark my word knowing albert if he has to wait until the over 40,s to get him he will i would not like to be at the end of the tackle when or if he fianlly turns up :ball:

[guvnor]

what you said is right carew park do start to fight with each other when things are not going there way in the past. this season carew park has changed there is less fighting and more encourging that is why there having such a good season. to answer your question about what happens if they draw balla or park well i was talking to balla players and the last team they want is carew park it would be a very good game. as for park there is something between park and carew every sine philip purcell elbowed albert slattery on purpose in the face which he got 14 stichs in his lip since that it has been very very heated between the two club that happened last season and philip purcell has not turned up to play carew the four times since that happened (the corward) but mark my word knowing albert if he has to wait until the over 40,s to get him he will i would not like to be at the end of the tackle when or if he fianlly turns up :ball:

Just to correct you on that last point, little albert jumped up for a header with Phillip and headered his elbow..there was nothing intentional about it. If you have played football before, you would know that you jump with your elbows and in this case it was a pure accident. Phillip Purcell is not the type of player to start fights. The way albert reacted to it was disgraceful and some of the words he mouthed off after the match were disgraceful also. Its sad to think he will hold his grudge forever. With regards to the match if they drew each other - lets just say it would be interesting.

[CousinSylDolan]

[QUOTE=l.f.c......(the corward) but mark my word knowing albert if he has to wait until the over 40,s to get him he will i would not like to be at the end of the tackle when or if he fianlly turns up :ball:[/QUOTE]

Will you cut out that kinda talk for God's sake. There is no need for it.

By saying stuff like that I think you are proving correct what Guvnor was saying earlier.
If Carew do meet Park in the quarter final I would hope it to be a good tough/fair game and let the best team win it.

[Supersub]

what you said is right carew park do start to fight with each other when things are not going there way in the past. this season carew park has changed there is less fighting and more encourging that is why there having such a good season. to answer your question about what happens if they draw balla or park well i was talking to balla players and the last team they want is carew park it would be a very good game. as for park there is something between park and carew every sine philip purcell elbowed albert slattery on purpose in the face which he got 14 stichs in his lip since that it has been very very heated between the two club that happened last season and philip purcell has not turned up to play carew the four times since that happened (the corward) but mark my word knowing albert if he has to wait until the over 40,s to get him he will i would not like to be at the end of the tackle when or if he fianlly turns up :ball:

I think it is better to say nothing on a subject if you do not know anything about it. LFC you have shown a lot of ignorance coming on to the site and bad mouthing a player , whom if you knew anything about local soccer(you obviously don't) you would know is not that type of player.

I was there that night and I spoke to players involved with both sides after the game and the general consensus among those players was that it was a freak accident. There was no intent and while the injury was a bad one it happens in the game.

Both players jumped for the ball , Albert had a running start from the left side of Purcell ... Both players had their elbows raised(as does everyone when jumping for the ball) and Albert literally ran into Purcells. End of story , no intent whatsoever.

I think you are bang out of order and should retract the statement. Players should not be bad mouthed on this site and I believe you are bang out of order!!!!

Would be interested to hear if there was anyone else at that game that night who has an opinion on the incident. I am sure that there will be a few posts attesting to Purcells excellent conduct on the field of play for many years ..

Expect to hear from you soon L.F.C!!

[guvnor]

Since you know a lot about this incident Guvnor can you explain why Purcell refuses to play against Carew ! If he was half a man he'd turn up and get on with playing ball !

Who said he refuses to play against Carew??? word has it that P Purcell goes swimming out in roxboro twice a week so he cant be that afraid of Carew Park!!

[Supersub]

Since you know a lot about this incident Guvnor can you explain why Purcell refuses to play against Carew ! If he was half a man he'd turn up and get on with playing ball !

For the record , Purcell did play against carew since that game ... Check the records lads !!!!!!!!!

[cleansheetagain]

I think it is better to say nothing on a subject if you do not know anything about it. LFC you have shown a lot of ignorance coming on to the site and bad mouthing a player , whom if you knew anything about local soccer(you obviously don't) you would know is not that type of player.

I was there that night and I spoke to players involved with both sides after the game and the general consensus among those players was that it was a freak accident. There was no intent and while the injury was a bad one it happens in the game.

Both players jumped for the ball , Albert had a running start from the left side of Purcell ... Both players had their elbows raised(as does everyone when jumping for the ball) and Albert literally ran into Purcells. End of story , no intent whatsoever.

I think you are bang out of order and should retract the statement. Players should not be bad mouthed on this site and I believe you are bang out of order!!!!

Would be interested to hear if there was anyone else at that game that night who has an opinion on the incident. I am sure that there will be a few posts attesting to Purcells excellent conduct on the field of play for many years ..

Expect to hear from you soon L.F.C!!



i was their that night standing with carew lads and they were also in the opinion that it was an accident and philly was not that type of player.

as you have started mentioning names l.f.c. which i agree with supersub that it is out of order,what albert slatery done and said that night was a totat discrace,needed stitches and still waited 30 minutes to asault pilly,if their was a stronger ref on the night i have no dought he would be out of football for a very long time,and then to find out he followed a granville player 10 yard trethening and mouthing abuse at him a week or two later, what are the refs up to,

[cleansheetagain]

I think it is better to say nothing on a subject if you do not know anything about it. LFC you have shown a lot of ignorance coming on to the site and bad mouthing a player , whom if you knew anything about local soccer(you obviously don't) you would know is not that type of player.

I was there that night and I spoke to players involved with both sides after the game and the general consensus among those players was that it was a freak accident. There was no intent and while the injury was a bad one it happens in the game.

Both players jumped for the ball , Albert had a running start from the left side of Purcell ... Both players had their elbows raised(as does everyone when jumping for the ball) and Albert literally ran into Purcells. End of story , no intent whatsoever.

I think you are bang out of order and should retract the statement. Players should not be bad mouthed on this site and I believe you are bang out of order!!!!

Would be interested to hear if there was anyone else at that game that night who has an opinion on the incident. I am sure that there will be a few posts attesting to Purcells excellent conduct on the field of play for many years ..

Expect to hear from you soon L.F.C!!


albert will be very happy with you telling everyone that he holds grudges and will wait years to get him,narrow minded people hold grudges and sportsmen shouldnt coppon lfc

[cleansheetagain]

Since you know a lot about this incident Guvnor can you explain why Purcell refuses to play against Carew ! If he was half a man he'd turn up and get on with playing ball !

i know alot of carew lads but i also know philly,and he would not be afraid to play against carew,if albert was half a man he would stop holding grudges,if i was a park man i would want to meet them cos all they'll want is to get him witch would result in a few sendings off,

[backodanet]

i would not normally stick up for Park Rgs or PP but I was told by someone who was at the match it was not intentional but in defence of AS if you get a smack in the mouth that starts bleeding the last thing u think about is "oh that was probably an accident" first thing is complete rage ........but waiting 30mins to start again is not on - this has to be down to the people around him tell him was an accident instead of winding him up.......... it's not like he is the cleanest most sporting player in the world

[kingpin]

how about yee all let this whole issue drop, and get back to talking about football again? I thought this page was about the f.a.i junior cup 2005 and not about the limerick league?

[striker]

what you said is right carew park do start to fight with each other when things are not going there way in the past. this season carew park has changed there is less fighting and more encourging that is why there having such a good season. to answer your question about what happens if they draw balla or park well i was talking to balla players and the last team they want is carew park it would be a very good game. as for park there is something between park and carew every sine philip purcell elbowed albert slattery on purpose in the face which he got 14 stichs in his lip since that it has been very very heated between the two club that happened last season and philip purcell has not turned up to play carew the four times since that happened (the corward) but mark my word knowing albert if he has to wait until the over 40,s to get him he will i would not like to be at the end of the tackle when or if he fianlly turns up :ball:


do u play with carew lfc u seem to know albert slatery well,so all that was said about carew must be true,fight,bicker and hold grudges,just on the nameing of persons on this site u should know better,

on philly purcill i think he's one of the top and most respected players in the league,a gentleman and will not like his name taken on this site,


on the other person involved (i wont name him thats your job)any time hes mentioned it goes somthing like,very good and tallented player but how is he getting away with what he does week in and week out.

i wonder is it that the refs dont want any trouble in the future,as u said, u know the grudges.

[striker]

how about yee all let this whole issue drop, and get back to talking about football again? I thought this page was about the f.a.i junior cup 2005 and not about the limerick league?


i agree kingpin, but some issues need taking care of asap,what lfc said he said was wrong and i think he just wanted to start something in the event of the two being drawn against each other,


if the player in question is reading this site dont worry,their only trying to frighten you they must be worried,

[striker]

i would not normally stick up for Park Rgs or PP but I was told by someone who was at the match it was not intentional but in defence of AS if you get a smack in the mouth that starts bleeding the last thing u think about is "oh that was probably an accident" first thing is complete rage ........but waiting 30mins to start again is not on - this has to be down to the people around him tell him was an accident instead of winding him up.......... it's not like he is the cleanest most sporting player in the world


well said....!!!!

[Thunderblaster]

how about yee all let this whole issue drop, and get back to talking about football again? I thought this page was about the f.a.i junior cup 2005 and not about the limerick league?

Park Rangers and Carew Park would sound like one helluva game going by some of the posts. With 37.5% of the teams left in the draw, it is inevitable that Limerick sides would dominate the forum. Westport United and Castlebar Celtic has a serious rivalry but both sides do not bring up bad issues from the past, apart from "offside goals". Both clubs do have a laugh on some of the past incidents and the last serious injury in the fixture came from a Westport player celebrating a goal that was disallowed for offside many years ago. :ball: :)

[willy mcspud]

yea lets drop the pp and as issue i was there and it was total accident end of story lfc should know better they played against eachother at park semi-final cup last year.
Anyway lets hope al limerick sides avoid eachother in the draw. I wouldnt think anyone would fancy a trip to shannon.

[Supersub]

Draw for 1/4 Finals was made today ...

Waterford Crystal v Park Rangers
Killester v Westport Utd
Carew Park v Ballynanty Rovrs
Galway Hibs v Bellurgan

The two ties of the round have to be Killester v Wstprt and the all Limerick clash ...

The Mayo side could have been slightly agrieved at not getting a home tie after knocking out Pike and if they are to go on and win it will have to do so the hard way !!

Limerick tie is anybodys guess ... This "pundit" will plump for Balla as man for man they are the better of the two teams but there will nothing in it !!

Galway Hibs will be hot favs to outgun Bellurgan but it is "a funny old game".

As for the other game , this one is also a hard one to call but with home advantage you would have to fancy the more experienced Waterford side ..

In summary 1/2 finalists should look like this

Waterford Cry , Killester , Balla & Galway Hibs ....

Hope I am wrong and Park go through to semi and we can have two reps in last four !!!

What the rest of ye think ?????

[cleansheetagain]

Park Rangers and Carew Park would sound like one helluva game going by some of the posts. With 37.5% of the teams left in the draw, it is inevitable that Limerick sides would dominate the forum. Westport United and Castlebar Celtic has a serious rivalry but both sides do not bring up bad issues from the past, apart from "offside goals". Both clubs do have a laugh on some of the past incidents and the last serious injury in the fixture came from a Westport player celebrating a goal that was disallowed for offside many years ago. :ball: :)


you have no idea thunderblaster,

[striker]

galway hibs,balla,park and westport for the 1/2 wwhat ye think.

[cleansheetagain]

Draw for 1/4 Finals was made today ...

Waterford Crystal v Park Rangers
Killester v Westport Utd
Carew Park v Ballynanty Rovrs
Galway Hibs v Bellurgan

The two ties of the round have to be Killester v Wstprt and the all Limerick clash ...

The Mayo side could have been slightly agrieved at not getting a home tie after knocking out Pike and if they are to go on and win it will have to do so the hard way !!

Limerick tie is anybodys guess ... This "pundit" will plump for Balla as man for man they are the better of the two teams but there will nothing in it !!

Galway Hibs will be hot favs to outgun Bellurgan but it is "a funny old game".

As for the other game , this one is also a hard one to call but with home advantage you would have to fancy the more experienced Waterford side ..

In summary 1/2 finalists should look like this

Waterford Cry , Killester , Balla & Galway Hibs ....

Hope I am wrong and Park go through to semi and we can have two reps in last four !!!

What the rest of ye think ?????


what a draw ,carew at home where will it be played,they must be happy with that,but balla will be happy two, football wise it will be a bad game,managers doing homework i think balla will win it.

[The Gaffer]

Anyone tell me anything about Park Rangers? I believe they are managed by Tommy Lynch

[backodanet]

Well judging by the roar the carew park lads let out when balla came out of the hat they are over the moon with the draw
3/4 ex balla players playing against their old team

i'd go with killester, park galway hibs and A N Other

[Goals4fun]

I wonder if the odds have changed much after the draw ? Anybody got them and want to post them ??

[widow]

ya I'd fancy park against waterford crystal, saw them against granville looked very average, at home they might be different though, carew park v balla, I'd say carew park are slight favourites as balla aren't playing well at the moment, but its all on the day, interesting to see who or how many will be sent off, that will have a major say in the outcome

[cleansheetagain]

ya I'd fancy park against waterford crystal, saw them against granville looked very average, at home they might be different though, carew park v balla, I'd say carew park are slight favourites as balla aren't playing well at the moment, but its all on the day, interesting to see who or how many will be sent off, that will have a major say in the outcome


wonder what the odds are for no sendings off 2000/1 ha ha