View Full Version : O'Neill 'to quit' Shamrock Rovers
adamd164
11/12/2011, 9:53 AM
Today's Sindo claims talks broke down yesterday and he's not signing a new deal with them.
(http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/oneill-to-quit-hoops-this-week-after-final-euro-fling-2960323.html)
O'Neill to quit Hoops this week after final Euro fling
By CATHAL DERVAN
Sunday December 11 2011
Michael O'Neill will quit as manager of Shamrock Rovers after Thursday night's Europa League visit of Tottenham Hotspur to Tallaght Stadium.
The Sunday Independent has learned that the 42-year-old has decided to seek a fresh start elsewhere after final talks on a new deal with the Rovers board broke down in Dublin yesterday afternoon.
O'Neill's three-year spell in charge of the revitalised Hoops will come to an end when the 2011 season draws to a close with the final Europa League Group A fixture against Spurs.
Sources close to O'Neill have confirmed that he has no alternative job lined up and that he was keen to remain with Rovers after winning two league titles and the Setanta Cup since his arrival from Brechin City in 2009.
But it is understood that differences in opinion over the direction Rovers will take after their European breakthrough this season caused a rift between O'Neill and the board.
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http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/oneill-to-quit-hoops-this-week-after-final-euro-fling-2960323.html
born2bwild
11/12/2011, 9:56 AM
Pete Mahon next? *snigger*
Alan Mathews? *horrifed intake of breath*
Kenny Cuningham's name was being thrown around the other day in relation to Bohs....
Dunny
11/12/2011, 10:11 AM
Ach ffs, I enjoy his weekly slurring on MNS :(
born2bwild
11/12/2011, 10:15 AM
But it is understood that differences in opinion over the direction Rovers will take after their European breakthrough this season caused a rift between O'Neill and the board
If differences in opinion boil down to MON: "Let me spend more money" Board:"No" etc then this is a good day for the league as a whole.
adamd164
11/12/2011, 10:35 AM
That's pretty much the obvious interpretation of it; he wanted to 'invest' the money they earned this year on wages. They're better off letting him go if that was the case.
Sam_Heggy
11/12/2011, 11:37 AM
Alan Mathews? *horrifed intake of breath*
That would be a great appointment for Rovers to be honest. He done a great job at Shels and had them playing some lovely football.
Id say if MON leaves Rovers they would look outside the league for a replacement.
Spudulika
11/12/2011, 11:42 AM
Looks like the old "manager wants to invest in squad" tinge is being put on this story from the off, of course there's no evidence for this but that's never stopped the gossip.
It would be interesting if he turned up in Dundalk tomorrow to take control of the club.
TangyZizzle
11/12/2011, 12:04 PM
MON not getting his way with regards the money that the club is bringing in is the obvious interpretation, alright. I wouldn't be too worried about AM being coaxed away from Shels right now as Shamrock will most likely look outside the league for a replacement.
Mario
11/12/2011, 12:56 PM
This is the same board who sacked Roddy, hired Scully, let him leave after 3 seasons, hired MON and are now letting him walk too after 3 seasons for the same reason Scully was let walk ... looking for mad money!
I have a feeling they might have someone in mind to replace MON already. There are plenty of high profile, experienced managers out there on the dole who would I am sure like to fancy the job.
MagicMon
11/12/2011, 12:57 PM
Roddy Collins?
:p
sligoman
11/12/2011, 1:11 PM
Rico looking to get back into management?
No doubting he loves Shams anyway!
Spudulika
11/12/2011, 2:01 PM
Rico would be a good fit, any Cork fans I know will say he was good with the club and brought through some good young lads. Though it might be better for Rovers to go outside of Ireland, and the UK reject pool, to get someone decent. Guus Hiddink? Seriously though, the club could get a very good coach from the continent given their standing.
osarusan
11/12/2011, 2:15 PM
I'm not so sure continental managers would be interested. While Rovers themselves are a good team in terms of players and facilities, they'll be playing away in grounds like Monaghan's and UCD's. I'd say it would be hard to bring in a manager of any real quality, and despite their admirable achievements this year, they're by no means guaranteed Europa league football next season, without which there is nothing a manager would want to put on his CV.
The old 'quit' angle eh. Pretty hard to quit something when you aren't the manager anymore and not been given a new contract. Fintan Drury's been pimping O'Neill around with no takers. Funny reading O'Neill say the other week he never asked to be interviewed for the Hibs job. Perhaps that was because Drury approached Hibs and told them O'Neill wanted double what Nutsy's on at the moment to be considered. Personally O'Neill being in charge has diluted some of the pleasure of winning the league/taking part in Europa league this season. Here's one happy Hoop who'll enjoy Christmas a bit more this year.
poster
11/12/2011, 3:36 PM
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.....
ooooo.
Red4Eva
11/12/2011, 3:37 PM
Gutted :(
Spudulika
11/12/2011, 4:54 PM
I'm not so sure continental managers would be interested. While Rovers themselves are a good team in terms of players and facilities, they'll be playing away in grounds like Monaghan's and UCD's. I'd say it would be hard to bring in a manager of any real quality, and despite their admirable achievements this year, they're by no means guaranteed Europa league football next season, without which there is nothing a manager would want to put on his CV.
Osarusan, I agree with you to a very, very large degree, but there is also security in Rovers. What I mean is that there are some very useful coaches, who can add to what Rovers have right now, and who'd happily land in Ireland because they know they'll be paid at the end of the month and the players too. I was at a football expo last month and in a discussion with a contact from Greece, he told me some scary stories of what's happening around the place (Greece, Cyprus, Italy, Portugal, Spain) to name the ones where he has players and/or coaches under contract. Here in Russia you have really good coaches and players whose clubs can't pay them (Volga NN no wages for anyone for 6 months, Tom for 7 months - with the club unfunded from January, and on). So if you look at it, the coach will get national champions, playing in CL next year and with money. It might just work.
Charlie Darwin
11/12/2011, 5:12 PM
Sean Connor's the man for me.
In all seriousness, the club will have been looking at other options for months now. Michael O'Neill's done an incredible job for the club but the board won't be held to ransom by anybody. I think they'll be looking outside the LOI too.
nigel-harps1954
11/12/2011, 5:21 PM
Richard Sadlier?
Spudulika
11/12/2011, 5:27 PM
Richie? Nah, imagine sitting in the board/dressing room listening to his endless list of "former team mates" who did this and that. Paul Cook? Would be a good fit and he puts out (except in cup finals) a good brand of football.
legendz
11/12/2011, 6:24 PM
If differences in opinion boil down to MON: "Let me spend more money" Board:"No" etc then this is a good day for the league as a whole.
If that is the case, I agree. From what I've seen MON has done a good job but if he doesn't want to continue within the finances available, he's right to leave and the club are right to say no. I'm sure MON has a vision for how he wants to bring the club forward. I suppose previous champions have had those visions as well and we all know what's happened them.
Dewie101
11/12/2011, 7:14 PM
Sligo could learn a lesson or two from this, like bohs and shels before them... they wont. Rovers baord the leading light for this league, Mon wanting stupid money, knowning what our finacial game is. on your bike son.
poster
11/12/2011, 7:50 PM
I thought he was the bestest manager just EVER?
Rover'n'out
11/12/2011, 7:53 PM
Sligo could learn a lesson or two from this, like bohs and shels before them... they wont. Rovers baord the leading light for this league, Mon wanting stupid money, knowning what our finacial game is. on your bike son.
Christ, what would we all do without Shams to show us the way. We at Sligo Rovers simply havent got a clue - please may we take a leaf from your oh so knowledgeable book before we are doomed, doomed I say.
Dewie101
11/12/2011, 8:07 PM
Christ, what would we all do without Shams to show us the way. We at Sligo Rovers simply havent got a clue - please may we take a leaf from your oh so knowledgeable book before we are doomed, doomed I say.
its not hidden knowledge Sligo have upped their budget for the new season, when your on a budget similar to a team with a much bigger turnover it wont end pretty if you do a "leeds" on it and chase the "dream"... very few clubs seem to be learning that you shouldnt spend on the hope you can win trophies in the near future, which seems to be the policy at Sligo, not a dig, just reality, Cooke is obviously a persuasive character. We're all trying to rid the league of this nonsense, hence the Rovers stance on O'Neil.
poster
11/12/2011, 8:10 PM
Part of the reason that our budget has gone up is that we only received monies owed to us from last year's (2010) double cup win and 3rd place finish recently. It's plain and simple, a club receives money, some of it is going to go towards the playing budget.
Sean South
11/12/2011, 8:15 PM
Fair play to Shams once again showing everyone how it should be done... The league needs a strong Shamrock.
Rover'n'out
11/12/2011, 8:53 PM
its not hidden knowledge Sligo have upped their budget for the new season, when your on a budget similar to a team with a much bigger turnover it wont end pretty if you do a "leeds" on it and chase the "dream"... very few clubs seem to be learning that you shouldnt spend on the hope you can win trophies in the near future, which seems to be the policy at Sligo, not a dig, just reality, Cooke is obviously a persuasive character. We're all trying to rid the league of this nonsense, hence the Rovers stance on O'Neil.
I have to laugh when some Shams supporter seems to think they know what our budget might or should be. The fact is we are not the type of club who bites off more than we can chew. We have had our debt problems in the past but have now paid this debt off. We have a very prudent treasurer and a commitee that knows only too well the perils of over spending. At the beginning of last season we let Boco off because he was looking for a better contract than we could afford and word is we had discussions with Killian Brennan and similarly would not pay the kind of money he was looking for. Apart from our gates, we are a club who are have terrific support from the community of Sligo town, county and beyond so you and other Shams supporters who worry that we are in over our heads should relax. Thanks for your concern but try and concentrate on your own affairs. For what it is worth I could not agree more with you on the policy of not letting a manager overspend beyond a clubs capabilities.
redobit
11/12/2011, 9:14 PM
Its quite unbelivable the way some Shams fans think that they are this leading light and every body should just row in behind their lead without question. It must be great for the new Shams fans not to be able to know the lean times but God forbid somthing might go wrong cause ye wont know what to do with yourselves.
Sam_Heggy
11/12/2011, 9:35 PM
. Here in Russia you have really good coaches and players whose clubs can't pay them (Volga NN no wages for anyone for 6 months, Tom for 7 months - with the club unfunded from January, and on). So if you look at it, the coach will get national champions, playing in CL next year and with money. It might just work.
TNB has moved to Russia? A bit drastic isn't it?
askmehoop
11/12/2011, 11:30 PM
O'Neill acting the maggot with contract demands, he kept his options open while the Hibs job was available, they wouldnt give him what he wanted and thankfully neither did our board. Sorry its ended(if it has) this way as MON has been fantastic for the club, but we will move onwards and upwards without him. I'd say himself and magilton may do a double act with the Nordies. Wonder if Paul 'anyone for cheap fags' Cook has sent in his CV yet. Hopefully we will look beyond the usual avenues for a manager, noone left over here capable of continuing on with our onfield success, but im sure we'll have plenty of interest in the job.
shellyriver
11/12/2011, 11:51 PM
Wonder if Paul 'anyone for cheap fags' Cook has sent in his CV yet.
Comedy and/or common sense ain't your strong suit.
Board and O'Neill masters of reverse pyschology -- Tottenham most probably now quaking in their boots of a squad of hungry Shams players.
Seriously disappointed O'Neill has parted ways, Shams just might put out a footballing team in 2012.:waiting:
Charlie Darwin
12/12/2011, 12:09 AM
I don't think Cook would apply for the job but I wonder if he could resist if he was offered it. He's certainly the best manager left in the league.
I'm sure MON has a vision for how he wants to bring the club forward.
a very blurry, gee-eyed vision!
Good riddance to him if he goes and Shams dead right to be calling his bluff.
Spudulika
12/12/2011, 5:29 AM
TNB has moved to Russia? A bit drastic isn't it?
Well, it is in Siberia - christ, now I'm going to watch their next (if they're still in existence) media conference in case he turns up crying and telling everyone he's done his best. I missed most of TNB's antics last time around, maybe it'll be better on a bigger stage :-)
marinobohs
12/12/2011, 10:31 AM
Its quite unbelivable the way some Shams fans think that they are this leading light and every body should just row in behind their lead without question. It must be great for the new Shams fans not to be able to know the lean times but God forbid somthing might go wrong cause ye wont know what to do with yourselves.
Find another bandwagon ? :D
Much ado about little. shams board offered MON a new contract some time back. He (and/or his representative) felt he was worth more and called their bluff, nothing to do with "prudent" wage structure (except RE managers salary:o).
MON was very successfull - results wise, but never endeared himself to a section of the shams fanbase. Shams will be recruiting from a strong position and I would not be surprised to see Brian Kerr take over (possibly with Johnny mac in tow).
Jicked
12/12/2011, 10:56 AM
Personally O'Neill being in charge has diluted some of the pleasure of winning the league/taking part in Europa league this season. Here's one happy Hoop who'll enjoy Christmas a bit more this year.
And yet Roddy Collins was carried from the pitch by some of our idiot fans after fluking a rare win when he was in charge of us.
Let's hope the new boss does a lot of badge kissing and fawning programme notes.
Longfordian
12/12/2011, 10:58 AM
Twitter rumours of Paul Doolin taking over. Can't see it personally.
TiocfaidhArmani
12/12/2011, 12:16 PM
Its quite unbelivable the way some Shams fans think that they are this leading light and every body should just row in behind their lead without question. It must be great for the new Shams fans not to be able to know the lean times but God forbid somthing might go wrong cause ye wont know what to do with yourselves.
Yeah run away from your debt, start building a ground, leave it like a building site complaining you haven't the money to actually build anything and pray the council bails you out. However do they do. The model club.
Yeah run away from your debt, start building a ground, leave it like a building site complaining you haven't the money to actually build anything and pray the council bails you out. However do they do. The model club.
From a shels fan. Seriously?
askmehoop
12/12/2011, 1:29 PM
Find another bandwagon ? :D
Much ado about little. shams board offered MON a new contract some time back. He (and/or his representative) felt he was worth more and called their bluff, nothing to do with "prudent" wage structure (except RE managers salary:o).
MON was very successfull - results wise, but never endeared himself to a section of the shams fanbase. Shams will be recruiting from a strong position and I would not be surprised to see Brian Kerr take over (possibly with Johnny mac in tow).
you'd swear its the first time people ' got on the bandwagon' when a Irish team are successful. Long may it continue, we've gained plenty of new genuine fans. Think your right about MON and sections of support, 3 trophys in 3 years and euro success is'nt enough for some people it would seem. We have got a set financial structure in place, i know thats difficult for a Bohs fan to comprehend ;) , MON and his agent simply wanted too much and thats something he will regret.
If his agent is the problem, then the Kerr rumours are going to way wide of the mark
From a shels fan. Seriously?
He's obviously had a traumatic Rovers related event in his past. I reckon he was threatened by some 15 year olds on the LUAS, or someone stuck an Ultras sticker over one of his Na Fianna Eireann posters:D
Lim till i die
12/12/2011, 2:25 PM
Few things in this thread -
Sligo fans, I've thought about this a bit.
Whatever about putting up your budget being stupid, the fact that your chairman stated publicly that you've put up the budget is stupid, just stupid.
People (I forget who) touting Alan Matthews for the Rovers job?? Lol as they say on the internet.
Also, Dodge is spot on on the Kerr thing. I can't see where the Kerr rumour is coming from if there's any truth to the agent rumour.
Which can only mean theres an untrue rumour floating around. :eek: :eek: :eek:
Charlie Darwin
12/12/2011, 2:46 PM
Whether or not his agent is pricing him out of a contract, leaking the story to the papers looks to have seriously backfired. Assuming it was meant to elicit sympathy and force the board's hand, they've succeeded only in revealing that Rovers fans are (rightly or wrongly) fairly ambivalent about whether he stays on or not.
askmehoop
12/12/2011, 3:24 PM
Platinum 1 represent MON, former Platinum 1 Board member now on the board at Hibs, knows how they work wouldnt give into wage demands, MON comes crawlying back, no dice.
redobit
12/12/2011, 4:36 PM
Sligo fans, I've thought about this a bit.
Whatever about putting up your budget being stupid, the fact that your chairman stated publicly that you've put up the budget is stupid, just stupid.
Did you ever consider that the Chairman of the club might know a few truths regarding the budget that you dont? Hence he can make the statment.
There are a 3 or 4 good solid reasons, imo, why and how the budget can/ will be increased. Im sure they will come out when everything is finalised. Until then you keep making your mind up based on tabloid and forum comments.
And yet Roddy Collins was carried from the pitch by some of our idiot fans after fluking a rare win when he was in charge of us.
Let's hope the new boss does a lot of badge kissing and fawning programme notes.
No Roddy fan but to compare the two scenarios is just idiotic. O'Neill's had the best squad by a mile in the league last two seasons and earned the most money EVER paid to a manager here last season. The league should've been won both times weeks before they were, and there was no excuse not to play a better brand of football with the players we had.
MMVIII
12/12/2011, 5:36 PM
[QUOTE=askmehoop;1559632] , MON and his agent simply wanted too much and thats something he will regret.
According to one of the papers today (can't remember which one) MON has raked in a whooping €500,000 in his three years at Shams. Suprised he's not already satisfied on that money.
shellyriver
12/12/2011, 6:01 PM
Few things in this thread -
Sligo fans, I've thought about this a bit.
Whatever about putting up your budget being stupid, the fact that your chairman stated publicly that you've put up the budget is stupid, just stupid.
Obviously, didn't think too hard.
First of many aspects which reveal a thread-bare logic, just consider pretty much everything, that has been stated already by Sligo fans on this topic.
Second, what would you prefer, 'buckshee double - under the table contracts' -- now where have we seen those?
Anyways, back to thread, even though MON was one of the most miserable, dour and unimaginative managers before camera - he has achieved great success, particularly the EUROPA games.
Best of luck to him in the future. I'm sure there will be plenty of would be candidates -- however, Paul Cook won't be one:worship:
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