O'Neill 'to quit' Shamrock Rovers [Archive] - Page 3

Rasputin

14/12/2011, 9:07 PM

Well, the board are then putting up the budget on the assumption that they made a profit from last season without actually knowing for sure? Makes it even more crazy.
Haha wow even for this site your stupidity is breath taking.
The board know last seasons finances, I was merely pointing out that the posters here dont and anything else is idle speculation.
Really quite breath taking you came to that conclusion.

Rasputin

14/12/2011, 9:09 PM

Because I start fundraising threads? Suppose if they're removed it clears the way for the annual Sligo 'handouts wanted' thread.
Really? I dont question you, they are probably all floating about with all those facts vindicating your "Harps regularly out-numbered the home fans in the showgies".

shellyriver

14/12/2011, 10:45 PM

Because I start fundraising threads? Suppose if they're removed it clears the way for the annual Sligo 'handouts wanted' thread.

Warning -- only those with logic and irony deficit should give this nonsense a second look.

Rover'n'out

14/12/2011, 10:55 PM

Gone seriously off topic here lads. As regards O'Neill leaving Shams, some sportscaster talking today that if O'Neill gets NI job in front of Magilton then the latter might be offered Shamrock Rovers job?

culloty82

21/12/2011, 1:32 PM

Seems Kenny has been in talks with Shamrock Rovers for the last 48 hours, so could be confirmed in the coming days.

Macy

21/12/2011, 1:52 PM

Seems Kenny has been in talks with Shamrock Rovers for the last 48 hours, so could be confirmed in the coming days.
And the Tallaght Town takeover actually comes to fruition....

Sam_Heggy

21/12/2011, 3:56 PM

Shouldn't you or Mr Anus be off begging Dahamsta for a new fund raising thread.
Not enough that he removed three of them until he finally capitulated.;)
At least the persistence paid off.

Can we ask Dahamsta to re-open the Dumbass thread?

This sort of childish sh!te on here just turns everyone against Sligo Rovers and I know for a fact that, contrary to the behaviour of some of the Sligo posters on here, the vast majority of Sligo fans are sound. Such a pity.

Sam_Heggy

21/12/2011, 3:57 PM

Back on topic(ish), it looks like the muckers are already looking at options to replace Kenny with Pizza mentioned as a potential candidate.

askmehoop

21/12/2011, 5:33 PM

http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/soccer/2011/1221/1224309370990.html

SRFC board member saying we are nowhere near appointing a manager, could be a smoke screen incase an agreement cant be met

horton

22/12/2011, 9:52 AM

askmehoop

22/12/2011, 11:05 AM

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2011/1222/1224309380751.html

(http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2011/1222/1224309380751.html)If he goes, we get some money from Shams so that's something, although SK has in previous years threatened to leave to get a bigger budget so I reserve judgement just yet. The ultras forum shows just how fickle football fans can be, months ago they wanted SK and Zayed dead, now there commending SK's loyalty to his players and considering how good an addition to their team Zayed will be:D

he was offered the job before o'neill and turned it down at the last minute, rovers are a different prospect then we were 3 years ago so the offer might be more tempting. btw not all would be happy with SK's arrival or EZ possible arrival.

dfx-

22/12/2011, 11:39 AM

Kenny I've not much problem with. I remain to be convinced about Zayed in terms of ability. He wouldn't be my first, second or third choice to pilfer from the Brandywell. Even Eoin Doyle scored nearly 20 goals last season thanks to Galway/UCD. Zayed's sister however would have a lot of making up to do.

hoopy

22/12/2011, 6:36 PM

SK has in previous years threatened to leave to get a bigger budget so I reserve judgement just yet.

Seems that has happened today, or the promise of one to be precise.

askmehoop

23/12/2011, 6:53 AM

Looks like O'Neill will be named as the Nordie manager

Cuyahoga

23/12/2011, 7:34 AM

It wont be announced until New Year according to the BBC.

askmehoop

23/12/2011, 10:10 AM

He has been offered the job according to SSN.

adamd164

23/12/2011, 10:41 AM

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12019/7393073/O-Neill-offered-N-Ireland-job

horton

24/12/2011, 10:22 AM

Its now confirmed that Kennys left Derry. Good luck to him.

Dewie101

24/12/2011, 11:18 AM

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2011/1224/kennys_shamrockrovers.html

Kenny to take over at Shamrock Rovers Saturday, 24 December 2011 11:12
Stephen Kenny will be confirmed as Shamrock Rovers manager later today after reaching an agreement with the 2011 Premier Division champions.
Kenny will end a second spell in charge of Derry to join Rovers and replace Michael O'Neill as Hoops boss.
Rovers will pay Derry City compensation for Kenny's services.

Kenny has previously managed Dunfermline, Bohemians and Longford Town.

gufc2000

24/12/2011, 11:28 AM

Next question is who do Derry fancy to be their next manager?

Charlie Darwin

24/12/2011, 12:01 PM

Steve Staunton?

Flexy

24/12/2011, 12:58 PM

Steve Staunton?
NOT A CHANCE, and if DCFC ever bring back Traitor Kenny Ill not be bqck qt the Brandywell. Only two years ago the same man said he couldnt manage any other team in LOI, so Rovers do well with all their money and jumps ship. Well done Stephen.

My choice would be David Kelly played for us for a while in 2003, great first team coach with lots of experience

gormacha

24/12/2011, 1:08 PM

Charlie Darwin

24/12/2011, 2:30 PM

NOT A CHANCE, and if DCFC ever bring back Traitor Kenny Ill not be bqck qt the Brandywell. Only two years ago the same man said he couldnt manage any other team in LOI, so Rovers do well with all their money and jumps ship. Well done Stephen.
That seems like an odd thing to say considering he's spent most of his career managing other teams in the LOI. Not that he didn't say it, it just seems like a strange promise to make.

horton

24/12/2011, 2:41 PM

I know very little about Kenny outside of his obvious LOI career. Are the above quotes correct? I know he may have been born and bred in Tallaght, but Rovers weren't there at the time. Does he have the strong connection to Rovers that is being claimed? Or is it more of a smokescreen?

I think it's more family connections in Tallaght than SRFC to be honest. At the start of his time in Derry it was hard for him with his family being in Dublin, they moved up to Fahan, but given the oppurtunity to move back(it's a good 3 hour drive, and Fahans basically a village) nearer home to a good job, most people would take it! Managers come and go so it's not that big a deal, thankfully it's come about now rather than closer to the start of the season!

sullanefc

24/12/2011, 3:09 PM

So with all the talk of a long list of candidates, a manager coming from outside the league etc etc and they've only signed Stephen Kenny and the second choice was the UCD manager??? I was expecting a higher caliber manager with all the talk.

noddy102

24/12/2011, 3:25 PM

they've only signed Stephen Kenny and the second choice was the UCD manager???

What a retarded comment. The UCD manager who with by far the worst budget in the leagues won the first division over money driven Fingal and Shels. Who then maintained there PD status twice, even after losing 10 of his starting team. Don't be so blind.

Secondly good on Rovers for not throwing money about stupidly. Ok they have had to pay compensation for Kenny but that was going to be necessary unless they picked up a manager out of contract, and there are very few good ones not working.

Good appointment by Rovers, there not getting above themselves after one good result in Europe. Some sense in the league at last

mypost

24/12/2011, 8:54 PM

NOT A CHANCE, and if DCFC ever bring back Traitor Kenny Ill not be bqck qt the Brandywell. Well done Stephen.

They did bring him back. In 2008. I take it you went back then.

Back to the LOI merry-go-round for us after 5 years away. He doesn't come free, but he has a simple task, retain the league. So no pressure then.

sullanefc

25/12/2011, 12:02 AM

What a retarded comment. The UCD manager who with by far the worst budget in the leagues won the first division over money driven Fingal and Shels. Who then maintained there PD status twice, even after losing 10 of his starting team. Don't be so blind.

Secondly good on Rovers for not throwing money about stupidly. Ok they have had to pay compensation for Kenny but that was going to be necessary unless they picked up a manager out of contract, and there are very few good ones not working.

Good appointment by Rovers, there not getting above themselves after one good result in Europe. Some sense in the league at last

What a retarded choice of manager!!! A decent cup manager. That is all.

noddy102

25/12/2011, 12:22 AM

What a retarded choice of manager!!! A decent cup manager. That is all.

solid argument

Charlie Darwin

25/12/2011, 12:27 AM

noddy102

25/12/2011, 1:43 AM

Well I think it's a point that Kenny's been in a position to win the title and hasn't. Clearly the Rovers board reckons he's learned enough lessons that he can follow through this year. His CV is excellent.

My opinion is he regularly over achieves and when this happens people begin to think your under achieving. Sounds silly but think about it for a second.

Players like McGlynn and Higgins, for example, moved to Bohs and performed very poorly. Kenny on the other hand brings the best out of them. Zayed is another example. Not doing a huge amount for Fingal, and many would argue he isint all that great, yet Kenny produces a PFAI Player of the Year and the PD's top scorer.

My point is its very naive to think the best appointment is one from a foreign league just because those leagues might have a higher profile than the LOI. I for one would argue that choosing someone with knowledge of this league and not just looking at the club as a stepping stone is a very wise choice.

SwanVsDalton

25/12/2011, 1:52 AM

Managers come and go. All the best Stephen. Have no idea who we'll get in but options are limited (Peter Hutton, possibly with Felix Healy is one of the few realistic one's bandied around).

Flexy

25/12/2011, 5:17 PM

Managers come and go. All the best Stephen. Have no idea who we'll get in but options are limited (Peter Hutton, possibly with Felix Healy is one of the few realistic one's bandied around).
Kenny quit before to join a so called stronger league, which i didnt mind but to leave for one of your main title rivals is an insult to the fans of DCFC and the club. Too soon for Pizza to be full time manager and Felix and wellhe can stick it where sun dont shine. Bring at Dolan or David Kelly Kelly in

adamd164

25/12/2011, 5:50 PM

Players like McGlynn and Higgins, for example, moved to Bohs and performed very poorly. Kenny on the other hand brings the best out of them. Zayed is another example. Not doing a huge amount for Fingal, and many would argue he isint all that great, yet Kenny produces a PFAI Player of the Year and the PD's top scorer.

Meh, not a very convincing argument - what about the likes of Billy Dennehy who was shocking for Derry and when he joined us (and then Rovers) became one of the finest players in the league?

I've seen it said that Kenny's achievements were phenomenal with Derry given his budget in comparison to other sides - but which of his 2 budgets are people referring to?

poster

25/12/2011, 7:29 PM

Billy Dennehy who was shocking for Derry and when he joined us (and then Rovers) became one of the finest players in the league?

Eh, when?

Macy

25/12/2011, 7:35 PM

On extratime, Kenny's quoted as saying "its time to go home", and the Derry chairman intimates that Rovers are his home club as he was brought up in Tallaght.

I know very little about Kenny outside of his obvious LOI career. Are the above quotes correct? I know he may have been born and bred in Tallaght, but Rovers weren't there at the time. Does he have the strong connection to Rovers that is being claimed? Or is it more of a smokescreen?
He's from Tallaght afaik, and did play for Tallaght Town I think. Again, iirc he did at one point harbour ambitions to take Tallaght Town into the league. Whatever about traditionally, Rovers are now clearly the Tallaght team, but even if he wasn't a boyhood fan, maybe going home just means back to Dublin?

Ultimately though, LoI managers are no different to LoI players, and will do what's best for them. Not exactly the first time Kenny's left a club you'd think he'd have a strong affinity for, for a better offer, is it?

adamd164

25/12/2011, 7:51 PM

Eh, when?

When what?! Derry fans were cheering him out the door. If you mean him being one of the best players in the league, he'd stroll into Sligo's squad or any other.

noddy102

25/12/2011, 8:36 PM

[QUOTE=adamd164;1561803]Meh, not a very convincing argument - what about the likes of Billy Dennehy who was shocking for Derry and when he joined us (and then Rovers) became one of the finest players in the league?
[/QUOTE

What when he was 17/18?

Personally I dont rate Billy now so, unsurprisingly, im going to stick to my argument :)

adamd164

25/12/2011, 8:47 PM

thats me convinced anyway.

Btw, not suggesting Kenny is a bad manager at all. I think he'll do well. But there's already been more than enough spin surrounding Rovers.

mypost

25/12/2011, 9:01 PM

Kenny quit before to join a so called stronger league, which i didnt mind but to leave for one of your main title rivals is an insult to the fans of DCFC and the club.

After 3 league titles in a row, Jim McLaughlin left us to go to his hometown club. We dealt with it by adding another league title. Now the situation has reversed. I'm sure Derry will deal with it well too.

PartySaint

25/12/2011, 11:01 PM

My point is its very naive to think the best appointment is one from a foreign league just because those leagues might have a higher profile than the LOI. I for one would argue that choosing someone with knowledge of this league and not just looking at the club as a stepping stone is a very wise choice.

From what I heard, Kenny left because he wanted away from Derry not particularly because of what Rovers were offering

born2bwild

25/12/2011, 11:19 PM

From what I heard, Kenny left because he wanted away from Derry not particularly because of what Rovers were offering
I wouldn't live in Tallaght even if you threw in Georgia Salpa as my personal sex slave.

PartySaint

25/12/2011, 11:40 PM

I wouldn't live in Tallaght even if you threw in Georgia Salpa as my personal sex slave.

He doesn't have to live there;)

Dewie101

26/12/2011, 10:36 AM

After 3 league titles in a row, Jim McLaughlin left us to go to his hometown club. We dealt with it by adding another league title. Now the situation has reversed. I'm sure Derry will deal with it well too.

its gas, either he isnt supporting Derry long or has a very short memory, he's leaving for 2 in a Row Champions with a hell of a lot more potential then Derry, oh and of course Rovers being the club playing in his hometown. Jim Mc as stated left the best team ever to grace this league, love the man, GOD, but if you want to bring insult into it, the same Derry team that eventually won the league on the back of Rovers demise, was effectively said Rovers team..... now thats an insult.

poster

26/12/2011, 11:28 AM

When what?! Derry fans were cheering him out the door. If you mean him being one of the best players in the league, he'd stroll into Sligo's squad or any other.

He's not one of the league's top players. Nowhere near it.

Charlie Darwin

26/12/2011, 11:30 AM

I thought he was one of the Rovers players who made the step up to European football very easily. I don't think he has good enough ball control or pace to be a top winger but I think he can do it at a level about Shamrock Rovers.

dong

26/12/2011, 12:25 PM

The whole hometown club thing is a total bluff. Sure Shams have no history there apart from the last three seasons that would hold any relevance to Kenny.
I think Shams will win the league by the amount of points that they should have last year if it wasnt for O Neill ie around ten.

Charlie Darwin

26/12/2011, 12:38 PM

Rovers have always been popular in Tallaght - it's one of the reasons the club decided to move there. Milltown is as close to Tallaght as Inchicore, which is why both Rovers and Pats have fanbases in the area.