View Full Version : O'Neill 'to quit' Shamrock Rovers
Dave_SRFC
26/12/2011, 2:21 PM
Wrong!
The whole hometown club thing is a total bluff. Sure Shams have no history there apart from the last three seasons that would hold any relevance to Kenny.
I think Shams will win the league by the amount of points that they should have last year if it wasnt for O Neill ie around ten.
I think it was a bluff to lighten the blow for any upset Derry fans.
They didn't want to say he was leaving for a bigger job with better prospects so went down the "hometown club" road.
Very happy with the appointment as mentioned before and particularly the manner and timeframe of it.
The whole hometown club thing is a total bluff. Sure Shams have no history there apart from the last three seasons that would hold any relevance to Kenny.
I would agree. SK has, down the years as a player and manager, never been a fan of SRFC. Glad he's on board myself but I'm sure the Derry chairman realises that he's lost his manager for a lot better reasons than 'hometown club'.
CiaranR
27/12/2011, 8:39 PM
Stephen Kenny was the obvious and best choice for Shamrock Rovers. It's an absolute travesty for Derry City.
Did you know? Since 1996/97 when Derry won the league title, without Stephen Kenny as manager Derry City have never finished in the top four. Conversely, in every full season that Kenny has been in charge, they have never finished outside a top four spot.
Here's an article on his departure from the perspective of a Derry City fan: http://sc1sports.com/kenny-departs-city-the-end-of-an-era/
marinobohs
28/12/2011, 11:51 AM
Stephen Kenny was the obvious and best choice for Shamrock Rovers. It's an absolute travesty for Derry City.
Did you know? Since 1996/97 when Derry won the league title, without Stephen Kenny as manager Derry City have never finished in the top four. Conversely, in every full season that Kenny has been in charge, they have never finished outside a top four spot.
Sweet Jesus, the revisionism by shams on here is incredible Now Kenny is a cross between Alex Ferguson and Jose Mourinho ! :rolleyes:
Despite large resources (first time at Derry - double contracts era) SK won nothing apart from the League Cup - hardly inspiring stuff. Good LOI manager/coach but nowhere near Fenlon or Cooke in my opinion
Emotionally very brittle (constant cry baby - literally) it will be interesting to see how he copes with the most demanding fans in Ireland, especially when he has a bad result or two. Also his "go to" game has always been counter attacking and while he does it very well I dont think it will be suitable to shams. Too many draws - especially at home - killed Derrys League challenge as they often lacked a "plan B" when teams sat off them (especially at the Brandywell). At Shams he will have to cope with most teams sitting back and settling for a point so he will need a more attack minded set up than at previous teams.
Good manager (in my opinion) but still a lot to prove.
...... He's not the messiah, he's just a naughty little sham :cool:
horton
28/12/2011, 12:58 PM
Stephen Kenny was the obvious and best choice for Shamrock Rovers. It's an absolute travesty for Derry City.
Did you know? Since 1996/97 when Derry won the league title, without Stephen Kenny as manager Derry City have never finished in the top four. Conversely, in every full season that Kenny has been in charge, they have never finished outside a top four spot.
Here's an article on his departure from the perspective of a Derry City fan: http://sc1sports.com/kenny-departs-city-the-end-of-an-era/
Would you happen to be the son of a certain former DCFC chief executive?
marinobohs
28/12/2011, 2:06 PM
Rovers have always been popular in Tallaght - it's one of the reasons the club decided to move there. Milltown is as close to Tallaght as Inchicore, which is why both Rovers and Pats have fanbases in the area.
Think most of us thought it was the "free ground" that swung it CD :D I have no doubt that there was support for shams in Tallaght prior to move to SDCC Stadium (there is in most areas of Dublin) but would have considered Tallaght traditionally more Pats territory to be honest.
Charlie Darwin
28/12/2011, 3:34 PM
Think most of us thought it was the "free ground" that swung it CD :D I have no doubt that there was support for shams in Tallaght prior to move to SDCC Stadium (there is in most areas of Dublin) but would have considered Tallaght traditionally more Pats territory to be honest.
I can only speak for my own family but we were all Rovers. Plenty of Pats fans around too. And the decision to move to Tallaght was made 15 years ago.
Despite large resources (first time at Derry - double contracts era) SK won nothing apart from the League Cup - hardly inspiring stuff.
Up against the Shels/Drogheda/Cork/Bohs financial eras..
horton
28/12/2011, 3:51 PM
Up against the Shels/Drogheda/Cork/Bohs financial eras..
So he should have no issues now that he's managing in Shams financial era? Here's to number 3 eh?
Not necessarily, but the balance is in his favour moreso than at any time.
CiaranR
28/12/2011, 4:57 PM
Sweet Jesus, the revisionism by shams on here is incredible Now Kenny is a cross between Alex Ferguson and Jose Mourinho ! :rolleyes:
Despite large resources (first time at Derry - double contracts era) SK won nothing apart from the League Cup - hardly inspiring stuff. Good LOI manager/coach but nowhere near Fenlon or Cooke in my opinion
You've completely ignored his time at Derry from 2004-2006 where he won 2 League Cups and an FAI Cup. In this period he also finished 2nd (twice) and in 2006 lost out on completing a domestic treble by virtue of goal difference. (If only Bohs could have held their bottle against Shels on the last game of the season that year:cool:)
I wouldn't live in Tallaght even if you threw in Georgia Salpa as my personal sex slave.
Sacrilege - I would live in Ulaan fckin Bator if Georgia Salpa was part of the deal.
To the Rovers fans and the board in general, what are the expectations from Kenny? i think he is in a bit of a no-win situation now. How can he surpass last season? Maybe the Rovers masses can readjust their expectations but... i doubt it.
I think he is a good manager but hasnt got the charisma or strength of character to manage Rovers or any other club where expectations have never been higher. I think it will end along the same lines as it did in Dalymount for Kenny. Him lying on the dressing room bench, crying.
placid casual
28/12/2011, 7:50 PM
Rovers fans expect SK(following on the tradition to acronym-ise the managers name) to win the league . thats pretty much it I'd wager.
A decent run in Europe would be good but not financially essentlal.
its years since we won the league cup , and with the new manager in place I'm assuming thats a foregone conclusion.
Charlie Darwin
28/12/2011, 9:53 PM
I don't think anyone expects to get into Europe - there's definitely more hope than last year - but his target is to retain the league. I think he'd have to fight for his job if he didn't win it.
O'Neill confirmed as NI manager
http://www.irishfa.com/news/item/6981/irish-fa-announce-new-international-manager/
To the Rovers fans and the board in general, what are the expectations from Kenny?
To win the next two Championships in a more entertaining manner than the last two
ger121
29/12/2011, 4:09 PM
I'm sure the target will be win the league and in Europe, reach the EL Playoff round. Anything else will be a bonus.
marinobohs
30/12/2011, 9:48 AM
You've completely ignored his time at Derry from 2004-2006 where he won 2 League Cups and an FAI Cup. In this period he also finished 2nd (twice) and in 2006 lost out on completing a domestic treble by virtue of goal difference. (If only Bohs could have held their bottle against Shels on the last game of the season that year:cool:)
Apols for forgetting the FAI Cup win (should have recalled they won as there was no spike in sales of Kleenex)
:o
Incidentally, SK won his only League title with Bohs, clinched (if memory serves me) with a win against Shels at Tolka. Dont think its Bohs bottle in doubt.
Understand your wish to portray shortcomings (well, 2nd place) as someone elses fault. When Bohs lost the Lge on goal difference 2 seasons back,it was not our inexplicable inability to beat a **** poor Galway side but all the other clubs fault for not beating shams. Really:rolleyes:
gormacha
30/12/2011, 11:27 AM
Apols for forgetting the FAI Cup win (should have recalled they won as there was no spike in sales of Kleenex)
I've seen this pop up a few times in relation to Kenny. Footballers and managers cry all the time! What's the big deal? Or is there one?
When Bohs lost the Lge on goal difference 2 seasons back,it was not our inexplicable inability to beat a **** poor Galway side but all the other clubs fault for not beating shams. Really:rolleyes:
Oh yes it was :cool2:
its gas, either he isnt supporting Derry long or has a very short memory, he's leaving for 2 in a Row Champions with a hell of a lot more potential then Derry, oh and of course Rovers being the club playing in his hometown. Jim Mc as stated left the best team ever to grace this league, love the man, GOD, but if you want to bring insult into it, the same Derry team that eventually won the league on the back of Rovers demise, was effectively said Rovers team..... now thats an insult.
Dewie can you not remember that when Jim Mc left rovers he didnt become Derry's manager, he was assitant to Noel King, and can you ever remember Shamrock Rovers EVER doing the TREBLE dont think so. Four players came from Rovers not a whole team. All these Rovers fans jumping on the KENNY BANDWAGON now memories must be short in tallaght as only a few months ago during the Zayed nonense yous were calling him every name under the sun now hes the best thing since sliced bread
Rasputin
30/12/2011, 2:29 PM
Oh theres a shock, shams fans and revisionism.
Redzer
31/12/2011, 8:26 AM
To win the next two Championships in a more entertaining manner than the last two
Like your signature says:)
can you ever remember Shamrock Rovers EVER doing the TREBLE dont think so.
You are 100% incorrect with that one!
In the 63/64 season, Rovers won the League, the FAI Cup and the Shield.
http://www.shamrockrovers.ie/history/honours
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leinster_Senior_Cup_(association_football)#1960s (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leinster_Senior_Cup_%28association_football%29#196 0s)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Ireland_Shield
63/64 also saw Rovers win the Leinster Senior Cup, so this was a quadruple season for us.
We also did the treble in the 31/32 season.
FYI the League Cup became the "3rd" trophy when it replaced the Shield competition in 73.
placid casual
31/12/2011, 2:13 PM
What Mario is trying to say, Flexy, is get back in your box.
What Mario is trying to say, Flexy, is get back in your box.
A good point well made :D
Rasputin
02/01/2012, 6:28 PM
Is the boycott of foot.ie officially over now for shams fans?
placid casual
02/01/2012, 7:26 PM
Do you have the memory of a goldfish?
Predator
02/01/2012, 7:35 PM
You are 100% incorrect with that one!
In the 63/64 season, Rovers won the League, the FAI Cup and the Shield.
http://www.shamrockrovers.ie/history/honours
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leinster_Senior_Cup_(association_football)#1960s (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leinster_Senior_Cup_%28association_football%29#196 0s)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Ireland_Shield
63/64 also saw Rovers win the Leinster Senior Cup, so this was a quadruple season for us.
We also did the treble in the 31/32 season.
FYI the League Cup became the "3rd" trophy when it replaced the Shield competition in 73.That almost sounds like a Liverpool fan. :)
It could be very difficult for Kenny. He'll have big egos to contend with down there.
It could be very difficult for Kenny.
You're right there mate, it's a big step up for him.
Predator
02/01/2012, 9:00 PM
You're right there mate, it's a big step up for him.
It's a step up - he's joining the league champions, the first Irish team to reach the group stages of a European competition - but not by much.
Let's just take the head to head results in the league from the most recent season.
DCFC 0-0 SRFC
SRFC 1-1 DCFC
DCFC 1-0 SRFC
SRFC 1-0 DCFC
DCFC P4 W1 D2 L1
SRFC P4 W1 D2 L1
Shamrock Rovers finished with 9 more points than Derry, 4 more than Sligo. Derry won silverware, as did Sligo. The top three finished with a cup. As much as fans like to think, in truth, there isn't a huge gulf there, which is one of the great things about the LOI.
Rasputin
03/01/2012, 1:58 PM
Do you have the memory of a goldfish?
So its over now is it?
osarusan
07/01/2012, 12:32 PM
Magilton appointed coach at Melbourne Victory.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-16454388
BonnieShels
07/01/2012, 1:34 PM
Magilton appointed coach at Melbourne Victory.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-16454388
Beat me to it.
http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/melbournevictory/news-display/Victory-sign-Magilton/44188
Wouldn't be familiar with the level of football in that league but interesting to see if he takes a chance on Pat Sullivan.
BonnieShels
08/01/2012, 11:06 PM
Without a doubt the level of football is shoite!
I lived there for the first season of the A-League. Could never bring myself to endure it in person. Watched it from my couch a few times though and it was pants. Glad for Jim though to have gotten a decent club.
Charlie Darwin
27/07/2014, 12:48 AM
Funny reading back on this thread, the hubris of Rovers' fans in terms of how great a club we were and how it was onwards and upwards after O'Neill, Sligo fans reckoning O'Neill staying on would be the best thing that could happen to their title aspirations. Now we're lumped with Croly. How things change.
ger121
27/07/2014, 11:00 AM
Ahhh, Agent Kenny and the Patsy Croly. Both missions a success!
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