Premier Division Play Off

[Martinho II]

Wasn't it because the interview with the Prez?

but he was in Terryland though??Im sure he stayed the whole game..

[OneForTheFuture]

It was Mario Rosenstock taking the michael?

[pineapple stu]

but he was in Terryland though??Im sure he stayed the whole game..
Yeah; wasn't he interviewed before the game, and then the interview shown on telly after?

[Charlie Darwin]

Congrats Mons. Commiserations Galway. You'll be back soon, hopefully.

[Mr Maroon]

why were Galway on the Late Late Mr Maroon?? By the way great talkin to you in the press box!!At least I know what you look like now!
It was good to meet you as well.


Wasn't it because the interview with the Prez?
That was on the 9 o'clock news.


It was Mario Rosenstock taking the michael?
Yes. He said a poem about GUFC as Michael D.

[BonnieShels]

Just about recovered from a ridiculous drunken night last night and only just got the result now.

Congrats to Mons. Commiserations to to Galway. A season in the FD to get yourselves sorted is what you need.

[OneForTheFuture]

Just about recovered from a ridiculous drunken night last night and only just got the result now.

Congrats to Mons. Commiserations to to Galway. A season in the FD to get yourselves sorted is what you need.

OK! But change back your mo' fo' avatar!

[4tothefloor]

Not necessarily. I think more people might come if we can win the odd match in the First than lose almost every match in the Premier.
I'd tend to agree which is why I asked. Nobody wants to support a hopeless case and from listening to the Galway fans on here yer not likely to have much of a budget next season. Instead of going down and starting the rejuvenation of the club right away, seems staying in the Premier would just be kicking the can down the road. A strange situation that will of course only become real if Bohs do implode

[Charlie Darwin]

I don't think there's a team in Ireland that would turn down a place in the Premier Division, whether it's Galway United or Raheny United, so you couldn't blame Galway if they did. The FAI should use some discretion if the situation arises because Limerick are clearly the next in line.

[gufct]

Cant turn down a prem place if we get a licence. Absolute madness if we did as the revenue from sponsorship and bigger crowds would be hugely significant. How will playing in front of one man and his dog improve our club. The only thing we had going for us in attracting good local players above Mervue & Salthill is that we were a Premier Team.

We as a club have learned more in the last year than we would learn in 10 years in the first. The elephant in the room is 3 clubs in Galway which means that over €500,000 will be taken out of soccer in Galway to run the clubs without a player being payed absolute madness.

[adamd164]

According to Roddy, he'll be sticking with the squad that earned Mons fourth place in the league anyway. Can't say fairer than that.

[Terry-Lander]

How will playing in front of one man and his dog improve our club. The only thing we had going for us in attracting good local players above Mervue & Salthill is that we were a Premier Team.

We as a club have learned more in the last year than we would learn in 10 years in the first. The elephant in the room is 3 clubs in Galway which means that over €500,000 will be taken out of soccer in Galway to run the clubs without a player being payed absolute madness.

A lot more than that folowed United when last in the first division to be fair.
How will losing every game in the Premier division improve our club? We have to cut our cloth to suit our measure. The nub of the problem is three teams in a city / county that can't support one and the fact that so much historical crap exists that the three clubs can't sit together and plan for the future betterment of football in the county. Now, for once, I'm not arguing with you gufct and will still be there in whatever league next year.

[BonnieShels]

Galway getting a Premier licence and Galway being in the Premier Division are 2 completely different things. Will ye cop that.

[geezer]

Galway getting a Premier licence and Galway being in the Premier Division are 2 completely different things. Will ye cop that.

are relegated, forget about the premier, its Jackman Park, Flancare, Lissywoolen, fahys Field and Drom for us if we are lucky and we secure licence. Thats the battle now, get licenced build a club first and any notions of premier are that ..notions. Work to be done lets focus on the job in hand

[mypost]

The nub of the problem is three teams in a city / county that can't support one and the fact that so much historical crap exists that the three clubs can't sit together and plan for the future betterment of football in the county.

Nothing to do with it.

Galway like every other team outside Dublin, always struggled to get crowds when they were not doing well. They always had a limited budget for players. Mervue and Salthill players are not Premier Division standard, and have just a handful of fans, but they're in the league on merit, and you can't deny them that. County Galway is a huge place, it should be able to sustain several clubs.

[Guitd]

Nothing to do with it.

Galway like every other team outside Dublin, always struggled to get crowds when they were not doing well. They always had a limited budget for players. Mervue and Salthill players are not Premier Division standard, and have just a handful of fans, but they're in the league on merit, and you can't deny them that. County Galway is a huge place, it should be able to sustain several clubs.

please dont talk s**** about something you obviously know nothing about

[geezer]

[QUOTE=mypost;1549735]Nothing to do with it.

Galway havent won a trophy since 1996

i dont know how we have 10 fans, Im sure real rovers heads also remember when they were at their lowest their was no one clapping them on the back but plenty sneering at the lunatics trying to turn their ship around. Its a lonely place saving clubs.

[BonnieShels]

are relegated, forget about the premier, its Jackman Park, Flancare, Lissywoolen, fahys Field and Drom for us if we are lucky and we secure licence. Thats the battle now, get licenced build a club first and any notions of premier are that ..notions. Work to be done lets focus on the job in hand

Completely with you on this. My point was that there was a lot of confusion surrounding the potential of GUFC being re-instated into the PD next season. Very confused ideas in here from some people.

[bullit]

Bonnie,will you go over to the FAI cup thread and let us know your feelings/opinion. Or maybe your're a bit tender right now :( ?

[geezer]

Completely with you on this. My point was that there was a lot of confusion surrounding the potential of GUFC being re-instated into the PD next season. Very confused ideas in here from some people.

Limerick will be in before us no matter what happened before. Getting fudged into a division has proved no good to my club, left it massively in debt with a shameful football infrastructure despite all the money that sloshed around.


Under licensing rules we have found a loophole, something that could hurt any club if it doesnt go unchecked. The biggest issue is "footballing debts" the interpretation of this seems to be strange, you would presume it means managers, coaching staff of course players, Technical staff, Physio etc to protect those in the game.

In our case we have the situation where a director (not a football director) has put his claim last year under "footballing debt" made a payment arrangement with himself and lodged it all under licencing under "football debts" with no back up but has it acknowledged from the club which was under the total control of the director who directed the licence officer that it was a valid "footballing debt" and its automatically accepted by the licence process. No appeals, no comeback no cross checking even for someone in such control. Now the LOI is notorious for having clubs being run by one man bands so this it seems is a danger to all the people at clubs like genuine football staff the very ones the process is supposed to protect

This could be a danger for all clubs if any ceo sticks in a claim and can hold everyone to ransom a year later. Does anyone here have experience of this.

[BonnieShels]

Bonnie,will you go over to the FAI cup thread and let us know your feelings/opinion. Or maybe your're a bit tender right now :( ?

Done.

Thankfully I can't post here from my phone otherwise Adam would have banned me.

A lot calmer now...

[BonnieShels]

Limerick will be in before us no matter what happened before. Getting fudged into a division does no club any favours.

I don't doubt that Limerick will be in before you.

What I would say though would be to delete your above post as that's an accusation and a half.

[Lim till i die]

County Galway is a huge place, it should be able to sustain several clubs.

Thinking the geographic size of an area is relevant. :bulgy:

Population of County Galway: 250,000
No. Of LoI clubs: 3

Population of County Dublin: 1,300,000
No. Of non state subsidised LoI clubs: 4

[mypost]

Clifden-Loughrea: 141 kilometres
Tuam-Gort: 67 kilometres

In Galway, people have 3 clubs to support, over a very wide area.

[Guitd]

Clifden-Loughrea: 141 kilometres
Tuam-Gort: 67 kilometres

In Galway, people have 3 clubs to support, over a very wide area.

terryland -mervue 2 kilometers /// terryland- drom 5 kilometers //// mervue -- drom 6 kilometers all within 6 kilometers very wide area allright

[nigel-harps1954]

Clifden-Loughrea: 141 kilometres
Tuam-Gort: 67 kilometres

In Galway, people have 3 clubs to support, over a very wide area.


Urban area of Tallaght alone has 71,000. Cop yourself on.

[Raheen]

terryland -mervue 2 kilometers /// terryland- drom 5 kilometers //// mervue -- drom 6 kilometers all within 6 kilometers very wide area allright

Exactly. Plus a rugby team now playing at the highest level in Europe which has sold over 3500 season tickets. Many of these tickets were purchased by fans who previously drifted to Terryland. United will be a hard sell to city-based sports fans next season, whatever the division, never mind in the county. Likewise, potential sponsorship revenues in the city are flowing into the Sportsground where Connacht rugby has finally got their marketing right. Plus every kid in the county wants a Connacht top for Xmas.

[Acornvilla]

Exactly. Plus a rugby team now playing at the highest level in Europe which has sold over 3500 season tickets. Many of these tickets were purchased by fans who previously drifted to Terryland. United will be a hard sell to city-based sports fans next season, whatever the division, never mind in the county. Likewise, potential sponsorship revenues in the city are flowing into the Sportsground where Connacht rugby has finally got their marketing right. Plus every kid in the county wants a Connacht top for Xmas.

At least galway and Limerick have something in common now, a bit hooring rugby team taking all the fans

[mypost]

Urban area of Tallaght alone has 71,000.

and?


Exactly. Plus a rugby team now playing at the highest level in Europe which has sold over 3500 season tickets. Many of these tickets were purchased by fans who previously drifted to Terryland. United will be a hard sell to city-based sports fans next season, whatever the division, never mind in the county. Likewise, potential sponsorship revenues in the city are flowing into the Sportsground where Connacht rugby has finally got their marketing right. Plus every kid in the county wants a Connacht top for Xmas.

Well nobody can go to games on Paddy's Day because there's too many Parades, and nobody can go on Easter Sunday because of Mass, and nobody can go on the second Tuesday of May because of the social night, and can't go on the last Monday in August as it clashes with the Rose of Tralee on RTE, and can't go on the first Friday in October because the Ballinasloe Horse Fair is on then, etc etc etc......

Pat Dolan wrote in the Star the other week, that if you can't sell football, there's something wrong with you. The whole world wants it after all. Galway is a huge place. They all want to play GAA, they all want to go to Rugby, and they should want to watch football as well. If they don't, well you can't blame Mervue and Salthill who earned their place in the LOI on the pitch, and therefore have as much right to be in the league as Galway.

[passerrby]

any sense you were talking (and there was very little) went out the window whern you quoted that pat dolan. why would you assume he has any knowledge on running a club.read him weekly and you will find out how little he knows about football.

[nigel-harps1954]

and?

And my point was just as valid as yours.

[mypost]

No it isn't. Galway don't play in Tallaght, except as an away team.

[eekers]

Exactly. Plus a rugby team now playing at the highest level in Europe which has sold over 3500 season tickets. Many of these tickets were purchased by fans who previously drifted to Terryland. United will be a hard sell to city-based sports fans next season, whatever the division, never mind in the county. Likewise, potential sponsorship revenues in the city are flowing into the Sportsground where Connacht rugby has finally got their marketing right. Plus every kid in the county wants a Connacht top for Xmas.

Glad to see people in Galway finally realise this now. Its a shame the club hoodwinked the FAI with their 'potential' 5 years.

[Lim till i die]

At least galway and Limerick have something in common now, a bit hooring rugby team taking all the fans

Connacht average attendance: 2-4000

Munsters average attendance (in Thomond): 14-18000

Let's not over egg the pudding, Connacht are tiny compared to Munster!!

[JC_GUFC]

Clifden-Loughrea: 141 kilometres
Tuam-Gort: 67 kilometres

In Galway, people have 3 clubs to support, over a very wide area.

Somone pointed you out to me at a game before and you looked a bit dim but you're really having a laugh with this.

By your logic if there was a team from the moon they'd be world beaters, excuse the pun, it's got a radius of over 1700k east-west and north-south!

The only problem is no-one fu**ing lives there!!

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Edit: Just in case you're touchy I didn't really think you looked a bit dim!

[mypost]

By your logic if there was a team from the moon they'd be world beaters, excuse the pun, it's got a radius of over 1700k east-west and north-south!

The only problem is no-one fu**ing lives there!!

Correct.

Meanwhile, back to discussing Galway.

[JC_GUFC]

Cant turn down a prem place if we get a licence. Absolute madness if we did as the revenue from sponsorship and bigger crowds would be hugely significant. How will playing in front of one man and his dog improve our club. The only thing we had going for us in attracting good local players above Mervue & Salthill is that we were a Premier Team.


I'm very surprised at this statement Tommy. How about the history of the club, the support the club gets, playing home games in Terryland rather than Fahy's Field or a field? Players were choosing to play First Division ahead of us last season anyway!

I honestly think going down will be better for us and the league in the long run.

If we had another season of getting hammered each week our crowds would very quickly drop to the 200 or 300 mark. In Division 1 we'll be lucky to break the 1000 mark for any game but we should still consistantly get in the region of 600 as at least we might win a game. Talk of "no away support" isn't really true either. Look at the likely teams in the league. Salthill, Mervue, Athlone, Longford, Limerick all within a stonesthrow of Galway - these clubs will all bring a handful of fans to the games and Limerick could well bring a couple of hundred as they'll be walking their way to the title. It's not as if Bray, Drogheda, Dundalk, UCD or Bohs (only coz they'll be shi**) would be selling out their away section.

Even looking at this season's First Division, with a proper pre-season, there's absolutely no reason we couldn't be challenging for a top 3 finish in the Division.

What you say about the 3-Galway clubs is spot on though - I raised this on our forum at the start of last season. There seriously needs to be some agreement reached - Salthill Devon, to me, appear to be based on the Home Farm kind of model of a club for developing youngsters in Galway. Even them having a Junior team seems a bit odd but wasting money to be the worst team in League of Ireland is crazy, though as someone else said both clubs earned their place in the LoI by right and the main current problems at Galway United are nothing to do with them.