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seanfhear
08/03/2021, 1:45 PM
You have to hand it to him, he has earned an incredible amount of money relative to what he has produced in return. Probably doesn't have a relegation pay cut in his contract either given that it was a free transfer and it's Newcastle we're talking about.

Relegation might not be the worst thing for him, he's not a Premier League standard player for me, despite 150 or so appearances to his name somewhat disproving that theory. I recall him being good for Derby in the Championship, so maybe he'd find his level and some form back in that division like Hourihane has.
I was just going to say something similar. Judging by his performances for us and even in the Premiership for awhile now it looks like he is a Championship Standard Player and if you sign Championship standard players there is every chance you will end up playing in the Championship.

As you said, fair dues to him he has been paid handsomely for what he has produced.

Colbert Report
09/03/2021, 2:31 AM
He's got three years left on his four year contract, and he'll be 32 when it ends. I think he made a good move to run down his contract and take the money on offer at Newcastle. If they get relegated there'll be pressure to play him or loan him out and cover a large portion of his wages. Either way he wins. I honestly don't understand why more players do this and why clubs are willing to pay any kind of a transfer fee for players at all. If I was in charge of a Premier League club, I'd simply sign out of contract players to save the transfer fee.

tetsujin1979
09/03/2021, 7:32 AM
Pretty much what Allardyce did at Bolton

DeLorean
09/03/2021, 1:16 PM
I was just going to say something similar. Judging by his performances for us and even in the Premiership for awhile now it looks like he is a Championship Standard Player and if you sign Championship standard players there is every chance you will end up playing in the Championship.

As you said, fair dues to him he has been paid handsomely for what he has produced.

And yet Burnley didn't really come close to relegation in the four seasons he was a regular there, they even managed two top half finishes and qualified for Europe.

seanfhear
09/03/2021, 1:33 PM
And yet Burnley didn't really come close to relegation in the four seasons he was a regular there, they even managed two top half finishes and qualified for Europe.
Perhaps they did not have enough other Championship Players ?

Colbert Report
10/03/2021, 2:32 AM
The funny thing is that Burnley really are just a bunch of Championship players, but somehow Sean Dyche is able to get them to play together like a cohesive unit.

DeLorean
10/03/2021, 6:47 AM
They've very much a PL quality goalkeeper and defence for a start.

Eirambler
10/03/2021, 4:49 PM
Yes, being rock solid at the back can help cover for other inadequacies in a team. As a lot of Ireland teams have shown over the decades. There is a ceiling to what you can achieve with that approach though - Burnley do get absolutely taken apart from time to time by the likes of Man City whereas other Premier League teams of a similar standing seem to match up to the top sides better.

Trequartista20
11/03/2021, 8:28 PM
Under Kenny Ireland attempt to play out from the back with great passivity and to to no obvious effect whatever. And with players ill-suited to doing so.

It's suicidal against teams who press high and means we're ineffectually passing the ball around in front of counterattacking teams. Really nonsensical and pointless.

Razors left peg
11/03/2021, 8:32 PM
Under Kenny Ireland attempt to play out from the back with great passivity and to to no obvious effect whatever. And with players ill-suited to doing so.

It's suicidal against teams who press high and means we're ineffectually passing the ball around in front of counterattacking teams. Really nonsensical and pointless.

So what do you suggest? Stick a big man (that we dont have) up front and just hoof from the back?

Eirambler
11/03/2021, 9:18 PM
There is a middle ground between the two. You don't have to either just pass it around aimlessly or hoof it long all day. In the autumn we retained possession well much of the time but we had no idea how to turn that into scoring chances. In these fixtures, particularly the Luxembourg and Qatar games, I'm looking for progress on that. Controlled possession by all means, but with an attacking threat as well and a willingness to counter attack or play a direct ball or a cross when the opportunity arises.

Trequartista20
12/03/2021, 4:44 PM
So what do you suggest? Stick a big man (that we dont have) up front and just hoof from the back?

Come on; that's strawman stuff, and not what anybody that I'm aware of on here has even vaguely suggested. But in a situation where Kenny has determined he wants to play out from the back we do need to have some sort of cohesive game-plan on how to move up the pitch to some sort of effect and look to start creating chances. I'm just not at all certain what we are trying to do. Do we go through a playmaker? No. Do we look to get crosses into the box? No. Are we attempting to utilise pace in attacking areas? No. Are we looking to play off a targetman? No. Are we making the best of set-pieces? Again, no.

We look vulnerable defensively and utterly toothless in attack.

The playing resources we have at our disposal are extremely limited, especially with the injuries we've sustained, and no-one's expecting miracles. But I would at least expect for Kenny makes us difficult to play against and hard to beat, and perhaps for us to score the occasional goal.

Charlie Darwin
13/03/2021, 12:59 AM
Under Kenny Ireland attempt to play out from the back with great passivity and to to no obvious effect whatever. And with players ill-suited to doing so.

It's suicidal against teams who press high and means we're ineffectually passing the ball around in front of counterattacking teams. Really nonsensical and pointless.
Kenny has his team play out from the back but he's hardly a fundamentalist. England are the only team we've played who actually pressed us and, surprise, we went more direct.

John83
19/08/2021, 10:35 AM
Unused sub in Newcastle's opening game of the EPL season: a 2-4 defeat to West Ham.

Demesne Lad
25/01/2022, 2:50 PM
Only one PL start this season; under Howe, just 10 mins on the pitch. TalkSport and Football League World suggesting today (Tues) that a move to Middlesborough is likely.

Trequartista20
25/01/2022, 3:13 PM
He and Robbie Brady show their caring, charitable side once more:

https://carlow-nationalist.ie/2022/01/25/jeff-hendrick-receives-heartfelt-thanks-for-helping-homeless-in-dublin/

Jeff's an important player for us and has done well of late under Kenny, so needs to be playing regularly really, whether that's at Boro or elsewhere.

A loan move back to Burnley until the end of the season would seem to make sense; they're short on numbers, and Dyche is obviously a fan.

JR89
25/01/2022, 3:18 PM
Don't think Newcastle are going to loan a player to relegation rival. If I was him I'd be wary of Boro as the ones aren't pleased with the link and don't rate him. He'd need to be on his A game from minute one or face the same abuse Doherty gets from the Spurs fans.

If Newcastle are paying all his wages for any loan could look towards Blackburn who might lose Joe Rothwell to Bournemouth.

Demesne Lad
31/01/2022, 7:15 PM
Now (8 pm, 31 Jan) reported to be signing for QPR (Football League World).

Trequartista20
12/07/2022, 12:21 PM
Moves to Reading on a season-ling loan deal.

https://www.readingfc.co.uk/news/2022/july/12/jeff-hendrick-joins-royals-on-season-long-loan/

SkStu
12/07/2022, 5:53 PM
Signs and then almost immediately scores the opening goal in their 4-0 win against Maidenhead.

Demesne Lad
14/01/2023, 2:33 PM
Scores at home v QPR today.

SkStu
14/01/2023, 2:56 PM
Scores at home v QPR today.

Twice!

Demesne Lad
14/01/2023, 3:16 PM
Twice!

Must have had his Weetabix!

elatedscum
05/02/2023, 4:53 AM
scored a sublime volley today. a thing of beauty

BOOMSHAKALAKA
05/02/2023, 8:36 AM
This is a good angle:

https://youtu.be/TA1cGe8O08k

He has been playing well lately and scoring a few goals.

JR89
01/05/2023, 2:33 PM
His season might be about to end in relegation. Rotherham's win today means the only team they can catch is Huddersfield who are three points ahead with a game in hand.

For Readings sake the game in hand is against Sheffield United who beat Preston 4-1 even with promotion secured so won't be easy for Huddersfield. Failure to seduce a point in that game and it comes down to Huddersfield vs Reading on the final day.

For Hendrick though he's still got one year left on his Newcastle contract so should pick himself up a loan somewhere next season in the championship.

seanfhear
01/05/2023, 3:32 PM
His season might be about to end in relegation. Rotherham's win today means the only team they can catch is Huddersfield who are three points ahead with a game in hand.

For Readings sake the game in hand is against Sheffield United who beat Preston 4-1 even with promotion secured so won't be easy for Huddersfield. Failure to seduce a point in that game and it comes down to Huddersfield vs Reading on the final day.

For Hendrick though he's still got one year left on his Newcastle contract so should pick himself up a loan somewhere next season in the championship.
" " seduce a point " " ~ ~ I suppose anything is worth a try ! !

Colbert Report
26/05/2023, 6:59 PM
Hendrick told to find a new club, despite having a year left on his Newcastle deal. What does this mean? Will they pay him out the rest of the money owed?

Eirambler
26/05/2023, 7:11 PM
They don't really have an alternative unless he voluntarily chooses to move on. If I was Jeff I'd do a Harry Arter and sit tight for the duration of the contract, he won't be seeing money like that coming into his account again.

We're starting to build a team of unwanted Premier League players at this point - Duffy and Clark at the back, Arter and Hendrick in midfield and Connolly up front. The five of them have been earning Premier League wages for the last year with only Duffy's token few minutes for Fulham to show in terms of actual playing time in the league. Kelleher hasn't seen a minute of action in the league either of course.

JR89
26/05/2023, 8:34 PM
Only has a year left on his contract and will likely find himself back at another bottom half championship team with Newcastle covering his wages.

Yard of Pace
28/05/2023, 1:08 AM
Only has a year left on his contract and will likely find himself back at another bottom half championship team with Newcastle covering his wages.

Just finished Jonathan Wilson's Two Brothers about Jack and Bobby Charlton.

I think we're mugs to be discussing wages or how well off some footballer might be when it comes to anyone who's been playing L1-PL for a goood number of years. We're mugs.

Demesne Lad
16/08/2023, 12:28 PM
Newcastle are keen to move Hendrick, Ryan Fraser and Isaac Hayden and on. They have one, two and three years respectively left on their contracts. Just paying them off would be costly and would also hurt Newcastle because of FFP rules.

Eddie Howe ends Ryan Fraser silence and explains why Newcastle haven't sold Hayden and Hendrick - Chronicle Live (https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/eddie-howe-ryan-fraser-hendrick-27421097)


Southampton are reportedly interested in Hayden, and Celtic in Fraser, but Hendrick (31) doesn't seem to be mentioned in the 'transfer rumours' columns.

Eirambler
16/08/2023, 12:44 PM
Thought they would have shipped him off to one of their Saudi Arabian teams by now. Seems his most likely destination and should probably spell the end of his international career.

Razors left peg
16/08/2023, 5:18 PM
I totally forgot he was still a Newcastle player

Demesne Lad
30/08/2023, 5:19 PM
Reportedly of interest to Sheffield Wednesday, Leeds, West Brom and Aberdeen, according to Football Insider, echoed by the Sheffield Star today.

zero
30/08/2023, 5:21 PM
Thought they would have shipped him off to one of their Saudi Arabian teams by now. Seems his most likely destination and should probably spell the end of his international career.

he's not good enough for the saudi league. league one or lower championship if he's lucky.

maybe mcclean could convince wrexham to take him on, he'd probably do "ok" at league two level.

Demesne Lad
30/08/2023, 6:17 PM
Reported (Football Insider, echoed by the Sheffield Star today) to be the subject of interest by Sheffield Wednesday, Leeds, West Brom and Aberdeen.

OwlsFan
30/08/2023, 6:44 PM
he's not good enough for the saudi league. league one or lower championship if he's lucky.

maybe mcclean could convince wrexham to take him on, he'd probably do "ok" at league two level.

Lower championship - he'll fit in well at Wednesday then ;{

Demesne Lad
01/09/2023, 3:52 PM
Owls' target Isaac Hayden seems to have been nabbed by Standard Liege, but "His teammate Jeff Hendrick, however looks likely to complete the deal to Sheffield Wednesday as medical tests commence."
https://therealefl.co.uk/2023/09/01/sheffield-wednesday-left-shocked-after-late-transfer-twist/

OwlsFan
03/09/2023, 3:52 PM
Signed on loan and then goes off on international duty, Hmmmm.

seanfhear
03/09/2023, 4:40 PM
Signed on loan and then goes off on international duty, Hmmmm.
You should be thanking the football gods that ye have signed an Irish international ~ Even on loan.

Crosby87
16/09/2023, 2:03 PM
Into the starting lineup today

Demesne Lad
15/11/2023, 12:50 PM
EFL Championship bottom club Sheffield Wednesday keen to offload Hendrick sooner rather than later, it seems.

Report: Newcastle loanee dubbed ‘big disappointment’ could see now his deal ended early in January | NUFC.news (https://nufc.news/report-newcastle-loanee-dubbed-big-disappointment-could-see-now-his-deal-ended-early-in-january)

Demesne Lad
29/11/2023, 9:10 PM
Came on as sub in the 79th minute in the home game against Championship leaders Leicester. Scored a 93rd minute equaliser to salvage a point for the bottom club.

Razors left peg
30/11/2023, 7:26 AM
Steve Bruce currently planning his Ireland resurgence around a born again Jeff

pineapple stu
29/05/2024, 12:45 PM
Released by Newcastle, in a major (not) shock (https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2024/0529/1451894-hendrick-among-newcastle-quintet-set-to-be-released/).

Got 14 minutes with Sheffield Wednesday on loan since New Year's; hasn't started a game since Sept. Injury didn't help, but still, he wasn't heavily involved there even when fit. Does he get a Championship move for next season? Still only 32 so in theory has a couple of seasons ahead of him yet.

Also mad to see the previous post from six months ago was a reference to our manager(less) situation. Bet RLP didn't imagine that would be as relevant six months later!

Eirambler
29/05/2024, 1:03 PM
I think it might be time for Jeff to go for the overseas pay day. Anywhere from the MLS to the A-League to Saudi might work with his CV of Premier League, international and finals tournament experience. I don't think there's a game for him in the top two divisions in England anymore sadly. Seems to have suffered a really steep decline in the last couple of years, but then maybe his talents were always a bit overstated to begin with.

Harry Arter will be another one looking for work this summer, Darren Randolph too, all three have made some great money in recent years in return for not playing. James McCarthy still has another year to go on his Celtic contract somehow.

Diggs246
29/05/2024, 1:22 PM
I think it might be time for Jeff to go for the overseas pay day. Anywhere from the MLS to the A-League to Saudi might work with his CV of Premier League, international and finals tournament experience. I don't think there's a game for him in the top two divisions in England anymore sadly. Seems to have suffered a really steep decline in the last couple of years, but then maybe his talents were always a bit overstated to begin with.

Harry Arter will be another one looking for work this summer, Darren Randolph too, all three have made some great money in recent years in return for not playing. James McCarthy still has another year to go on his Celtic contract somehow.

Jeff's wife is Scottish, he might be the right hit for Hubs as well

Predator
31/05/2024, 3:17 PM
I think Hendrick (like a few other Irish players over the years) took a wrong step in his career when he went to Newcastle, but he's still only 32 and seems to look after himself so you'd imagine he still has plenty to offer. Players don't get nearly 80 caps for their country if they don't have something about them. He just needs the right manager to believe in him and a bit of luck.

Colbert Report
31/05/2024, 3:46 PM
He made a fortune by signing for Newcastle. I wouldn't say that was a wrong step at all. Most of these guys are out to make money, and good on them for doing it. There's a reason James McCarthy is collecting a paycheck at Celtic, he could have moved on years ago if he was willing to terminate his deal and leave some money on the table.